Northern Monkey

he can play lb, but no better than Ramage. He'd be a good player, but he's not going to be leaving Everton now, i'd wager.

What a load of shite. As soon as he was fit, it was fucking nailed on that this would surface, without any evidnece, even tenuous, backing it up. Oh, and Tsunami - you actually believe something Shepherd said?? Jesus.

Why will Owen not be fit by then? And will Johnson be? i thought he was fucked again.

i don't know what he means. and media wise? Nah, i don't think so. Fan-wise, yes, we made some noise, but thats bound to happen with that scoreline.

no.

off the pitch?? You're reading a bit much into one game, no?

You don't know any more than he does tbh No, but I don't believe Mort was lying when he said this had been done as a response to dodgy behaviour on their part. yeah, lawyers never lie. What sort of response is upping the price?? in my book, either fucking childish, or stupid. Pull the deal, fair enough, but to turn round and go "nah, we want more now"...that sounds more like a group of people too used to getting their own way, not good business sense. I don't think Ahsley is stupid, not by a long chalk, but i think what he did on taht occasion was very stupid.

or parker?

get her some Heelies.

i know its not good for England (although i think we'll manage, despite the double whammy of missing him AND having that back-combed wanker as manager), i can't be the only one who sniggered when he hobbled off. Do any monkeys have brittle bones? Because whichever lab spliced human and simian DNA to make the wonderkid must have used the wrong ape.

Boooo!

Yeah, especially in the case of Dyer. I'd have snapped that £6 million out of West Ham's hands so quickly and brutally that they couldn't w*** again, personally. me too. Its about double what he's worth, and what we dod was f****** stupid. I was happy with £5m but hopefully Curbishley's stupid enough to give us £7m for Solano and Dyer which will get the deal done. i'd take £5m for the pair of them. Not so sure about that like... I mean, yeah, given the circumstances £5m would seem reasonable... But, you know... we'd look a little bit silly ditching both of them for a lower fee than West Ham bid for one of them. fuck looking silly, we looked like a proper cunt for doing the "ooh, now its 7m for Dyer" thing last time. things change, we can do without Dyer and we needed a new RB anyway, so lets just crack on and get rid.

As a player he's always been decent (bar the yellow cards, natch). If he can develop as he is supposed to be able to, he'll be a bargain. If not, it'll have been worth a try. But it's naive of us to trot out the "he's changed/he's not as bad as [insert bad boy player name here]" just because he plays for us. Support the team, support the players, support the club. But be honest. That's just the way i like to do my football.

Doesn't matter. The Red Shite have different rules to the rest of us.

people are stating his Road To Damascus conversion as fact, which i think is setting us up for a fall, is all i'm geting at.

Teh Daily Mirror.

And Dyer isn't even a winger (or, if he is, he's the worst of that bunch by a mile).

I don't think i fully listed his on or off field misdemeanors (spelling?? fuck knows), but i think its fair to say that he's proven himself to be a nut-job. What i'm criticising is people who put the blinkers on. If he's going to do well for us, and keep his nose clean, fantastic, but lets not pretend itsa given JUST cos he plays for us. Look at Tim Cahill: strong, gives and takes it physically, smacked one our players in the mouth - he's a cunt. Alan Shearer: strong, gave and took it physically, smacke done of our players in the mouth - he's a god to some. i'm not saying the two incidents are the same, but if Shearer hadn't played for us, he's be a "dirty bastard".

Barton? Not so sure about Barton. Barton clearly has anger issues and has times where the red mist comes down and does something incredibly stupid. However I'm not so sure he is a bad person as such and it looks like he is trying to change. On the other hand you have Diouf who dives, spits and just generally acts like a total cunt whenever I see him play and has made no attempt to change his ways. Yeah, stubbing a cigar out on a kids eye when you are a senior player doesn't make you a bad person. Spitting does though. Thats totally different. Barton was 21 when the cigar incident happened and Tandy was hardly a kid, only a year or two younger than Barton at the time. Not denying Barton has done bad things but atleast most of the time he is alright and doesn't act like a idiot on the pitch. He's "stormed out" of the ground after not being picked, started on-pitch brawls, bared his arse, attacked a team mate and had a pop at an Everton fan, resulting in an injury to another team mate. He was 22 hen he did the cigar thing, against an 18 year old. But hey, he plays for us, so he's DEFINATLEY changed now, and wouldn't do ANYTHING bad now. He's liek Ghandi, Mother Theresa and Dirty Bob Geldof all rolled into one.

Barton? Not so sure about Barton. Barton clearly has anger issues and has times where the red mist comes down and does something incredibly stupid. However I'm not so sure he is a bad person as such and it looks like he is trying to change. On the other hand you have Diouf who dives, spits and just generally acts like a total c*** whenever I see him play and has made no attempt to change his ways. Yeah, stubbing a cigar out on a kids eye when you are a senior player doesn't make you a bad person. Spitting does though. Thats totally different. Ya but the difference is Barton knows hes done wrong and is getting help wheres Diouf just keeps on acting the cunt and doesnt give the shit!To be honest we have better talent than him here already especially on the left.Would you prefer to see him playing ahead of Milner,Duff,Zog?I know I def wouldnt! Duff has been poor, and i prefer MIlner on the right, but i get your point. This smacks to me of another "that player is shite and a wrong 'un cos he plays for someone else, this player is determined/hard but fair/changed now becuase he plays for us".

The potential is overwhelming. I agree. If a front three of Owen, Viduka and Martins works well it would be delicious. Also, great to know that we could also slot Milner and Zoggy into the wide forward roles occassionally, to give Owen and Martins a break, or to add more width should we need to do so. Fantastic options upfront. 2 of the front 3 did very well, although i worry about the fat convict in truth. We shoudl have gotten Smith and a younger, decent forward for me. Although, obviously, anything that keeps Shola further away from the first team should be applauded.

Barton? Not so sure about Barton. Barton clearly has anger issues and has times where the red mist comes down and does something incredibly stupid. However I'm not so sure he is a bad person as such and it looks like he is trying to change. On the other hand you have Diouf who dives, spits and just generally acts like a total cunt whenever I see him play and has made no attempt to change his ways. Yeah, stubbing a cigar out on a kids eye when you are a senior player doesn't make you a bad person. Spitting does though. Thats totally different.

Who said you can't disagree? Feel free to disagree, just pointing out that successive managers from Robson through to Allardyce now, have seen fit to put Shola in their squad. That doesn't make them right or you wrong, just a professional manager's opinion will have more weight than Johnny down the pub. But Johnny's entitled to his opinion just like anyone else. especially when the managers were wrong. says Johnny down the pub... Correct. Which, as you say, is my right. Personally, i wouldn't let Shola onto the bench even, but if he has to be there, so be it. As long as we don't have to play the useless pile of steaming donkey shite.

Yeah, especially in the case of Dyer. I'd have snapped that £6 million out of West Ham's hands so quickly and brutally that they couldn't w*** again, personally. me too. Its about double what he's worth, and what we dod was f****** stupid. I was happy with £5m but hopefully Curbishley's stupid enough to give us £7m for Solano and Dyer which will get the deal done. i'd take £5m for the pair of them. Dyer isn't worth that, and i'd let Nobby go for nowt if he is depserate to leave. Mind, we HAVE to get a first team RB in sharpish, and Nobby leaving makes this even more obvious.

Good news. What an utter cunt. He starts it, he takes it to another level, he gets petty while SA remains dignified and now he says its unhealthy and wants to call a truce? Fuking sad wanker. It was Gartside who foraced SA hand by not supporting him in the transfer market, he's the reason it went stale, and appointing Sammy Lee will now see them playing terrible football with poor results, just about what they deserve, and certainly what the fans who dare call SA for his efforts deserve. I pray they go down. you don't like people who do their talking in the media?