Northern Monkey

Babayaros confidence may grow, but unless his ability does as well, he's still fucked.

I said something similar in the Duff thread, but the fact is its unrealistic. Just imagine it's the World Cup Final (or Champions League, whatever) and Henry is charging into the box and has a swan dive. The ref has to be absolutely certain, zero question at all, in order to send him off. Then you have to factor reputations into it too - are players known as divers like Cristiano Ronaldo and Henry are going to be "gone after"? What happens when a player cleans up his act like Drogba? I appreciate your basic sentiment, agree wholeheartedly, but applying it would be a nightmare! Then he wouldn't get sent off for divind, as he wouldn't dive. Yeah, fair enough, but I guess I meant more from the ref's mindset point of view - Drogba had a bad reputation for diving, and while he has been cleaning up his act it's another element in that split-second decision the referee has to make. Player X always dives, Player Y dives sometimes, Player Z used to dive but not anymore... Preceonceptions are, unfortunately, part of a refs make-up. Would be interesting to get Paul Mosely's views (or any other refs out there) I'd rather run the risk of poor refs using preconceptions than let everyone get away with diving.

I think you might be right there. ANYONE who dives shoudl be punished.

Just what Newcastle United need. A change of manager. We're already a fucking laughing stock ffs! And we'll continue to be one with such an incompetent manager at the helm. Word.

Duffs mind was on diving.

Murray's decent, I reckon. Shambolic, more like. He's worse on the radio, granted, but he's definately no TV presenter.

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I said something similar in the Duff thread, but the fact is its unrealistic. Just imagine it's the World Cup Final (or Champions League, whatever) and Henry is charging into the box and has a swan dive. The ref has to be absolutely certain, zero question at all, in order to send him off. Then you have to factor reputations into it too - are players known as divers like Cristiano Ronaldo and Henry are going to be "gone after"? What happens when a player cleans up his act like Drogba? I appreciate your basic sentiment, agree wholeheartedly, but applying it would be a nightmare! Then he wouldn't get sent off for divind, as he wouldn't dive.

Gingerist.

It was a deliberate, cheating dive. End of.

Not as much of a loss as we hoped that would be, in fairness.

John Barnes and Colin Murray - dream presenting combination.

Hasn't Diouf claimed this sort of thing before, only for it not to be proven. Very easy to play the race card.

The alternative is that Roeder will play Ameobi as soon as he can, the prick. Wouldn't want Kuyt. Hasn't impressed me in the slightest.

Players who do that disgust me. Having watched the likes of Baros, Ronaldo and Drogba throwing themselves to the ground makes me fucking sick. Anyone who doesn't condemn Duff for his dive last night has no right to complain when opposition players dive and WE come out the losers.

Just what Newcastle United need. A change of manager. We're already a fucking laughing stock ffs! No, you're right. What we need is a manager who is incapable of seeing and/or fixing the fucking massive gaps we have in the first team. Genius.

hopefully we'll have a different manager.

I didnt watch the game but from all the comments about Duff i dont think he was thah shit He should be fined.

I think he'll do one.

Harper - 6 Solano - 7 Taylor - 6 Bramble - 6 Baba - 6 Milner - 6 Butt - 6 Dyer - 7 Duff - 0 Martins - 6 Sibierski - 6

3-4m?? Jesus, didn't realise we were selling that shitbag and throwing Luque in as well.

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Hopefully he'll not be at the club then. If we continue to play him as a first team striker - even if he is 3rd choice - Roeder will prove himself to be a bigger cunt that Souness when it comes to shite players.

take away edgar and insert a half decent LB maybe. Seems to me an intelligent, hard working player who needs first team opportunities. To say the very least he shits all over baba. We probably do need a new left back, but I don't think we should splash the cash on someone fairly young and expensive. Cheap and experienced to fill the gap till Edgar is ready to step in as a week on week regular who won't cost too much. I do like Edgar, however he's no more a left back than Taylor is a right back, square pegs in round holes and all that. A square peg is still better than a shite Babayaro.

Aye, I'm sure merely changing the manager would achieve that! Yeah I think it would. I think GR is doin a decent job - especially in rebuilding the club. BUT - i don't think he is capable of winning the league or being up there with the bigger clubs. Just the feeling I get. I believe someone with a winning track record and reputation would take us to greater heights. But yeah - right now, well done GR - and may you keep proving me wrong. Rebuilding the club?? Thats absolutely ridiculous. What I'm sayin is pretty simple: GR is doing a DECENT job interim but I want a manager who will make the club compete with Man U, Chelsea etc and honestly I can't see GR doing that. Anyway, good performance saturday from all the lads (inc. babayaro BUT NOT Bramble) - Brilliant result. He's keeping the seat warm, but how anyone can say he is rebuilding is insane.