BottledDog

Disappointing to see him go, though not much of a surprise sadly.

Thumbs up from me, reads fine.

Impossible to argue with. When you use emotional language like 'it took a good man with Newcastle United in his heart to expose the sham', seriously, what can I say. You have a very sure view of Ashley, that he is clearly 'lying, conniving, manipulating and wholly untrustworthy', but for me there is very little about his intentions or the events that led to where we find ourselves that is particularly clear and straightforward. Oh, and I think most of the defending of the guy is only in reaction to some of the over the top attacks, not in any sense of loyalty to the er... fat cockney bastard.

Did he tell you that? He doesn't need to, it is so obvious now. For clarity I am not saying his intention was to sell the club on for a profit a year or so later, the timing has obviously been forced on him or rather the situation has dictated the exit earlier than probably intended. But in general the aim was always to sell the club on for a profit. and that makes him evil because? Because to do that succesfully would mean that the he would need to leave the club in a better state than he found it? No wait, that doesn't sound too evil. Actually, hold on. This structured plan, to clear debts, to build up the scouting network, bring in academy directors and coaches, and invest in youth (that would only see any benefit in some 3 to 5 years) and in the meantime try and bring in further outside investment to compete in the transfer market in the short term, doesn't sound all that evil or 'out for a quick buck' thinking at all! WHAT THE DICKENS! And spitting the dummy out over a few protests mainly populated by bairns doesn't scream committed to me... It was not just bairns, it was supporter groups and fanzines threatening that as long as he stayed there would be active boycotts agains himself and the club, and that he was not welcome to go to matches and continue to have the pleasure of being an active supporter. You could certainly level that he was nieve in thinking that he would be able to always get to do that, but I think the backlash shocked him a fair bit. If his reason for investing in the club was simply to sit back and use the club to make a profit then the protests wouldn't have been half as successful in forcing him out. A hard nosed consortium wouldn't have taken a blind bit of notice. But that's by the by. The argument was over whether he was simply here to make a profit. My arguement was that that didn't matter one jot if true, as all that he was trying to put in place suggested that he was not here to asset strip and was not doing anything intentionally to harm the long term future of the club. The opposite in fact. That's not to say he was right for the club or hasn't royally fucked up in some of his decisions. He has. Fuck knows where we go from here.

Did he tell you that? He doesn't need to, it is so obvious now. For clarity I am not saying his intention was to sell the club on for a profit a year or so later, the timing has obviously been forced on him or rather the situation has dictated the exit earlier than probably intended. But in general the aim was always to sell the club on for a profit. and that makes him evil because? Because to do that succesfully would mean that the he would need to leave the club in a better state than he found it? No wait, that doesn't sound too evil. Actually, hold on. This structured plan, to clear debts, to build up the scouting network, bring in academy directors and coaches, and invest in youth (that would only see any benefit in some 3 to 5 years) and in the meantime try and bring in further outside investment to compete in the transfer market in the short term, doesn't sound all that evil or 'out for a quick buck' thinking at all! WHAT THE DICKENS!

I think they claim to represent the fans so the numbers of members is dwarfed by the number who go to games and rightly or wrongly, they probably carry that number around with them for now. Why don't you start your own supporters club then so you can complain about NUSC in the public arena, and keep supporting Ashley or whatever your views are? Because setting up anything that is likely to fall into the trap of thinking it represents the 'voice of the people' kinda disagrees with me. I'll stick to the policy that anyone who hands me one of their leaflets/rants will will simply be told to fuck of, thanks.

More threats against him. Classy. ...besides I just cannot see any way that hanging around for a bigger profit makes any sense, the longer this goes on his ability to negotiate a better deal for himself I suspect would go down not up (besides, he's setting deadlines for a start which doesn't suggest he's simply sitting back in the vain hope some megadeal may turn up for Christmas). Chill, I cant see how a 'hurry up and sell to the first bunch that come along' sentiment helps anyone.

As a 'minority shareholder' he had no choice other than to sell, no choice but to put his name to that statement? Give over.

So it was all a Keegan conspiracy to make millions then. Blimey.

Aye, the vocal stuff is done and dusted, but there's nothing like starving the club of funds to make them even less attractive to a future manager. Yay!

This isnt Ashleys appointment. As if he's ever heard of Joe Kinnear. Ashley phoned Kinnear personally. ..and hasn't even spoken to Wise about it. Ashley? Bullcrap. Where do you pull that from. Kinnear hasn't spoken to Wise, but then why should he?

This isnt Ashleys appointment. As if he's ever heard of Joe Kinnear. Ashley phoned Kinnear personally. To appoint him. Nothing more. After discussions, I'm sure Ashley has phoned every fucker on the list of applicants before he got round to Kinnear.

I'm not disgusted with the appointment, just shaking my head and laughing. Unbelievable. I agree with just how low have we sunk, but what were people expecting considering the situation we are in. Good luck to the bloke. Am 100% behind him, for what good it'll do.

His hand was forced. If he had said nothing he was fucked and the protests would have got worse. If he had said nothing publicly, he would have still had to come clean to any prospective manager so we would have ended up in the even worse a position because the protests would have put even more people off.

Shows the state we are in. Fair play to the bloke for being one of the few not to turn us down. Full support to the guy, and we'll see what the new lot are like in october. Keegan and Shearer to placate the fans though huh, what a joke this club has become. 8 months till the new owners are driven out?

Christ. What a miserable sod. Hope you fucking enjoy your winnings if it happens.

Good luck with that. Sounds like a plan someone drew up on a napkin. At least they have backing from Keegan. Good thinking on that extra £50 million Chris, you're going to need it. Forgive me, we are talking about investing in Newcastle United Football Club here right? Right?

That sounds far more plausible than a lot of the other theories we've heard. If this does turn out to be true, and KK's walkout leads to us being taken over by a wealthy individual/group who inject money and lead us to sustainable long term success, the 3rd coming could yet turn out to represent the most enduring part of Keegan's toon legacy. Saving the club from what though, what on earth was Ashley doing? It may not have gone to plan, but all I saw was at least an effort to see all the elements being put in place for long term stability and future growth within our means. I'm happy to be proved wrong though. If as Jackyboy has said, he was walking out to expose Ashley's plan, to save the club, then what the hell is he waiting for, expose the evil! All he has currently exposed us to is more uncertainty, and the gamble that someone a damn sight worse might replace him.

I'm not sure that's as certain as it was a couple of weeks ago. Exactly my thoughts. His walking away has put them in the shit as much as anyone and there must be a sense of betrayal or loss of trust from the older lads (just as there is amongst a number of the supporters), and who knows how the new players feel about him.

Hahahahaha! Freddy Shepherd was attacked for less put it that way by a large majority. Everything Ashley has done while owning Newcastle has failed, backfired or put us a step or two backwards. But hey, he loves the club... So much fucking so when someone lights a fire under his arse he sobs and spits the dummy out before fucking off around the globe demanding ridiculous sums for the club. In between making himself look an even bigger tit of course. Christ. You used to make some half decent posts, the sentimentality being somewhat endearing. Yet now, it is hard to describe just how painfully embarrassing you get sometimes. Chill the fuck out.

bah, only the 48th richest person in the world. He`s a pauper compared to Anil Ambani http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nasser_Al-Kharafi Fuck him then, who is with me for the first and bestest Ashley IN protest?

He said he was willing to subsidise up to £20 million a year. Not that now we'll ever get to find out if he would have or not.

And......? Ashley never said he did did he? All he said was that he was advised not to go. That may have been from colleagues, or iirc, he was told not to turn up or join the travelling support in statements made by the fucking fanzines themselves. Not a threat of course, as they never specifed what would happen if he did.

Your efforts are appreciated.

This There has been no sugestion Keegan wants to come back, the ticket thing would be a gimmick, making a scapegoat of Wise or anyone would be a horribly cowardly thing to do, and the idea of him just telling us 'what we want to hear' whether true or not just turns my stomach. I can't see how anything like that would help him or the club now, all it would do would just cut away at any respect he still maintains. While I was happy with him keeping out of the spotlight, I guess it was just not enough for most people, and all he needs now, as before, is simply better communication. Not to placate the fans. But just to keep them in the loop and feel part of the club again. Anything else will just be jumped upon with cynical abandon.