Northern Monkey

O Wrong. Roeder has fucked up royally, as anyone who thought about it at the time knew he would.

And i quote: "He is a bit of a hot-head, and although not to be an excuse, he may say things that he doesn't really mean. It's a shame to see a player like him be involved in rascism charges" Well done, on finding the stupidest forum on the net. I assume Gasuso lives there now, telling them all how he saw his close friends George Best, Pele, and Jackie Milburn at the airport last week. "he may say things he doesn't mean" hahahahahaha Yeah, this morning, i had no change for the Tunnel, and i just burst out with "you fucking nigger" randomly. See, it can happen.

Yup, which ain't what we're after that. We got that when we got Gooch, who we'll no doubt sign on a permanent, presuming his performances continue at an average-to-decent level. We want a partner for Taylor. Bramble out, someone in. Ben Haim on a free is my preferred player anyway, although doubtful. Why go spending £5m on Anton Ferdinand or £7m on Curtis Davies, when we can have someone a lot more experienced and a lot more proven for nowt? Same goes for Distin aswell. Taylor --- Ben Haim Onyewu --- Ramage Would do me for next season tbh. Huntington and Edgar there aswell don't forget. Each of whom are far more worth keeping than Bramble, imo. Bramble is million times better than Ramage... At being a fat liability, yes. He's just as good as Ramage at meing a general liabilty. Ramage is better at looking like, but it being, a Scottish liability. They both havr their strengths, see? But they are both Championship. Ramage's mistakes are far worse than Bramble's...Brambles has actually played great in some occasions...Ramage is NOT a defender, hell no he isn't even a footballer to begin with... Brambel has almost entirely played well against utter s**** (ref our recent UEFA outings) and CRAP against real teams. And if you don't think Ramage has one at least that, then you haven't been watching. NEITHER of them are good enough. I really don't understand why newcastle fans insist on doing the "i hate X so Y must be good enough". Its a load of s****. They are both poor, and neither should be played if we can help it. real teams...like juve and inter? there are many on this board who waste no time in having a go at bramble,but even they would step back from placing ramage in front of him...the old norhtern monkey "hate glasses" again. Wondered how long you'd take. Bramble has never played WELL against the teams you mentioned, but well done for remembering teams we've played against. You think Bramble is good enough for: a) NUFC or b) The Premiership? Well, if you do, you are wrong, but no doubt you have a really good excuse for why he has been an absolute fucking disgrace for years. As for Ramage, he's no better overall, but has fewer problems against bigger clubs (and there are many of them). But NEITHER should be playing for us. My main conclusion is that i'd rather play Ramage in the Prem, as Bramble has let himself down more on a pro-rata basis than our wrong-faced Peter boy. But given a real choice, i'd play neither. They're boith fucking well below us, even the pathetic Roeder mid-table us.

That was probably the game I've enjoyed the most, the whole ground was singing for Andy Cole while bouncing up and down for what seemed like hours. The Wembley Semi was good, I went ape shit when Rob Lee scored and ended up right at the front, I have no idea how I cleared the seats without touching any. After the Leicester game, we were stood singing on stools, tables, all sorts, in the 3 Bulls for long, lomgh after they stopped serving ale and turned the lights off.

its a "top".

Yup, which ain't what we're after that. We got that when we got Gooch, who we'll no doubt sign on a permanent, presuming his performances continue at an average-to-decent level. We want a partner for Taylor. Bramble out, someone in. Ben Haim on a free is my preferred player anyway, although doubtful. Why go spending £5m on Anton Ferdinand or £7m on Curtis Davies, when we can have someone a lot more experienced and a lot more proven for nowt? Same goes for Distin aswell. Taylor --- Ben Haim Onyewu --- Ramage Would do me for next season tbh. Huntington and Edgar there aswell don't forget. Each of whom are far more worth keeping than Bramble, imo. Bramble is million times better than Ramage... At being a fat liability, yes. He's just as good as Ramage at meing a general liabilty. Ramage is better at looking like, but it being, a Scottish liability. They both havr their strengths, see? But they are both Championship. Ramage's mistakes are far worse than Bramble's...Brambles has actually played great in some occasions...Ramage is NOT a defender, hell no he isn't even a footballer to begin with... Brambel has almost entirely played well against utter s**** (ref our recent UEFA outings) and CRAP against real teams. And if you don't think Ramage has one at least that, then you haven't been watching. NEITHER of them are good enough. I really don't understand why newcastle fans insist on doing the "i hate X so Y must be good enough". Its a load of s****. They are both poor, and neither should be played if we can help it. I remember probably only one game that Ramage played better than my expectations but that won't be hard as my expectations of him are very low if not existant...I honestly think Bramble has improved in the last 2 years and is doing better and he is good enough as a backup if we happen to sign better defenders... Improved in the past 2 years? i really wish he had. If we ever have to play him, for any reason, at any point, it'd be a shame, because he simply is NOT a premiership defender. But hey, we have polenty of not-good-enough players, so why not.

Yup, which ain't what we're after that. We got that when we got Gooch, who we'll no doubt sign on a permanent, presuming his performances continue at an average-to-decent level. We want a partner for Taylor. Bramble out, someone in. Ben Haim on a free is my preferred player anyway, although doubtful. Why go spending £5m on Anton Ferdinand or £7m on Curtis Davies, when we can have someone a lot more experienced and a lot more proven for nowt? Same goes for Distin aswell. Taylor --- Ben Haim Onyewu --- Ramage Would do me for next season tbh. Huntington and Edgar there aswell don't forget. Each of whom are far more worth keeping than Bramble, imo. Bramble is million times better than Ramage... At being a fat liability, yes. He's just as good as Ramage at meing a general liabilty. Ramage is better at looking like, but it being, a Scottish liability. They both havr their strengths, see? But they are both Championship. Ramage's mistakes are far worse than Bramble's...Brambles has actually played great in some occasions...Ramage is NOT a defender, hell no he isn't even a footballer to begin with... Brambel has almost entirely played well against utter shite (ref our recent UEFA outings) and CRAP against real teams. And if you don't think Ramage has one at least that, then you haven't been watching. NEITHER of them are good enough. I really don't understand why newcastle fans insist on doing the "i hate X so Y must be good enough". Its a load of shite. They are both poor, and neither should be played if we can help it.

Bad like Michael Jackson (pre-fiddling)? Or bad like kicking puppies in the eyes?

Bestest game(s) i've been to, ever - Man Utd 5-0 Barca 3-2 Sheff Wed 8-0 Leicester 7-1. Game i'd have really loved to been to - Arsenal 1-0 (1952) - cup.

Only because some of our fans have made us look fucking stupid by pretending that the likes of Bramble and Moore are good enough. Makes us look like proper cretins. it is also due to our reputation for bad defending and comical mistakes. a year or two ago the likes of Zat Knight and Liam Ridgewell were making loads of mistakes and basic defending errors but were never lampooned for it, while if Taylor, Babayaro or Bramble makes a mistake, the national press and media are all over it. then there's also the pressure of living in a small city where the club is more like a national team to its citizens. perhaps not coincidentally Ridgewell and Knight both seem to have gotten over their error-prone phase. As has Taylor. But he's not shite, like our other two. Lets face it. Playing dross like Shambles, Carr, Babayaro and Moore is only going to draw attention to our inherent stupidity.

That has to be the case in every country, though. But lets face it, there is more chance of Luque opening a Soccer School on Shields Rd than there is of Roeder unearthing any good unknowns.

Yup, which ain't what we're after that. We got that when we got Gooch, who we'll no doubt sign on a permanent, presuming his performances continue at an average-to-decent level. We want a partner for Taylor. Bramble out, someone in. Ben Haim on a free is my preferred player anyway, although doubtful. Why go spending £5m on Anton Ferdinand or £7m on Curtis Davies, when we can have someone a lot more experienced and a lot more proven for nowt? Same goes for Distin aswell. Taylor --- Ben Haim Onyewu --- Ramage Would do me for next season tbh. Huntington and Edgar there aswell don't forget. Each of whom are far more worth keeping than Bramble, imo. Bramble is million times better than Ramage... At being a fat liability, yes. He's just as good as Ramage at meing a general liabilty. Ramage is better at looking like, but it being, a Scottish liability. They both havr their strengths, see? But they are both Championship.

First game aged 9 in 81/2?? Old get. (82/3, aged 8 for me). I don't think football is going to fail, though - its just evolving. In the same way it had from the pre-war times to when WE first went. The rate of change may have accelerated, but thats the case everywhere, not just football.

Only because some of our fans have made us look fucking stupid by pretending that the likes of Bramble and Moore are good enough. Makes us look like proper cretins.

It only matters if its an English club, i think. FIFA regulations.

Two very different players there. One who can fulfil his potential and genuinely become a really good player. And one who is Bramble. what i mean there is, Bramble 5 years ago, around the time he came here - masses of potential unrealised. Ferdiand looks very similar to Bramble then, who looked immense in his first season in the Prem, then lost all his form as Ipswich plummeted. I don't think Ferdinand now has the "potential" that Bramble had then. He's got his brothers hair and wobbly gob, but nowt else. An, of course, just what we need, another personality like his.

This This this. People advocating that Roy Keane should be let within 10 miles of SJP are one foot over the pond... Anyone advocating Roeder keeping his job is a lunatic.

Two very different players there. One who can fulfil his potential and genuinely become a really good player. And one who is Bramble.

It's ok, we'll win it. Luque will make sure of that.

Hasn't the chairman just had to apologise for monkey chants?

You do the right thing not diving in, mate. I got as far as £500-odd off £20 in less than a month (bookies, not online), but got waaaaay too convinced i had it cracked, and chased the odds rather tahn the games. Then i had nothing.

Owen, Duff, Luque (a La Liga star), Parker, Emre, Martins and countless others suggest otherwise, money talks especially where foreign selling clubs and foreign players are concerned, I have no concerns about NUFC being able to buy top players in that respect, just the right ones which we often fail in, but that is all down to the manager, that and our transfer policy, but not our ambition or ability to attract players which I think is quite good, despite being an average club or not doing too well at the moment. Thats what i was aiming towards, mate. We can get anyone (within reason), but only for a while, or not necessarily the right player (i.e Duff). We don't attract those players on merit, though. We'll need some fundamental changes before we are in that position. Aye, had wondered and agree if I'm honest. You're right changes have to be forced before we can compete for the right players. I remember under Sir Bobby at one point we could have bought Gallas, Terry or Woodgate and bought Woody, and tried again for Terry but by then Roman had came in. Under KK we were game for anyone and had a good chance with many top players. Today we'll pull off the odd top signing like a Martins, but mainly we'll get your Duff's and Owen's. I fear so, mate. Changes need to made at every level, from players up to the board. Lets face it, we've not got much of a chance to attract better players to play alongside the likes of Shambles, Ameobi and Babayaro, under Roeder (barring the ones we throw the cash at, or are desperate/daft enough), or for a club run by our current board regime (not just Fatty, all of them).

Roeder won't have a clue who he is......"i've had Terry watched a couple of times, seems like a good fella".......

Every team should have a player called Diego.

But Ramage is? What makes you so certain that he'll stay in the Summer? He's absolutely toss. Read the first two sentences of my first paragraph, and the first sentence of my second paragraph. Ramage won't go, but Bramble might. God, i hope so. Thet are on a level, ability-wise, but Ramage has a slightly greater chance of improving, plays (marginally) better against superior teams, and costs us less.