Northern Monkey

agreed. Been at the centre of good moves, holding it up bringing people into the game and now scoring a goal. Doing his job properly all game. balls. he'd done absolutely nothing till he scored. if this is how he plays against his old club, i may need to retract my 'he will get few more than 10, because he's show nothing that points towards him being capable of that.

far be it from me to question the best manager we've ever had, bound to lead us to 4th, etc, but has he shown once so far that he has any clue how to change a game ? like for like subs? just the ticket. oh, and yet another example of viduka showing he's not actualy that good. i'm sat watching this shit, and before any cretins watching on tv start, we DO have a better view of the flow of the game.

I didnt meant he needed time to get used to the Premiership.Im trying to say he might be a bit rusty and tired from all the games he played with Australia.Other than that,hes a proveng goalscorer. he's not going to be troubling the top scorer charts, in fairness. He'll probably score a few good goals in fairness. he shoudl get double figures, but i doubt he'll do much more than that. Only double figures? I see your point then. To rectify the situation we should buy Drogba for £32m without further ado. That's the top goalscorer problem fixed then. so i am totally in the wrong wanting a first choice striker capable of getting 1 goal ever other game? How very stupid of me. Imagine me actually thinking we should get a good goalscorer. Yes, Viduka is "class", and great, and just what we need.

I didnt meant he needed time to get used to the Premiership.Im trying to say he might be a bit rusty and tired from all the games he played with Australia.Other than that,hes a proveng goalscorer. he's not going to be troubling the top scorer charts, in fairness. He'll probably score a few good goals in fairness. he shoudl get double figures, but i doubt he'll do much more than that.

Yes, yes i can. Can't we all, as football fans? As for Carr, an AVERAGE right back would be far better. If you are saying that is a difficult task for a competent manager to find, and buy, a better right back than Stephen Carr, you are either as mad as a particularly crazed scotsman, or Stephen Carrs mam. I see buying an AVERAGE right-back as a pointless waste of money though. i don't. We're an average club, so average players should be our minimum. We currenly have a s**** right back. That, simply put, cannot continue. Weren't you whining in another thread about Geremi playing in the middle? If you are happy with an average RB, what was your problem with Geremi assuming you don't think he's utter s***? i thought he was utter s*** on Saturday. I don't think he is actually a s*** player, Geremi, he has yet to prove either way whether he is good enough or not. Yet based on one performance which wasn't to your liking, you shouted he should never start in midfield again. If you haven't made your mind up yet, then why make such daft comments? no i didn't say that. But carry on.

I didnt meant he needed time to get used to the Premiership.Im trying to say he might be a bit rusty and tired from all the games he played with Australia.Other than that,hes a proveng goalscorer. he's not going to be troubling the top scorer charts, in fairness.

I never thought we'd get excuses made for him that he needed time to get used to the Premiership. He's been here for fucking years!

2 right backs. We'll never get away with that, someone'll notice.

yup, they want to be us.

Yes, yes i can. Can't we all, as football fans? As for Carr, an AVERAGE right back would be far better. If you are saying that is a difficult task for a competent manager to find, and buy, a better right back than Stephen Carr, you are either as mad as a particularly crazed scotsman, or Stephen Carrs mam. I see buying an AVERAGE right-back as a pointless waste of money though. i don't. We're an average club, so average players should be our minimum. We currenly have a s**** right back. That, simply put, cannot continue. Weren't you whining in another thread about Geremi playing in the middle? If you are happy with an average RB, what was your problem with Geremi assuming you don't think he's utter shit? i thought he was utter shit on Saturday. I don't think he is actually a shit player, Geremi, he has yet to prove either way whether he is good enough or not.

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Yes, yes i can. Can't we all, as football fans? As for Carr, an AVERAGE right back would be far better. If you are saying that is a difficult task for a competent manager to find, and buy, a better right back than Stephen Carr, you are either as mad as a particularly crazed scotsman, or Stephen Carrs mam. I see buying an AVERAGE right-back as a pointless waste of money though. i don't. We're an average club, so average players should be our minimum. We currenly have a shite right back. That, simply put, cannot continue.

If he's happy, then he's an idiot. If he's just saying it to keep players happy until he finds better,fair enough. The fact that he looks to have been attempting to sign Beletti and Faye would suggest he knows it needs improvement. we don't know how seriously he's chased anyone, of course. Hardly much point in discussing anything to do with proposed transfers if you take that view though. Howay man mate, I think it's fairly likely he's looked at the RB spot. I think it's fair enough he's played Carr there too. Other options are available to him but he probably he conceivably thinks we need Taylor in the middle and Geremi is required there too. Solano is an option too but I think that leaving out a player who has expressed a desire to leave the club sends out the right message to the squad as a whole. And while Solano did well there at times last season (and I like Solano a lot), he wasn't the revelation there some would have you believe. Just my two-penneth and I'm not for a moment saying playing Carr at right-back is anything like ideal. in fairness, if he plays liek did on Saturday again, i'd not let Geremi anywhere near the centre of midfield again. Who did play well on Saturday, other than Harper. One bad game? Get a grip man. Get a grip? He's had one ok game, and one shit one. I KNOW it's too early to say he's no good, but its equally too early to say he's great. Milner played ok on Saturday, compared to the rest of them. Rozenhal also did well. And Butt did well at working hard ot fix Geremi's fuckups. I'm not saying he's great, I'm having a go at you for saying he's one bad game away from never playing in central midfield for us again. What i meant was that if he plays that badly again, i'd have other players ahead of him in central midfueld, and play him at right back.

Yes, yes i can. Can't we all, as football fans? As for Carr, an AVERAGE right back would be far better. If you are saying that is a difficult task for a competent manager to find, and buy, a better right back than Stephen Carr, you are either as mad as a particularly crazed scotsman, or Stephen Carrs mam.

No, "we" can't.

If he's happy, then he's an idiot. If he's just saying it to keep players happy until he finds better,fair enough. The fact that he looks to have been attempting to sign Beletti and Faye would suggest he knows it needs improvement. we don't know how seriously he's chased anyone, of course. Hardly much point in discussing anything to do with proposed transfers if you take that view though. Howay man mate, I think it's fairly likely he's looked at the RB spot. I think it's fair enough he's played Carr there too. Other options are available to him but he probably he conceivably thinks we need Taylor in the middle and Geremi is required there too. Solano is an option too but I think that leaving out a player who has expressed a desire to leave the club sends out the right message to the squad as a whole. And while Solano did well there at times last season (and I like Solano a lot), he wasn't the revelation there some would have you believe. Just my two-penneth and I'm not for a moment saying playing Carr at right-back is anything like ideal. in fairness, if he plays liek did on Saturday again, i'd not let Geremi anywhere near the centre of midfield again. Who did play well on Saturday, other than Harper. One bad game? Get a grip man. Get a grip? He's had one ok game, and one shit one. I KNOW it's too early to say he's no good, but its equally too early to say he's great. Milner played ok on Saturday, compared to the rest of them. Rozenhal also did well. And Butt did well at working hard ot fix Geremi's fuckups.

Ramos now backtracking. Nice conclusion-jumping though, well done. "But before midday, UK time, Ramos appeared at Sevilla's training ground to say he was staying despite receiving an offer from Spurs. Although a squirming Ramos initially sought to deny everything, claiming that he could not understand what all the "fuss" was about, he ended by confessing to having had indirect contact with Spurs. He said that he had not met with the secretary John Alexander and the vice-chairman Paul Kemsley at the Alfonso XIII hotel on Friday, despite photographic evidence published by the Estadio Deportivo newspaper on Saturday ." Guardian. ooh, that must be true then. Is the Guardian into photoshopping now or was that just an idiotic comment? have you seen the photos? I took them. Well done.

Just wanted to quote this bit.. unfortunately? Who would you play instead? He had a weak game against Villa but with Emre not looking likely to be fit he's probably the best passer available from our CMs. Again, we are judging a player on how we THINK he used to play elsewhere. His passing was awful on Saturday, absolutely chronic.

Aye, we were far better off under Roeder. Its been one f****** nightmare after another this summer. shut the fuck up, you wanker! far better off under roeder??? Yep, i'm with Northern Monkey and Baggio. Our squad is shit and Allardyce has basically done nothing to improve us. You're an idiot. And i mean that with the least possible respect.

If he's happy, then he's an idiot. If he's just saying it to keep players happy until he finds better,fair enough. The fact that he looks to have been attempting to sign Beletti and Faye would suggest he knows it needs improvement. we don't know how seriously he's chased anyone, of course. Hardly much point in discussing anything to do with proposed transfers if you take that view though. Howay man mate, I think it's fairly likely he's looked at the RB spot. I think it's fair enough he's played Carr there too. Other options are available to him but he probably he conceivably thinks we need Taylor in the middle and Geremi is required there too. Solano is an option too but I think that leaving out a player who has expressed a desire to leave the club sends out the right message to the squad as a whole. And while Solano did well there at times last season (and I like Solano a lot), he wasn't the revelation there some would have you believe. Just my two-penneth and I'm not for a moment saying playing Carr at right-back is anything like ideal. in fairness, if he plays liek did on Saturday again, i'd not let Geremi anywhere near the centre of midfield again.

Ramos now backtracking. Nice conclusion-jumping though, well done. "But before midday, UK time, Ramos appeared at Sevilla's training ground to say he was staying despite receiving an offer from Spurs. Although a squirming Ramos initially sought to deny everything, claiming that he could not understand what all the "fuss" was about, he ended by confessing to having had indirect contact with Spurs. He said that he had not met with the secretary John Alexander and the vice-chairman Paul Kemsley at the Alfonso XIII hotel on Friday, despite photographic evidence published by the Estadio Deportivo newspaper on Saturday ." Guardian. ooh, that must be true then. Is the Guardian into photoshopping now or was that just an idiotic comment? have you seen the photos?

if everyone is fit? Martins and Owen. Viduka isn't really good enough, neither is Smith, and Ameobi is f****** awful. The idea of Viduka needing a rest is a joke, as much of a joke as the fellas on here who were saying he's a great signing, he'd score loads of goals, etc. He's a fat, lazy t***, and we've known that for years. Viduka has certainly been very poor/shit so far for us. Glad you didn't want to start with him. Martins and Owen would be my second choice for Boro and if Shola wasn't getting anywhere i'd certainly be reverting to that combo. No height or physical presence mind, but i suppose we then have to play it on the deck which isn't nessesarily a bad thing, although not the Alladyce way. I know i have no chance of convincing you that its time to give shola a chance so i'm not going to. Do you think 442 or 433/451 ? who would you play on the right wing? I think he'll go 433 again. And no doubt he'll play Geremi again, unfortunately. If it were a 442, i'd play Milner on the rightm every time. You're right, you won't convince me about Shola - he's not good in the air, and poor on the deck as well. If he has to play, i'll get behind him, but i'll not be surprised when he's shit.

Again, we THINK we were chasing certain players, and to be fair we don't need to be told the full story. I'm not saying he's doing badly (although i don't think all of his signings have been proven to be right yet, time will tell), but it makes me laugh when i see the "he's brought excellent players in" bollocks. I hope he's done the right thing, we'll have ot wait and see. But unless we get a competent RB, we're in trouble.

If he's happy, then he's an idiot. If he's just saying it to keep players happy until he finds better,fair enough. The fact that he looks to have been attempting to sign Beletti and Faye would suggest he knows it needs improvement. we don't know how seriously he's chased anyone, of course.