Northern Monkey

Silvestre surely can't be ahead of him in the pecking order, he is a joke at that club! A joke?? You must REALLY hate our defenders then, if you think a player like him is a joke. I meant he is to their fans (he was part some piss take poster in one of their mags) and I couldnt see how he would be ahead of Heinze who is a hell of a lot better (imho) Heinze never really got his place back (which he was starting to own, i think) after his big injury, i reckon. He's better than Silvestre, until he loses his head, but Silvestre is still a very good defender.

They'll be saying he's international class, soon. He'd be world class at "running fast with the ball then doing fuck all with it". But he's only a very average footballer.

Silvestre surely can't be ahead of him in the pecking order, he is a joke at that club! A joke?? You must REALLY hate our defenders then, if you think a player like him is a joke. Being better than our defenders isn't a compliment though. True, its a standard fact of life - i actually don't think there are more than half a dozen defenders (first team) worse than some of our lot in the Prem. I mean, our second best defender, Moore, isn't even good enough for the bench in 3/4 of EPL times.

But RELATIVELY, they have been poor. Many of the nationalities has had some ****ing proper failures, even just at this club - france (Boumwrong), Spain (Marcelino, Luque), Africa (Faye, Babayaro, Ameobi), Croatia (Maric), Ireland (Carr), et al. Oh, and the person who said Arteta was just average - unbelievable.

Silvestre surely can't be ahead of him in the pecking order, he is a joke at that club! A joke?? You must REALLY hate our defenders then, if you think a player like him is a joke.

Been better, and more effective, than Henry this season. I used to think he was just an over-hyped (when in France), strong clogger. But this past season or two, he's shown that Mourinho isn't a bad judge of player.

How many league goals and assists has Luque got for us? Duff has been a let down. But he's still proven himself more effective on the left wing than Luque.

Taylor Barton Distin Bernard Hughes Ramage Dabizas Moore Griffin Elliott Carr O'Brien Bramble Babayaro Boumsong

bluelaugh.gif bluelaugh.gif Comedy Gold. I agree, that shoudl be fine...... Except Ameobi is nowhere near a good enough striker. No-****ing-where near. And Dire is neither a striker, nor a good enough forward to be part of a top-4 striker force. And Martins has done nothing t prove he is good enough for a top 4 side. Of course, its a moot point, as there are very few players in our squad good enough for that level anyway. I nearly replied to this but then I realised that no one bothers anymore with him. Why does he still post on a forum when everyone ignores his usual nothing else to write bullshit. Self-confessed sheep. Maybe i should be all jovial and happy and pretend we are a good enough team with a good enough manager? I don't think so. Maybe you'd be happier then, though, if everyone posted the same happy-clappy bollocks?

How? Are they grafting some talent into him at the same time?

I thought that was Mary Poppins??

Improving the team would increase revenue in all sorts of ways. Television revenue gets bigger. The Champions League brings loads of cash. The brand becomes more valuable which means more sponsorship and more shirts etc are sold outside of home territory. I'm sure they can bring in a brand-manager/marketing type who can do a better job than Dougie sodding Hall. But yes, they would also look for revenue in new ways. There have been articles posted on here that mention plans for a hotel or two, and the hope of a casino (though they stressed that no plans depended on the casino). If a hotel on the site would prove to be a solid revenue stream, increasing the wealth of the club and stability of its finances, and they have the investment needed to build it, then as far as I'm concerned they should go right ahead. (Pure speculation, but combine a hotel and whatever at the Gallowgate end with an expansion of stadium capacity and what's not to like?) For sure, the club under Fat Fred probably doesn't have the vision and evidently couldn't muster the cash for that sort of development. We're still paying for the stadium and he's scrabbling around for funds to buy players. but it would take £70m+ to make us better than Liverpool, Arsenal, Man Utd, Chelsea.

I don't see why him coming across as a nice guy makes it more difficult to know he shoudl be sacked, and come out and say it. Its not a "good person" contest, its a job at which Roeder is very very bad.

The fundamental flaw in this argument is that Shola is NOT a good enough striker. He would be fantastic at a Championship club, do a decent job in a bottom-seven of the Prem type club. But he's nowhere near good enough for where we want to be, even just the top 10. Martins is still proving himself, we don't know if he's going to make it yet. But he's clearly a better player than Shola,a nd could well turn out to be a great buy. But Shola - donkey shite.

bluelaugh.gif bluelaugh.gif Comedy Gold. I agree, that shoudl be fine...... Except Ameobi is nowhere near a good enough striker. No-fucking-where near. And Dire is neither a striker, nor a good enough forward to be part of a top-4 striker force. And Martins has done nothing t prove he is good enough for a top 4 side. Of course, its a moot point, as there are very few players in our squad good enough for that level anyway.

Nolberto Solano - bin/offer coaching role Craig Moore - if he wants to stay, keep, but NOT as a first team player, please god. Titus Bramble - bin, he's shite. Antoine Sibierski - bin.

Um... No, considering the entire league is only two years old with clubs started from scratch - and that he never played senior football in Australia... Anyway, I voted yes because I'm biased but am perfectly willing to accept he has flaws to his game. tmonkey's analysis of his lack of pace and mobility is spot on - but underestimates the 'strategic' nature of his fouls. Yes, he can be a right dirty bastard at times, but when does he give away free kicks in the sort of position Taylor did on the weekend? Very rarely I would suggest... But he isn't a very good defender - he costs us goals in other ways (i.e. by not being in the right place at the right time, not making tackles, getting skinned tiem after time).

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But he's not actually that good.

Duscher is a "get in there and **** them up player" and we need someone like that along side Parker. We seem to have one of those in Emre, only he doesn't do it very well. Or indeed at all. So we don't have one of them players at all.

Chopra and Shola are not good enough. Not by a long shot. I've never seen Little play for us, so him.

Given Neill --- Distin --- Moore* --- Bridge Milner --- Parker --- Dyer --- Duff Martins --- Bent *For this season. You've dropped our only good defender. And included a bear terminal (hopefully) crock.

I don't know, i don't often go there. Its all rough and that.

Not that I disagree with your comments but he did shag your missus didnt he? tongue.gif nope. My bird is from Leeds. And not the part where they let the "darker" boys go.

Not good enough. Unless we are HAPPY being a bottom-quarter of the Prem/top-quarter of the Championship team. In which case he is good enough. Replace with a good defender to play alongside Taylor, as soon as possible. Keep Moore as a defender on the bench if we must, he's better than that fat pile of dung Shambles, but he's not a first-teamer if we intend to not be in the bottom half of the EPL.