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Unless they pull a 'big rabbit' out of the hat this fiasco is an abject failure of reason, common sense and sorely lacks any clear judgement. It smacks of a child who can't wait till christmas day to open his presents. And if they bring in the new manager who then spends £20 to £30 million on top quality players and drives us up the league (say 8th) putting us in a far better position to attract further players in the summer? Will you still consider it a failure then? Yes. But waiting until the end of the season to sack Allardyce (when we'd no doubt finish between 13th and 15th) would be a success?? I'm having to accept a lot of assumptions on your part here. Well obviously the first assumpion has to be accepted as part of my question. The second, well we're 11th after by far the easiest half of the season, now comes the much more difficult half..

Unless they pull a 'big rabbit' out of the hat this fiasco is an abject failure of reason, common sense and sorely lacks any clear judgement. It smacks of a child who can't wait till christmas day to open his presents. And if they bring in the new manager who then spends £20 to £30 million on top quality players and drives us up the league (say 8th) putting us in a far better position to attract further players in the summer? Will you still consider it a failure then? Yes. But waiting until the end of the season to sack Allardyce (when we'd no doubt finish between 13th and 15th) would be a success?? How can being in a much worse position be considered success and being in a much better position failure?

Unless they pull a 'big rabbit' out of the hat this fiasco is an abject failure of reason, common sense and sorely lacks any clear judgement. It smacks of a child who can't wait till christmas day to open his presents. And if they bring in the new manager who then spends £20 to £30 million on top quality players and drives us up the league (say 8th) putting us in a far better position to attract further players in the summer? Will you still consider it a failure then?

someone has been saying lately how jealous they are of Evertons superior last decade to ours mackems.gif So he should be happy with Moyes, maybe he will blow his socks off. I think it was fredbob, but can't be bothered to look Which mental case with no memory was that?

That sounds unlikely, what did he say?

I wonder when Martin Jol (the NO poster) will turn up to tell us who our new manager is going to be. No doubt Spurs ITK's already know since they seem to know everything Kemsley knows and he's Ashleys mate

Stop talking s***, ok man? Well I am just passing on what I got told, up to you if you think its crap. Guess if its true it would come out eventually. I just think its s*** because you don't sack a manager in order to replace him with a man you haven't even sounded out for the job..

"not looking abroad" And that quote comes from?.. You? It comes from nearly every news source who reports "sources from within the club are saying..." Sorry, should have said that I'm not 110% sure that it's true No problem I just assume that when Dr Venkman said he hasn't seen a quote to back it up he meant a quote from a real person, rather then a "source close to" which can easily be made up with no repercussions.

The OP is right IMO. Newcastle fans are impatient or even worse delusional because they aren't happy watching horrendous Football week after week and seeing there team 11th in the league after the easiest start to a season in living memory. But Chelsea fans are perfectly within there rights to act exactly the same towards there manager who has won his last 4 or 5 games and has the team third in the league and 6 poins off the top. Why?! Nobody mentioned a thing about Chelsea fans screaming "you don't know what you're doing" at Grant. But we do it and its all over the papers, its hypocrisy, the kind of thing I've come to expect from the bunch of arseholes who call themselves Britain's media.

First Division/Premier League: 1954–55, 2004–05, 2005–06 FA Cup:1970, 1997, 2000, 2007 League Cup: 1965, 1998, 2005, 2007 FA Charity Shield/Community Shield: 1955, 2000, 2005 UEFA Cup Winners' Cup: 1971, 1998 European Super Cup: 1998 Big deal, are you saying that unless a team has won something recently the fans have no right to expect anything better in the future ? The point being how much success they've had recently. It's not unreasonable for Chelsea fans to expect to be challenging for the title based on recent history. It's also not unreasonable for us to expect improvement or be challenging for the title in several years time either. Those are acceptable expectations. But that's not the same as the vocal group of fans who expect any manager to turn a team that hasn't won anything for so long into a team that's challenging overnight. That is an unreasonable expectation and that's where the press are right. What?!, who expected that?!! Nobody, the press pretend people expect that kind of thing in order to ridicule Newcastle fans, frankly I'm ashamed a so called fan would buy into it..

Stop talking shit, ok man?

"not looking abroad" And that quote comes from?.. You?

But Shearer isn't experienced nor do I think he'd be confident by himself, which is surely the whole point of the idea of Keegan as a director of Football.

Why would Ashley need to "go through the proper channels" for Venables? He isn't currently in a job is he, so I wouldn't bother with that wager if I were you.

Unless Mort has his socks blown off by the idea of some mediocre English manager that story now apears to have been confirmed as utter s***. Well, thats the things, its neither been confirmed true or false yet, and won't be until a new manager is appointed. As you say, a mediocre British manager wouldn't blow any fuckers socks off. But it has been confirmed, unless you think the club are lying about the manager they want not being foreign. What would they have to gain from that?

Unless Mort has his socks blown off by the idea of some mediocre English manager that story now apears to have been confirmed as utter shit.

Shocked, confused, happy-ish, shocked, depressed. All within the space of an hour or so from hearing Allardyce had been sacked to hearing the manager they want to take over is British.. What I don't understand is why have they even mentioned that they won't be appointing a foreign manager?? Is that supposed to be a good thing or something "oh thank god we won't have one of those horrible foreigners, well done Mr Ashley". This smacks of the kind of narrow minded crap we got from fat freddy.

"Shearer hasn't been aproached, we know who we want and will go through the proper channels to get him. We'll take our time, we're not looking for a foriegn coach" Oh for f*** sake!!! I give up with the club now, who the fuck is worth getting who's English

If someone tells me they're 6 foot tall and I can see they're 5 foot tall I'll believe my own eyes Especially when everyone else seems to see the same as me. I think he was just getting sick of the whole injury/fitness thing being talked about (which is understandable considering the nightmare he's had with it for the last few years). But no matter what he says its clear as day to me that whenever Owen comes back from an injury he looks poor until he's played a few full games. Which is why I never like to see him playing for us in any important game until he's had a few full reserve games behind him (perhaps another reason for him to deny the whole thing).

If Owen ever actually gets fit then judge him. Its pointless looking at him when he's unfit and saying "he's slow and immobile or any other bollocks. Anyone with even half a clue knows he needs 4 or 5 full games before he's properly fit and when he isn't properly fit he's nowhere near the same player. That's why he should have been playing reserve games IMO.

Diarra is a ready made replacement for Emre?.. in which alternate reality?

He let go of David Bentley, for a pretty small sum as well as far as I remember. It all comes down to keeping players happy, like Bentley, Diarra obviously isn't happy with being thought of as one for the future and wants regular Football now.

We can get 3 players for the best part of £50m as Souey proved. That was years ago, we were a champions league chasing side, in the UEFA cup. We could then, we can't now. What? We'd finished 14th in the Premiership the season before we signed those players and we weren't in Europe in any form. We're a premiership side, that's enough to attract big players if you're willing to spend the cash. Of course it also doesn't hurt that we've at least been in Europe plenty of times unlike most of the rest of the Premiership..

One player didn't work out so no other can?.. fantastic logic, well done.. Anyway O'Brien was considered promising because we heard he had great pace, I don't remember anyone thinking he looked like a good player after actually seeing him play. I remember thinking he looked like he could run very fast without the ball, but had little ball control and couldn't cross.

They just want a different manager, someone who won't be incredibly negative, who won't play his favourite players no matter what and out of position to boot. All they want is a manager who can show that progress is being made. Of course ask a fan who there suggestion for manager is you'll get some of them mentioning Shearer, Keegan ect, as well as plenty mentioning Mourinho and a plethora of others. But the overiding fact is the fans don't want Allardyce sacked because they want any manager in particular to replace him, they want him sacked because they think he's shit!