Slugsy

The usual ones stand out - Barca game, Man U 5-0, whipping Spurs, but one that probably wasn't the best but I still remember well is beating West Ham 3-0 in 1996 when we were top of the league - Ginola was on fire that night and we should have beaten them by about 10 - still remember singing 'we are top of the league'!!!

And Blatter goes on about Slavery! What about the opposite when you can't get rid of the rubbish and have to continue to pay gash players on big wages who couldn't score in a brothel with an mastercard!

If that's true about the number of signings then I am encouraged - I know its not a certainty and we may not get many but at least acknowledges the needs.

And what's wrong with accountants???

Could be either but I think its the finances - I was very suspiscious in January when we signed diddly and as each day goes on, I'm convinced we don't have a lot of money to spend - yes we bid for Modric, but who is to say that wasn't the majority of the transfer budget for the summer? That being said, I'm still not convinced about Wise et al - seemed a strange appointment at the time and so far nothing has changed my mind on that and each comment from Keegan makes me more dubious about the present regime - be it due to lack of cash or incompetence by the management board - as most have said, there is time to go but the lack of positivity coming from Keegan is worrying.

What a player, quick, skilful, intelligent, scores for fun, the lad has it all......

A ban coming up - excellent - midfield combo of Guthrie/Geremi and Butt - Man U will be trembling!

I just don't think Owen and Martins is a great combination, Carrol is very untested, Viduka is to injury prone and always half fit, Ameobi is cr*p and Smith, well I don't have to say anymore. We may have 6 strikers but I'm not exactly brimming with confidence.

We should have been looking for a striker anyway, Viduka is getting on, his injury record for Middlesborough and us is horrendous. Its absolutely ridiculous that we may have to rely on Andy Carrol at the start of the season, talk about inadequate squad!

He shouldn't be mention in the same breath as either of those tbh. give it 10 years, Taylor has more chance of being mentioned in same breath as JFK than Rio Ferdinand and Sergio Ramos Ok in 3 years we come back to this discussion and we will see who is right you do know that by 22 Ferdinand had already been called up to world cup 98 and euro 00. 2 years later he'd been bought twice to the sum of £48m. Look at Ramos, by 20 he was a regular for his country and his fairly big club. You're being a bit silly here, Taylor has time and time again been shown up by average strikers. If you said that in 3 years time, he'd be comparable to Aaron Hughes, you'd be a bit closer to the mark. p.s. Ramos looking mediocre at the Euro's??? He was bloody colossal all tournament Agree wholeheartedly with Tooj and Ronaldo on this one - Taylor aint in the same class. Needs a footballing brain to start with. taylor has the physical attributes to be a good defenfer, a very good one...if he gets a season or two playing in a stable defence with a leader next to him he'll improve look at how unsettled the defence, team, club and playing staff in general have been since he broke through some people need to give the guy a break - seen people on here talking about selling him FFS!! diabolical Hold on - I remember another recent player with the physical attributes, that needed time, stable defence and someone good beside him and had bags of potential...hmm, that one worked out well. I'm not saying sell him - he has good physical attributes but lacks composure and footballing intelligence that the really top class defenders have such as Ferdinand, Woodgate etc. I don't think he will ever have that so will never be really top class - competent and good enough for us at the moment but not in the class of Ferdinand or Ramos whom was mentioned.

He shouldn't be mention in the same breath as either of those tbh. give it 10 years, Taylor has more chance of being mentioned in same breath as JFK than Rio Ferdinand and Sergio Ramos Ok in 3 years we come back to this discussion and we will see who is right you do know that by 22 Ferdinand had already been called up to world cup 98 and euro 00. 2 years later he'd been bought twice to the sum of £48m. Look at Ramos, by 20 he was a regular for his country and his fairly big club. You're being a bit silly here, Taylor has time and time again been shown up by average strikers. If you said that in 3 years time, he'd be comparable to Aaron Hughes, you'd be a bit closer to the mark. p.s. Ramos looking mediocre at the Euro's??? He was bloody colossal all tournament Agree wholeheartedly with Tooj and Ronaldo on this one - Taylor aint in the same class. Needs a footballing brain to start with.

Couldn't agree more, the lack fo quality we have in midfield is alarming and we are laughing a Spurs???

Gutted if Arshavin joins Spurs, hes the one player out of the lot of their signings I really thought would improve us.

It would be great if we nicked Arshavin off them in a similar manner to what happened with Modric. I'll wake up now!

top class world established stars?! Come on, before the start of last season not a great number of people even knew of Modric or Arshavin. I'm not saying they weren't good players but they were a long way off world established stars and neither of them are 18 or 19 and bursting through. Yes, they have both had quality seasons and i think both have the potential to make big impacts. What i wouldn't be comfortable with is us replacing 5 of our 6 front players (if Berbatov goes) from last season. They would be playing Bent or A N Other up top who would be like a new player as Bent played so little last year and never on his own, then Jenas would be the only other player who was there last year. It will indeed be 'lucking out' if all of the new players, dropped in a team together, gelled quickly and formed a cohesive attacking unit whilst simultaneously learning to defend, which none of those players could do last season. Your top 4 breaking theorem is the one that failed us under Souness. Yes, I would like us to buy a few big name players, but i'd like to see them integrated and combined with the current squad and then built upon in January, not just completely replacing and stripping out our current team, which is what it looks like Spurs are doing. Put another way, would you be happy if we sold Owen, Martins and Viduka and signed Arshavin and Modric, leaving Shola to play up front on his own? I know that Bent is better than Shola, but it's equivalent 4th choice striker from January (Defoe, Berbatov and Keane ahead). I certianly wouldn't be. To be honest, I don't know where to start with that response. If Arshavin and Modric were not established stars, particulalry after the Euros then I don't know what qualifies - I'm not saying they are a Messi or Ronaldo but top class in their respective leagues and international teams, yes. I agree that bringing in a number of players in one go definetely brings a risk they will not gel but since they were available and in my eyes improve the squad, I would have bought them and if some needed more time than others, so be it - Ramos is a damn good coach and will know what he is doing there - though on reflection see my point below about Modric and Arshavin. The failure of Souness - I fail to see the relevance given the proven history of his incompetence as a manager full stop. I don't think the comparision with the 4 strikers is fair, Bent and Defoe vied for that 3rd berth. Additionally, why would we have to do what Spurs have done and can Arshavin not play in the attacking midfield role so the need to sell 3 strikers would not apply here? I actually would only want one of the two between Modric and Arshavin (probably Arshavin if pushed) given our current squad but the fact that Spurs are actually going out and getting them makes me envious. So, what you're saying is you would like us to have bought the players Spurs have but not let any of our best players go? No s***... We'd all have liked that... You've not actually addressed the point i was making, which was i wouldn't be happy for us to have shipped out our best players and replaced them with players, some of whom have no experience in the league. Top class in their relative leagues? Russia and Croatia? Not exactly what i would deem the best league. Yes, they can only do the best where they are but that's my point about them being relatively unproven, hence being a risk (see teams signing players from Senegal and the likes following successful tournaments). Jonas and (hopefully) Collocini have been playing rather well in the Spanish league, which gives me more optimism of them performing week in week out in the Premiership. Obviously not always the case (see: luque) but i think it gives a slightly more revealing insight. Agreed, the Souness thing does fall flat because he was a s*** manager, but my point was that i'm happy IF we're now being sensible and gradually building on what we have rather than throwing cash willy nilly and changing our whole squad around. I bet it's very exciting being a Spurs fan now and not so exciting being an Everton or Arsenal fan, but those teams have had results through gradually building, adding to their youth set up and making a team, rather than continuously chopping and changing players and manager as Spurs and we previously have. I'm just saying i'm actually more content now, if we're making the effort to be more stable and build gradually. I won't be able to tell you if that's the case or whether we are just being useless / cheap until August 31st. Cop out i know. Right, missed the point slightly - would I like to have shipped say Oba, Owen and potentially Viduka to get in Modric and Arshavin? Well put it that way, probably not and in theory I agree wholeheartedly with the building gradually. I still think we are building gradually with unproven players of potentially a lesser quality than Spurs and despite them playing in poorer leagues, Modric and Arshavin have proven themsleves in Europe and internationally. I would be happier if were at least in for some of these types of players, particularly in the area of creativity. Granted, your point is valid and thus buying 4 or 5 of them at one time may not be sensible. (Sometimes it takes a little while for it to sink in )

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top class world established stars?! Come on, before the start of last season not a great number of people even knew of Modric or Arshavin. I'm not saying they weren't good players but they were a long way off world established stars and neither of them are 18 or 19 and bursting through. Yes, they have both had quality seasons and i think both have the potential to make big impacts. What i wouldn't be comfortable with is us replacing 5 of our 6 front players (if Berbatov goes) from last season. They would be playing Bent or A N Other up top who would be like a new player as Bent played so little last year and never on his own, then Jenas would be the only other player who was there last year. It will indeed be 'lucking out' if all of the new players, dropped in a team together, gelled quickly and formed a cohesive attacking unit whilst simultaneously learning to defend, which none of those players could do last season. Your top 4 breaking theorem is the one that failed us under Souness. Yes, I would like us to buy a few big name players, but i'd like to see them integrated and combined with the current squad and then built upon in January, not just completely replacing and stripping out our current team, which is what it looks like Spurs are doing. Put another way, would you be happy if we sold Owen, Martins and Viduka and signed Arshavin and Modric, leaving Shola to play up front on his own? I know that Bent is better than Shola, but it's equivalent 4th choice striker from January (Defoe, Berbatov and Keane ahead). I certianly wouldn't be. To be honest, I don't know where to start with that response. If Arshavin and Modric were not established stars, particulalry after the Euros then I don't know what qualifies - I'm not saying they are a Messi or Ronaldo but top class in their respective leagues and international teams, yes. I agree that bringing in a number of players in one go definetely brings a risk they will not gel but since they were available and in my eyes improve the squad, I would have bought them and if some needed more time than others, so be it - Ramos is a damn good coach and will know what he is doing there - though on reflection see my point below about Modric and Arshavin. The failure of Souness - I fail to see the relevance given the proven history of his incompetence as a manager full stop. I don't think the comparision with the 4 strikers is fair, Bent and Defoe vied for that 3rd berth. Additionally, why would we have to do what Spurs have done and can Arshavin not play in the attacking midfield role so the need to sell 3 strikers would not apply here? I actually would only want one of the two between Modric and Arshavin (probably Arshavin if pushed) given our current squad but the fact that Spurs are actually going out and getting them makes me envious.

I'd agree with that, plus Kaboul and that other bloke (Tanio?) make up some solid signings for them.

There is time to go but I'd like to have signed the players that Spurs have signed, make no mistake I am jealous of those signings and if they get Arshavin, I'll be green. Lack of premiership experience is a lame reason not to want them or slag these signings - they are riskier but the rewards are massive and its not like the players they are signing are 'unknown' They are all top class, world established players. They have paid top dollar but that is the only way a team outside of the top 4 will ever break into the upper regions of this league. We have signed two players with a distinct lack of premiership experience, another on the way potentially so there is just as big a chance that we will 'luck out' as well but we don't seem to be mentioning that. I hate Spurs but I think we should be bricking it more than them at this moment.

I know he did a lot more and is a better player but I can't get out of my head that miss and the feeble effort he had in one of the games in the Euros, he looked worse than Shola in that game.

i honestly don't see the fuss is about for bentley, the only thing i remember last season he scored twice against us good player but not worth over 15 million imo, he needs to score more goals for that Its a fair point and I admit they probably are overpaying, but it seems that is the general theme for this transfer window, good players are at a premium and to improve a squad it is taking mucho cash - even Fulham are at it (though questin whether they are good players ), so are Arsenal (£11m odd for Nasri). I like Bentley as a player and he is better than what we have got, but concede he is over priced.

Bentley and Arshavin are two players we should have been bidding for, putting aside my dislike for spurs, if they come off, they will be two very good signings, add that to Modric and they are teaching us a lesson on the transfer front.

Another good signing for them if they pull it off.