Greg

Genuine question for KI, have you seen the reverse angle that clearly shows it is a dive?

They're both running, Calvert-Lewin steps across him/initiates contact/shields the ball/whatever you want to call it and Lovren continues running, knocking him over with a combination of his momentum, his body, and his hands. You can't just ignore him running into him. But he doesn't run into him. Calvert-Lewin runs into Lovren and then collapses on the floor as if shot by a sniper. Well agree to disagree, we obviously see it completely differently. We'll wait and see whether he gets done for diving. I don't think he'll got done but it's how a lot of players play for pens in the box these days, jump into the defender and then go down in a heat. It's become very common and needs to be stamped out.

They're both running, Calvert-Lewin steps across him/initiates contact/shields the ball/whatever you want to call it and Lovren continues running, knocking him over with a combination of his momentum, his body, and his hands. You can't just ignore him running into him. But he doesn't run into him. Calvert-Lewin runs into Lovren and then collapses on the floor as if shot by a sniper.

We've been doing business like that for a while apparently. The main problem is his unwillingness to pay the going rate for agents fees or wages.

All Lovren does is put his hands up as Calvert Lewin jumps into him. He doesn't shove him or bundle him over.

Nope. Just watched it again. The long view from behind in particular shows it is a clear dive, but I can understand why the referee gave it.

It was never a pen. Massive dive. If i put my arm on your back with no force at all, like a little pat on the back, would you fall over? Depends on whether you were also running towards me like Lovren was, Lovren's body knocks him over, not his hands. It's in the soft category, but still a definite pen, not a dive. Just watched it back, never a pen. Calvert Lewin actually steps into Lovren and away from the ball to then dive for the pen. Should get a ban.

I can understand why it was given mind, as it looked like a push, but it was a dive.

It was never a pen. Massive dive. If i put my arm on your back with no force at all, like a little pat on the back, would you fall over?

It was never a pen.

I think Jill was it once.

No reason we should really, they have a much more expensive squad, although Fat Sam and his fanboys on here will never admit it. Does he have any fanboys on here?

Yep, annoying when defenders do that, like Lejuene on Shane Long, absolute no need for it It was a dive.

Never a pen.

Could be a possibility with new ownership that isn't as strict with the 25 and under policy. To be fair we've kind of ditched that in recent years. We've signed Gamez, D.Murphy, Gayle & Lejeune who were all 25 or older at the time I believe. And Joselu, Ritchie, Diame, Clark etc.

We were on the attack and he correctly held back to fill in, he then failed to do what he needed to do.

Only one start, which is the only comparative measure really, as you don't bring on a new 'keeper for the last 5 minutes.

How old is he these days? 41

You can't compere the pressure of youth internationals with the Premier League.

Some people have short memories on Elliot. He's let in plenty similar or easier in his time here - Craig Noone in the FA Cup was quite similar.

That Benteke penalty.

What'd he say? Championship side, they need 4 or 5 Premier League quality players and Mike Ashley should accept the offer and sell up.

Is that even still a thing? Still listed as a sponsor / commercial partner on nufc.co.uk but not heard to them referred to as preferred Media partner for a long time.

First time I've agreed with something said by Phil Neville.