Northern Monkey

Note* Not one defender in that list. ^ This. The sheer gulf in class between our attack and defence totally unbalances the team. 1 goal in 2 games against Waragem and Wigan. I'm yet to see the supposed "class". 9th best attack in the division (only 2 goals off having the 6th best) 13th best defence in the division Mid table mediocrity, then. Go Roeder.

Note* Not one defender in that list. ^ This. The sheer gulf in class between our attack and defence totally unbalances the team. Our attack: One great player. Injured. One good player, could be great if he achieves consistency. One absolute shithouse. Championship level. One slow, slow journeyman who was good for less than one season* Two decent midfielders who make poor strikers. * And who that twat Roeder wants to give a 2 year contract to.

6th or 7th is beyond us. 10th would be the level that certain players and the manager are dragging us down to.

Name me 10 Premiership squads you'd swap for ours then, honestly... I know the squad has major flaws, but i'm struggling to think of more than 6 i would prefer. First teams i'm talking about (i don't know enough about other teams full squads, really). Of our "first" team, we have 1 GK, 1 Defender (2 if you count Solano), 4 Midfielders (only one of whom is a top-7 player for me), and 1 striker (Oba still tbc, but he's looking good, in fairness) who are definately up to it. We have a so-called first team where we are TWO dfenders short of a premiership back 4, only one top-7 quality midfielder, and 2 good strikers (if Oba comes good in the medium term). But there is still the fear that this cretin Roeder thinks Babayaro, Bramble, Ameobi etc are good enough, and will try to play/not replace them. Plus he was bigging up Carr earlier in the season, a man whose legs are so fat he can barely run Playing the cunt at left back was beyond fucking stupid.

Boumsing ran faster than Henry once. Beyond that, he wasn't even capable of outplaying Bramble, a footballer who generates contempt and mockery across the country.

Name me 10 Premiership squads you'd swap for ours then, honestly... I know the squad has major flaws, but i'm struggling to think of more than 6 i would prefer. First teams i'm talking about (i don't know enough about other teams full squads, really). Of our "first" team, we have 1 GK, 1 Defender (2 if you count Solano), 4 Midfielders (only one of whom is a top-7 player for me), and 1 striker (Oba still tbc, but he's looking good, in fairness) who are definately up to it. We have a so-called first team where we are TWO dfenders short of a premiership back 4, only one top-7 quality midfielder, and 2 good strikers (if Oba comes good in the medium term). But there is still the fear that this cretin Roeder thinks Babayaro, Bramble, Ameobi etc are good enough, and will try to play/not replace them.

You used "attributes" and "Roeder" in the same sentence, without the words "lack of" somewhere in it. <snigger>

Above average squad? We can't field a first team with a premiership-quality player in every position.

Premiership = Premier League. Okay... but what's this 'away win' everyone keeps going on about? Eh? That's just crazy talk, that.

Why do you think that? Obviously Roeder has proven it over his career, but considering this is Keane's first season... i think he's been very impressive. Because thats EXACTLY what he's proven himself to be so far. What do you think he has proven himself to be, a decent Premiership manager? Because that wpuld be mad, that. Mad. I don't think he has, but he's definetly shown the potential to be 'decent' Premiership at least. He could not have done much more at this stage, could he? Have to disagree with that. He hasn't proven the potential to be a decent Premiership anything. He'll have ot be in the Premiership to do that.

Its easy to have digs at Roeder because he's poor, though.

Well that's this topic killed then! Seriously though, it's nice to have a change of tactic. The opposition must have been surprised when we did a long throw. We never do long throws. Next home game, have a glance at the fella in the home dugout. Then review that statament.

Why do you think that? Obviously Roeder has proven it over his career, but considering this is Keane's first season... i think he's been very impressive. Because thats EXACTLY what he's proven himself to be so far. What do you think he has proven himself to be, a decent Premiership manager? Because that wpuld be mad, that. Mad.

*cough* Veron *cough*

I like the irony of your post, Northern Monkey, in spite of the fact that you didn't really mean it. Your post is sarcastic and exaggerated, yes, but it's this settling for mediocrity that Roeder seems to have the nack of doing in recent times. Which contributes to our... well... mediocrity. One of his main weaknesses that, actually. HIS main weakness is that he is not a good manager. OURS is that we accept him. In seriousness (seeing as you saw through my almost-impenetrable cloak of sarcasm), we were shit on Sunday. Not shit like we were against the UEFA part-timers, when only our true Championship players shone, but achingly poor, without a clue, and well below the level required of the premiership. Which, ironically, is a microcosm for at least half of our "first team" and our manager.

In fairness, Jenas and Dyer broke (breaks) our attacks in other ways, normally by runnign down a blind alley. As for Ambrose, he was just a nonesense. Parker DOES take too much time, no doubt, and how long he thinks he can get away with his patented "swivel on the ball" is a mystery, but he's not as bad as some we have had/do have.

Is it just me, or does "Keano", and no-one apart from nobs call him, look ill nowadays. He's done well, but when he took over they were in an unrealistic position. Mind, i don't think he's a better manager than Roeder - i suspect they are both decent enough Championship managers.

I can count on one hand the number of central midfielders i've seen with worse distribution and what's this 'decent shot' he has? Has he ever produced anything more than a 'toe punt' from outside the area? To describe him as a 'great individual player' is laughable. we've had at least two of these over the past few years. I can name bloody loads worse or, at least, not much better just in recent times: Faye, Jenas, Dyer, Batty, McClen, Glass, Bowyer, Ambrose, etc. Hyperbole? You think he's trying to make Dyer, Jeenas or Faye look better?? Wouldn't be particularly hard. True enough. Still, as long as we have Pattinson, we'll be ok..........

He'd have been too slow to catch him.

I got as far as "comparing them to Roeder", then nearly wet myself laughing. I'm sure that was the point, that Roeder is genuinely small time (as most of the team are in fairness), but the very sentence humoured me geatly.

I can count on one hand the number of central midfielders i've seen with worse distribution and what's this 'decent shot' he has? Has he ever produced anything more than a 'toe punt' from outside the area? To describe him as a 'great individual player' is laughable. we've had at least two of these over the past few years. I can name bloody loads worse or, at least, not much better just in recent times: Faye, Jenas, Dyer, Batty, McClen, Glass, Bowyer, Ambrose, etc. Hyperbole? You think he's trying to make Dyer, Jeenas or Faye look better??

I can count on one hand the number of central midfielders i've seen with worse distribution and what's this 'decent shot' he has? Has he ever produced anything more than a 'toe punt' from outside the area? To describe him as a 'great individual player' is laughable. we've had at least two of these over the past few years. I can name bloody loads worse or, at least, not much better just in recent times: Faye, Jenas, Dyer, Batty, McClen, Glass, Bowyer, Ambrose, etc. I was thinking specifically of the last few seasons, with Faye and Dyer being the worst, but you can include Emre there as well, and Bowyer should get an honoirable mention for also mimicing Parkers will to get the ball back once he loses it, only with even more cringeworthy results.

Maybe we SHOULD all be all positive - yes, lets do that. Sundays game was brilliant. We played really well, Bramble didn't show any signs of being an untrustworthy clutz against slightly better opposition than the UEFA game, the midfield was outstanding, and Roeder showed his tactical genius. We were really, really unlucky to lose, and Sibierski was cruelly and painfully scythed down for the penalty. All we have to do is repeat this level of perfomance, and continue to rely on players who aren't good enough, as well as utilising Roeders phenomenal team selection, tactical and motivational skills, and we will sweep everyone else in the league aside, as befits a massive, important, well-respected club.

Im neither intransigent or a WUM. Accept other peoples opinion may differ from yours. After 5 or 6 seasons of cock-ups Ive simply lost patience with Bramble. How long am I supposed to wait for him to finally string acceptable performances consistently? Has he improved at all since we signed him? He has, but not by much. Those stats dont prove anything. Why dont you get me the stats of his appearances and goals conceded from the previous seasons? You really think Bramble holds our defence together? I dont know which Bramble youre watching, man. But I think a clown on a donkey would perform better than him. Facts? Thats a load of crap, mate. Unlike NM, I dont moan at every possible opportunity. I've said I rate most of our midfielders and strikers, didn't I? If youre happy watching NUFC settling for mediocre players then thats your choice. Personally, Im fed of the club making us put up with players that are not good enough to wear the shirt of a club like Newcastle. Get to fuck. I won't complain when we have a manager and team worthy even of someone like you, never mimd the rest of us. You rate most of our midfielders and strikers? Then you're an idiot, well done.

Eh?? What the fuck are you blathering about this time?