BottledDog

This guy. Fucking love this guy. :icon_salut:

His prudent spending isn't going to keep hold of our better players who have ambition, he needs to match the ambition of the players to keep hold of them if we're ever going to do anything. We're a club that has generations of fans who have not seen us win a trophy and it's his responsibility to prove that we can do something about that rather than just surviving. You're suggesting that under Ashley we are particularly more susceptible to losing our better players? Historically I'd be surprised if that was the case. We have used what he has deemed responsible (always arguable) over recent seasons, not lazily, not particularly conservatively, but pretty cannily. That in itself indicates a certain ambition.

I get the feeling that as long as the club doesn't cost him any further money, signings have nowt to do with Ashley. He has his man in place he trusts (fuck knows why) to do the job with what the club generates. If we don't buy players, it is either because we haven't the cash (which you'd struggle to believe), or Kinnear is at fault.

Prudent spending is, and he's done it remarkably well.

Dave Cusack.

Not sure whether you think he was a good player or not should have much a bearing on his opinion of Pardew (to add to a list of other past players who have said similar). Brian Deane is also a manager now so that should give him a bit of perspective on his choices you'd have thought. Nobody is trying to convince you that Pardew is the bollocks, but do you not think that the oft trotted out team talk line deserves some tempering?

Just watched it. Take it this is the bit with him telling Deane to take a management course being the best bit of advice he was given from a manager (but didn't take because he was pissed Pardew was releasing him ). Also worth noting was that when Deane was asked who gave the best team talks, he picked Pardew, saying that... "Very passionate, and got the players to believe in what he was telling them about". Take that team talk haterz.

If he badly wanted to play for NUFC, he would shut up, knuckle down and get on with his football rather than saying he'll look to leave if he doesn't get a game. If he's not willing to be 4th choice and fight to be 1st choice, then we are better off without. There's other players who are more valued than him would love to be playing more regular football who haven't came out to press with ultimatums. He agrees. “At Newcastle, I’ve had competition all my career,” he said. “I thrive on that, and it doesn’t bother me one bit. The manager makes a decision, and you’ve just got to accept that. “I need to keep working hard and knuckling down." “The thing I love doing is playing football. That’s what I want to do. “I felt good. I’ve just got to keep training, knuckle down and see what happens.” “The suspension was a big killer, but I’ve come back now,” said Taylor. “For six, seven or eight weeks now I’ve been ready and feeling good. That’s all I can do. I’m ready and fit for selection.” I'm not going to get angry at a player unless he starts demanding a start or throws in a transfer request. His injuries are frustrating but he's a very capable player that our squad desperately needs (remember the hand wringing that went on in the summer because we missed out on adding another CB in the summer).

He will remain a Newcastle player like you said Carroll would remain a Newcastle player Alan? "We are fortunate to have him, we are enjoying him while he is here and long may that continue." Ah, fair enough, should have just said that in the first place.

Yup, first names on the team-sheet.

That's the top and bottom of it like. There's no intention to fend off other clubs from buying our players & every intention to encourage them. Am I missing something here. In the last two transfer windows, we've done exactly that, despite or captain and Cabaye both trying to force our hands. And surely, after we came 5th it'd be a nonsense to say we didn't get offers for some of our players that would have given us a substantial return. Does that tally with a club that has 'every intention' to encourage player sales? I'd be staggered if Cabaye lasts another year at the club, but that will be down to the players desires more than our own. If that were the case I'd be pisses if we didn't try and drum up some competition for his signature.

I'm guessing this is our manager? It's a quote from Redknapp regarding Bale. ... or Possibly Rednose on Ronaldo, I forget.

Yup, Zaha for sure. Wish we could go after Tom Ince. Ince is exactly the kind of player we should be targeting, imo. He's not good enough (yet) to get meaningful playing time for one of the big spenders, though they're sure to come calling. Play for Newcastle, or languish on the bench for Chelsea/ManU/City etc. Not sure this line of arguement holds much water. It sounds sensible, but I'm not sure Ince would get considerably more game time with us than 'big' teams. In the same vein as Zaha (or Haidara, or Viana, or Bigi, or Sammy, or Rossi, or Vucic, or Amalfitano, or N'Zogbia, or any number of young players who we have expected good things from), we are a club that has good players, and a certain amount of expectation, but also considerable pressure. We tend not to throw players in and let them get on with it. We get edgy and stick with pros, simply because we don't have the confidence or number of games that bigger clubs have, or the lack of resources of smaller clubs. Not just Pardew, to a large extent, any of our past managers.

Good half, but no goal to show for it. Fuck Pardew.

That's not what I said, the side Pardew has had for last couple of years is much stronger than Norwich or the side Hughton had in the prem. That side Hughton had in the Premiership came 5th with considerably less spent on it by Pardew than Hughton has spent on his team. Cisse was prolific for Hughton. You what. Pardew still spent less on Hughtons squad than Hughton has spent on Norwich. Either that means (as was being argued) that Hughton had a great leg up in the championship because our team was significantly better than usual promotion contenders, or...

That's not what I said, the side Pardew has had for last couple of years is much stronger than Norwich or the side Hughton had in the prem. That side Hughton had in the Premiership came 5th with considerably less spent on it by Pardew than Hughton has spent on his team. Cisse was prolific for Hughton. You what.

That's not what I said, the side Pardew has had for last couple of years is much stronger than Norwich or the side Hughton had in the prem. That side Hughton had in the Premiership came 5th with considerably less spent on it by Pardew than Hughton has spent on his team.

Agreed. I can only assume obscenely drunken fingers produced that laughing smiley.

If you think it's going to happen, chances are, it will happen. You are part of the collective. Part of our conscience. Collaborator in creating the reality. Charlie Brown taught me that.

Like Jol, Clarke (and Hughton, Poyet, O'Driscoll and maybe Lambert). You'd still have him here over Pardew though, right?

as much as I liked rob lee as a footballer his personality often came over as smug and arrogant, both in the press and in person. He's a top bloke. Fucking cares about NUFC too, fwiw.

as much as I liked rob lee as a footballer his personality often came over as smug and arrogant, both in the press and in person. We've a poor squad, and poor manager. Fair enough. Enjoying the season so far, so something must be going right. /'dead' Kinnear must be working his voodoo. /the point about Owen is expected an so shit. What a cunt that horse fairy is. Jesus.

Yeh I think it will be. I'd push Jonas next to Tiote and have Anita adopt the creative role however... :lol: Anita the creative role? f*** is this? Nice contribution. Have a nice day. Should I have used trequartista or something? Nah he's saying Anita shouldn't play that high up.... he's the man you want in deep getting the ball and knitting it altogether he has no place playing behind the striker playing the final pass etc etc. Had on, out of Tiote, Jonas, and Anita, which one is potentially the more creative?

Profits may be ok but results still saw the share price drop 10%. Will have to be a Tesco Value Christmas for Ashley this year.

I can't imagine it is going to be any big gain in revenues though. Fair enough. Well, I'd agree with you there.