Northern Monkey

Interesting to note that a bloke who was directly involved in Bellamy's line of fire on more than one occasion speaks so highly of him, though, eh? Even went to his wedding in the summer. Someone who would actually know the goings-on inside of the club far better than any of us on here... and somebody who probably knows more about top-flight coaching than most, as well. Madness. Are you talking about someone else now.

And Souness - an impeccable source of footballing wisdom - said as much too.

When you wake up in the real world mate, it isn't just the doll wallers who haven't got "real sky", I am a PhD Student and I don't have that much cash, i've got a mortgage to pay and car payments and bills to meet. Getting "real" sky is not a viable option as I can't afford it, taking away SSN and Sky News etc. just takes the p*ss. Sorry - Dole Wallahs and Dirty Students. Better?

Northern Monkey - If SWp or Downing had played as well as Dyer did (MOM in my opinion) would you have said that they had a poor game? Did really well? Your expectations are clearly very low. I wonder how you'd have viewed his performance if he hadn't been a toon player. Yes - i think Dyer had a poor game. The rest had equally poor or worse, but that doesn't detract from the fact that Dyer did not play at all well.

You think Roeder will get us into the top 7 by the end of the season? PS - if you do, you're wrong. He is not capable of it now. No i dont think he will But neither did Bobby Robson in his first full season Do you think Roeder EVER will? Point of Note 1 - Shambles walks back into the first team Point of Note 2 - last summer we NEEDED: FW x2, LB, RB, CB. What did he do by the end of thst transfer window? Point of Note 3 - Carr at LB Point of Note 4 - Carr not given away to gypsies.

I get the SKy+ Multiroom thing. Not sure what it costs, £50 or £60-odd quid. But Multiroom is a MUST if you have kids. Little remote-thieving gets.

You think Roeder will get us into the top 7 by the end of the season? PS - if you do, you're wrong. He is not capable of it now.

pity your team are as bad as ours Not for long - better manager, better chairman, matter of time. cannot argue with that but time will tell maybe fat fred will see the light No, he won't. He'll stick with Roeder until we're 10 years off the pace, not just 3. Then he'll sack him, act like HE'S done US a favour, and put some other cretin in charge.

So will the poor people have to get TWO boxes now, or stop spending their giros on Space Raiders and meths long enough to pay for Sky properly?

Did really well? Your expectations are clearly very low. I wonder how you'd have viewed his performance if he hadn't been a toon player.

Last summer, everyone knew that we needed 2 strikers, a left back, a right back, ans a centre half. By the end of the summer transfer window, what had Roeder done? He's tied his own hands, the useless twat.

Because people are simple. (reference: Shola shoudl get a game because we have not bought anyone else. As if that makes him a good enough player by default.)

Wrong. With Roeder at the helm we are an infinite number of years away from challenging for honours.

Bramble walks back into the team..... Carr at left back.......Shola is good enough....... So i'm guessing "VERY simple".

Perhaps its a benefit of the doubt thing. Shepherd has proven himself to be full of shit, Lerner has not.

Thats a Readers Digest version of Dyers career.

Yes, we are definitely watching different teams. And reading different papers. For which game did the team get "elicit praise" from the southern press? Souness - picked the wrong team/tactics, we were shite. Roeder - picks the wrong team/tactics, we are MARGINALLY less shite. Who cares what the "southern press" thinks - those of us who actually go to/watch the match can see than Roeder is an idiot. Bramble walking back into the team is evidence of that.

nee worse than any of the rest of that sorry shower of shite Again, thats apologist stuff - he was shite. Ignore the rest, tahts irrelevan. Dyer was very very poor, both in the team sense, and what he did individually. He's not Internaitonal class, but there again neither are a number of the shithouses that McLaren will continue to pick, so maybe Dire has an England career ahead of him after all.

pity your team are as bad as ours Not for long - better manager, better chairman, matter of time.

So now you have been converted from a Roeder basher to a Roeder lover? Apologies in advance if I am oversimplifying things. Funny that, I have turned into a Roeder - opposer from a Roeder supporter. I still wish Roeder all the best but I have drawn the conclusion that Roeder isn't the right man for this club for long term future, and there are + there were better, more qualified available managers in the market whom we should go for. Gareth Southgate is improving slowly. Stuart Pearce, despite his eccentricities, doesn't look like the man to drag Man City down to Championship. Paul Jewell isn't a bad manager either. Coleman is proven to be decent manager. Warnock is a vastly experienced manager aided by another immensely experience coach Brian Kidd. There are a few up and coming young managers from the Championship, Paul Simpson and Billy Davies. Roy Keane too. What exactly does Roeder offer? Motivation skills? Plenty of managers have that. Academy record? Quite a few clubs are now having very decent academies. Cautios transfer policy? Apart from Curbishley of West Ham you won't see any mad managers spending mad money anymore (unless the club has bottomless money supply) Despite implying about the lack of fund, Roeder has forgetten that he splashed out 10 millions for Martins who brings instance success to us. How many clubs can afford to splash 10m just for a striker? 10m for a successful striker isn't something exceptional. Everton paid 8m for Andy Johnson. Bolton paid 8m for Anelka. Liverpool paid 9m for Dirk Kuyt. Tottenham paid 11m for Berbatov. Aston Villa paid 9m for Ashley Young. Apart from Young the others have proven to be a success just like Martins. What is the edge Roeder has that others don't? Dunno about "egde", but he HAS got a pointy face. PS - Martins hasn't proven to be a success yet. Lets let him settle in and develop some consistency.

Maybe McLaren was giving Dire a chance to prove he was good enough~? Alas, he failed miserably in that.

Jesus Christ, are you for real? Players get substituted in matches all the time ffs. Souness substitutes Bellamy and somehow you see it as a dastardly plan to force him out of the club. He DID engineer his departurem, though. A true measure of the idiocy of the Scottish cunt.

He missed his chance of being a week in, week out striker for us by not being good enough, fuck all to do with injuries. This fella is NOT good enough, simple as that. He'll never be prolific, or have any particular footballing ability. He'd do a good job in the Championship, for me. He's on a par with Carr, Shambles, Moore and Roeder in that sense.

Thus helping explain why we allow shite like Roeder, Shambles, Ameobi and Dire to remain at the club.

Going in the right direction? Mid table mediocrity, yay.