BlueStar

True or not, the situation in the Guardian article is basically our worst nightmare and something which is looking more and more likely with each passing day - potential buyers scared off when they see the books and drifting into the new season with no players, effectively no owner and effectively no manager.

That's alright, just gives us more drinking time and means I could go down on the Saturday rather than the Friday.

No he's a cunt. He's a clown http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51YKE36RRXL._SL500_AA280_.jpg

How is a low attendance for the Leeds game due to a protest going to be discerned from a low attendance for the Leeds game due to the fact we've been relegated, we haven't really got much to be excited about and it's dirty Leeds? How are people who weren't going to go anyway join this protest?

Total bullshit really. If 15,000 fans were to take to the pitch, who exactly is going to nick them and where will they take them? Probably be more a case of starting to arrest some people at random hoping people start going "Erm, don't want to be the next person nicked and banned" and disperse. Once some people start leaving, the numbers start going down, the chance you're going to be one of the ones nicked increases, more people start leaving. Or just filming people's faces for later banning orders. That's if you get 15,000 people on the pitch at once, presumably you'd need a few people to start off and give people the confidence to join in. If those first 10 or so get swiftly nicked then others are unlikely to follow. They can’t arrest people at random, well not without leaving themselves open to claims of victimisation. Not that it matters, it was a throw away suggestion. My point was really about whether we carry on waiting for Ashley to do what ever it is he‘s doing, or if we should try and influence events. Some think we’re powerless, but there’s tens of thousands of us and were not. Correct it would be thrown out of court if they take one approach with a small group. What "Some other people did it as well but the police weren't able to arrest them" is now a valid reason for getting a case thrown out of court? Do you think the police are completely helpless if more people commit a crime at one time than they have officers to cuff them? Oh, well, we've caught you breaking into this house but your mate ran away and we don't want to victimise you. On you go. Stewards and police targeting people at random when a large group of people are doing the same thing is exactly what was happening last season with the standing in level seven. This much is true. However, everyone would be on CCTV so the police would still be obliged to catch all the criminals. We couldn’t catch them in the act so we're not going to bother isn’t a valid reason for turning a blind eye. If there was a peaceful sit in common sense would probably prevail. It wouldn’t be in the public interest to prosecute 15,000 people for sitting on a football pitch. But we’ll never know because it’ll never happen. It's a sad indictment of our society that something as inane as sitting on football pitch without permission can be a crime. Yet one man can s*** all over a football club and it’s supporters with impunity. I wonder who owns the pitch? The stadium belongs to the club, but the land it’s built on is leased by the council. The police make examples out of people all the time. Who the stadium belongs to is irrelevant, it's not trespass against the owner of the pitch it's laws brought in against invading football pitches to stop knackers running onto the pitch all the time.

Total bullshit really. If 15,000 fans were to take to the pitch, who exactly is going to nick them and where will they take them? Probably be more a case of starting to arrest some people at random hoping people start going "Erm, don't want to be the next person nicked and banned" and disperse. Once some people start leaving, the numbers start going down, the chance you're going to be one of the ones nicked increases, more people start leaving. Or just filming people's faces for later banning orders. That's if you get 15,000 people on the pitch at once, presumably you'd need a few people to start off and give people the confidence to join in. If those first 10 or so get swiftly nicked then others are unlikely to follow. They can’t arrest people at random, well not without leaving themselves open to claims of victimisation. Not that it matters, it was a throw away suggestion. My point was really about whether we carry on waiting for Ashley to do what ever it is he‘s doing, or if we should try and influence events. Some think we’re powerless, but there’s tens of thousands of us and were not. Correct it would be thrown out of court if they take one approach with a small group. What "Some other people did it as well but the police weren't able to arrest them" is now a valid reason for getting a case thrown out of court? Do you think the police are completely helpless if more people commit a crime at one time than they have officers to cuff them? Oh, well, we've caught you breaking into this house but your mate ran away and we don't want to victimise you. On you go. Stewards and police targeting people at random when a large group of people are doing the same thing is exactly what was happening last season with the standing in level seven.

Total bullshit really. If 15,000 fans were to take to the pitch, who exactly is going to nick them and where will they take them? Probably be more a case of starting to arrest some people at random hoping people start going "Erm, don't want to be the next person nicked and banned" and disperse. Once some people start leaving, the numbers start going down, the chance you're going to be one of the ones nicked increases, more people start leaving. Or just filming people's faces for later banning orders. That's if you get 15,000 people on the pitch at once, presumably you'd need a few people to start off and give people the confidence to join in. If those first 10 or so get swiftly nicked then others are unlikely to follow.

Rangerrrrrrr! Good lad

Here we go. Get in Tayls

Can anyone on here ever imagine any toon fan they know in the entire world wanting to find an internet stream for a Sunderland friendly?

Well in your case you could threaten to stop licking his balls. Put this in bablefish and it came back as "Uuuh, I dunno I hadn't thought of that." Protest and get him to give into out demands! (Uh, what are our demands?) Stop licking Ashley's arse!!! PROTEST!! (Protest how?) Fine, do NOTHING then! Let the club drop the the confrence!!!

Set him a deadline to do what? Or else we'll what?

Firstly, we don't have the power to force Ashley's hand, least of all by going and standing on the pitch. Secondly, even if we do force his hand, force it into what? Say someone blows up his car or firebombs his house, that will result in him going "Ah, OK then. I'll appoint Shearer now and sell to group with the best offer?" No, it's more likely he goes, "Right, that's it, minimum bids accepted for players and the club, first person to give me £50m, be it Freddy, asset strippers or whatever can have it." Ashley may be a moron, but I imagine he's trying to get the biggest offer and the interested party willing and capable of paying to most is likey to be one of the strongest placed to take the club forward. Acting like apes and trying to get him to leave town by sundown will just result in the club being given to whoever he sees on his way to the city gates. Think about it man.

Something far more robust is required, two blokes with a banner isnt going to encourage Ashley to get on with it. If hes still in charge when we play Leeds an on-pitch sit in would be a good start. Its all very well knocking the OP, but at least theyre not content to sit around letting Ashley take the piss. NUFC is or club, and the time to reclaim it is long overdue. Causing Ashley as much grief as possible without breaking the law was the way forward nine months ago, and it remains the way forward now. An on-pitch sit in would be breaking the law, wouldn't it?

Can imagine getting a good buyer who is willing to invest in the club and the fans protesting because they dared appoint a proven manager rather than Shearer

More bothered about who our owners are than if we get Shearer. I'd hope that potential buyers would have the brains to look at other options as well as Al anyway.

Is that because your sister paper has been illegally hacking his phone again or because your journalists are making things up out of thin air again?

See Shearer's been named as one of the people whose phone was hacked by people working for the NotW, wonder if that's how the seven bells malarky came out.

He is apparently very confident that he will takeover. Well I wish he'd fucking hurry up.

This is like pissing through a stiffy, fucking get us SOLD for fucks sake.

Sounds like just the kind of stuff that happens when you're nine. They've probably heard some Malaysians are gonna buy the club, asked the only asian lad in the class if he knows anything about it and he's said "Aye, my Dad works with the guy who's gonna buy them" and gone along with it. The kid's probably Korean. Remember when a rumour went round that a lad in my class had been born in America and suddenly he was related to practically every WWF wrestler.

I'm gonna buy it on novelty value alone, I've got a pair of bright orange and yellow beach shorts it's gonna go a treat with.

.com are right about bouncing back being our best chance of not being stuck in the Championship indefinitely like, really can't fuck around wasting time.

Makes it sound very authoritative that it comes from an Asian news source, until you realise they've just read the Shields Gazette.

Man U fan's reaction on another board to the pic of Owen in their new shirt