Northern Monkey

Including many of the players HE bought?

Its not a comparison thing. He's had money, the chance to choose his own players, tactics and formations. And they've been wrong. How can anyone think this is the man for us??

SA's tactics have been very very wrong this season, how can you say he's "proven" he knows what to do?? Its not as if he has proven it in a different league, and needs time to adjust. His tactics have been terrible most of this season so far. He has spent a fair bit of money. Regardless of what he has recouped, he has shelled out a lot of money, and the players he has brought in have not, in the main, been any good - including the ones with Premiership experience, who should have needed fuck all time ot get used to the league. His player selection and formations have been wrong. Fact. He seems to be refusing to admit his complicity, talking about having to tell the players a few home truths after the Red Shite game - no mention on if he gave himself a deessing down for the wrong tactics, formation and players. IT IS AN ACCEPTED FACT THAT WE NEED TO GIVE THE RIGHT MANAGER TIME. I would argue that we should only give time, however, to the correct manager. I don't think it is SA, so the idea of giving him time, and even more money, is not valid to me. Get in the right man, and yes, lets get behind him and give him time. But nothing i've seen from SA in the past or at NUFC leads me to think he's the one for us. Does anyon ereally think he's the one to get us top 5, then top 4 long term, honestly? And if so, based on what??

If he ever goes anywhere for anything like £5million I'll show my arse in Fenwick's windows. Not long ago I reckon people would have been saying the same thing about Chopra No-one coudl have predicted that anyone would be stupid enough to bid so much more than he was worth.

Crouch played his heart out for England and thoroughly deserved his warm welcome. To do otherwise is frankly laughable. pathetic. He might have played well for England but its no reason to applaud an opposing player. I've never done that in over 40 years and I don't know anybody who has. And no one is going to force you too, either. If thousands around you are of a different mind to you, then maybe you should just accept this is the way it is and it's you with the backward logic. Alternatively you could just stop whining like a woman. it isn't the way it is. I've not seen it in over 40 years. If you want to applaud ie encourage opposing players, thats up to you. We were facing a possible 5 or 6 goal thrashing and you advocate this ? Get a life. Get a life? I think you need to take a long hard look at yourself, because you're ranting about much of a nothingness. If I were you (god forbid) I would be thinking, OK, annoys me a bit but I guess most people are of a different opinion to me so I guess that's just the way it is. No one was encouraging or supporting the Liverpool players, you'd be an idiot to think this is what it was. It was simply a mark of respect. Did you say the same when Les Ferdinand done a lap of honour and the ground was on its feet? Surely we shouldn't have encouraged this Tottenham Hotspurs player, this would be outrageous, to you wouldn't it? This ENCOURAGEMENT of the opposition... you're comparing Les Ferdinand to that twisty faced c*** Gerrard? Muahahahaahahaahah! Erm, no. I'm comparing applauding opposition players. Bye. No, you're not, You're comparing applauding Ferdinand with applauding a liverpool player who has never been a legend for NUFC. But thanks for trying to justify your weak argument anyway, appreciate it. I wrote the post, I will tell you what the point is. Not the other way round. NE5 said you should not applaud opposition players, and has never seen it in 40 years. I pointed out that the WHOLE GROUND applauded Les Ferdinand, (and rightly so) as a mark of respect, which was only a few years ago. It's normal and it also shown him to be a hypocrite. Swallowed that? Now naff off, you little spastic. I can't be arsed with you son. "Naff off you little spastic"!!!! That's genius. A poor insult, and a derogatory inference to the mentally impaired. As it happens, I think YOU are ace, and not at all a "fan" incapable of seeing the truth in front of them if Fat Allardyce came over and had it tattooed on his huge head. I'm guessing you don't go to the game, and before you start about it not mattering, etc, you're wrong. it MUST be past your bed time, probably time you turned in, mate. Sorry, I do appreciate your contribution but this ends here. Last word is yours on this matter as I haven't time to play message tennis with you, so go ahead. "A poor insult, and a derogatory inference to the mentally impaired." Sorry, didn't mean to offend your sort. I wish i could come back against that one, but it is such a beautifully crafted piece of insulting genius that I have to bow to your superiority. Maybe, when I'm 11 like you, i'll be that good, I can only hope. Oh, and regarding the booing/applauding thing - you're either incredibly lacking in knowledge, or you've missed the point. Who knows, but the X FActor results show is on ITV2, so you can think about it while you watch that.

Allardyce thanked Mort for giving him the most money he'd ever had to spend, or words to that effect. Not saying that much though is it. Didn't he spend something like £6m net? But what did he SPEND, on players HE wanted?

Its true that changing managers a lot does us no favours, but the simple, undeniable fact is taht if the manager is not good enough, sticking with him will NOT help one bit. And Allardcy isn't good enough. He's proven this for me through: * Management of certain players * Randomly putting players out of position * Very very bad formation choices * Very very bad tactical choices * Bad player selections * Bad substitutions * Bad signings * An inability to accept he's wromg and change

Crouch played his heart out for England and thoroughly deserved his warm welcome. To do otherwise is frankly laughable. pathetic. He might have played well for England but its no reason to applaud an opposing player. I've never done that in over 40 years and I don't know anybody who has. And no one is going to force you too, either. If thousands around you are of a different mind to you, then maybe you should just accept this is the way it is and it's you with the backward logic. Alternatively you could just stop whining like a woman. it isn't the way it is. I've not seen it in over 40 years. If you want to applaud ie encourage opposing players, thats up to you. We were facing a possible 5 or 6 goal thrashing and you advocate this ? Get a life. Get a life? I think you need to take a long hard look at yourself, because you're ranting about much of a nothingness. If I were you (god forbid) I would be thinking, OK, annoys me a bit but I guess most people are of a different opinion to me so I guess that's just the way it is. No one was encouraging or supporting the Liverpool players, you'd be an idiot to think this is what it was. It was simply a mark of respect. Did you say the same when Les Ferdinand done a lap of honour and the ground was on its feet? Surely we shouldn't have encouraged this Tottenham Hotspurs player, this would be outrageous, to you wouldn't it? This ENCOURAGEMENT of the opposition... you're comparing Les Ferdinand to that twisty faced c*** Gerrard? Muahahahaahahaahah! Erm, no. I'm comparing applauding opposition players. Bye. No, you're not, You're comparing applauding Ferdinand with applauding a liverpool player who has never been a legend for NUFC. But thanks for trying to justify your weak argument anyway, appreciate it. I wrote the post, I will tell you what the point is. Not the other way round. NE5 said you should not applaud opposition players, and has never seen it in 40 years. I pointed out that the WHOLE GROUND applauded Les Ferdinand, (and rightly so) as a mark of respect, which was only a few years ago. It's normal and it also shown him to be a hypocrite. Swallowed that? Now naff off, you little spastic. I can't be arsed with you son. "Naff off you little spastic"!!!! That's genius. A poor insult, and a derogatory inference to the mentally impaired. As it happens, I think YOU are ace, and not at all a "fan" incapable of seeing the truth in front of them if Fat Allardyce came over and had it tattooed on his huge head. I'm guessing you don't go to the game, and before you start about it not mattering, etc, you're wrong. it MUST be past your bed time, probably time you turned in, mate.

Atmosphere is reflected from the team. How the f*** can rack up a mountanious atmosphere when the team is as passive, distant, unwilling, and plain rubbish as that? We were stunned. We play these f****** players wages, they should be trying at the very least, even if attainment is 1% effort should be 110% every game. I do believe they are not confident with the current style and BS has not won them over entirely but that's just me throwing ideas into the air with regards to the root of the problem. what were you expecting today ? for us to put liverpool to the sword and dazzle them with our attacking prowess whilst at the same time frustrating them with our solidity at the back. we were up against things before the whistle even blew. anyone who didn't realise this is living in a fantasy land. so it would have made sense to get behind the side and at least give them some vocal encouragement whilst they took on a difficult task. but no. what do the majority do. boo our players, sings songs degrading our manager, cheer the players in red shirts. it is fucking backwards man. I was ashamed to be in the home crowd today. Bolton beat manure today, we didn't have a go. the losing mentality has to go, if we want to achieve anything. ...and they beat ManU by going back to SA's system. Not entirely, no. Although they DID do some things we didn't today - have a manager capable of doing an appropriate job, and players who were up to the task.

Can't be arsed reading too much upwards, too many idiots - what is your point? Do you think we shouldn't be booing players and a manager whgo are nowhere near good enough, or were you advocating applauding opposition players? Oh, and if you're calling NE5 childish, you're about 2 World Wars too late.

What a load of fucking shit, laughing at one of our players TRYING out of a squad of players not trying, you used a smiley called mackems, you should be fucking sitting with them every week in the SOL with that attitude. In fainress, I've laughed at Smith and foremerly Ameobi a number of times. It can soemtimes seem the only way to not go mad watching these pieces of shite play for us.

Crouch played his heart out for England and thoroughly deserved his warm welcome. To do otherwise is frankly laughable. pathetic. He might have played well for England but its no reason to applaud an opposing player. I've never done that in over 40 years and I don't know anybody who has. And no one is going to force you too, either. If thousands around you are of a different mind to you, then maybe you should just accept this is the way it is and it's you with the backward logic. Alternatively you could just stop whining like a woman. it isn't the way it is. I've not seen it in over 40 years. If you want to applaud ie encourage opposing players, thats up to you. We were facing a possible 5 or 6 goal thrashing and you advocate this ? Get a life. Get a life? I think you need to take a long hard look at yourself, because you're ranting about much of a nothingness. If I were you (god forbid) I would be thinking, OK, annoys me a bit but I guess most people are of a different opinion to me so I guess that's just the way it is. No one was encouraging or supporting the Liverpool players, you'd be an idiot to think this is what it was. It was simply a mark of respect. Did you say the same when Les Ferdinand done a lap of honour and the ground was on its feet? Surely we shouldn't have encouraged this Tottenham Hotspurs player, this would be outrageous, to you wouldn't it? This ENCOURAGEMENT of the opposition... you're comparing Les Ferdinand to that twisty faced c*** Gerrard? Muahahahaahahaahah! Erm, no. I'm comparing applauding opposition players. Bye. No, you're not, You're comparing applauding Ferdinand with applauding a liverpool player who has never been a legend for NUFC. But thanks for trying to justify your weak argument anyway, appreciate it.

You, sir, are a cretin. Is that out of Goodfellas? Yes, yes it is. The mail man said it.

Dear Sam Allardyce, Yet again - as for the majority of games this season - you selected the wrong formation, wrong tactics and wrong players for this game. Your substitutions were then shite. Please, please fuck off, and take shite like Smith and Geremi (who you made Captain of our team before he even kicked a ball for us) with you. I Thank You, NM, and other NUFC fans who don't buy the "suck pur manager and payers' cocks just because they are employed by NUFC, they must be good enough" idiocy.

You, sir, are a cretin.

Crouch played his heart out for England and thoroughly deserved his warm welcome. To do otherwise is frankly laughable. pathetic. He might have played well for England but its no reason to applaud an opposing player. I've never done that in over 40 years and I don't know anybody who has. And no one is going to force you too, either. If thousands around you are of a different mind to you, then maybe you should just accept this is the way it is and it's you with the backward logic. Alternatively you could just stop whining like a woman. it isn't the way it is. I've not seen it in over 40 years. If you want to applaud ie encourage opposing players, thats up to you. We were facing a possible 5 or 6 goal thrashing and you advocate this ? Get a life. Get a life? I think you need to take a long hard look at yourself, because you're ranting about much of a nothingness. If I were you (god forbid) I would be thinking, OK, annoys me a bit but I guess most people are of a different opinion to me so I guess that's just the way it is. No one was encouraging or supporting the Liverpool players, you'd be an idiot to think this is what it was. It was simply a mark of respect. Did you say the same when Les Ferdinand done a lap of honour and the ground was on its feet? Surely we shouldn't have encouraged this Tottenham Hotspurs player, this would be outrageous, to you wouldn't it? This ENCOURAGEMENT of the opposition... you're comparing Les Ferdinand to that twisty faced cunt Gerrard? Muahahahaahahaahah!

Like we can talk.

This. Being a good footballer doesn't make you a good football manager, its a whole different skill set, same as in many walks of life. Let him prove himself and learn those skills first, then bring him to Newcastle. If that costs a bit of money, so be it. Better pay a few quid for a good manager than pay a LOT more overall if an untested manager turns out shit.

As a Newcastle fan, i hope he'd go, and i think he would. As an England fan, i hope he'd stay. Ooh, the confusion.

Because they are arseholes. I'm gutted, because I'm an English football fan. I support England for the same reason that I support Newcastle - it's where i'm from. There is no conflict, except for retards.

I disagree, i think that, given a capable partner and some coaching, he will become a good player. We have worse performers this season, but as they are "new" - although not all new to the premiership - apparently we aren't a;;owed to discuss them. Not allowed to discuss them? Everyone (including you) wants Cacapa put down. I wasn't talking about him, i was talking about players who are not new to the premiership.....the hint was in the phrase "not all new to the premiership" Oh, and on the basis that he was passable for a few games, then absolutely fucking woeful in one, i wouldn't have Cacapa 'put down'. I'd just tie him to a tree in the park with a cleaned-out ice cream tub full of water, and make an anonymous call to the RSPCA.

No, i don't have one. And neither do you, nor anyone else on here i'm guessing. MY OPINION, which is all i have ever claimed to state - unlike some knobheads on here, and please include yourself in that if you wish, who seem to claim to know how good every player in the league/country/world is - is that this player is no better than the pretty good players we already have in that postion. If my having that, or any other opinion, offends you, feel free to fuck off.

I take it you're not into the whole "letting players settle into a new league" thing right? Yeah, Geremi and Smith should be given time to settle, definately.

He gets results, though. Pretty true. He's clearly pretty effective at that club. I just can't stand him. You appear to let your prejudice affect your judgement quite frequently. Really? Based on that comment, you appear to talk shit. But don't worry, i don't think anyone's noticed.

WUM Explain yourself. I would never, ever want Redknapp at my cluib, or any club I had any vestige of respect for. Ever. Whether you like him or not... worse than Bruce? Come on now. NM caught in a peverse maelstrom of irrationality....Not like you mate. Oooh, cutting. You wish.