NUFC06

1.Newcastle 2.Man Utd 3.Liverpool 4.Arsenal 5.Chelsea 6.Tottenham 7.Nottingham Forest 8.Everton 9.Aston Villa 10.Sunderland 11.Leeds United 12.Wolverhampton Wanderers 13.Blackburn Rovers 14.Sheffield Wednesday 15.Manchester City 16.West Bromwich Albion 17.Southhampton 18.Ipswich 19.Manchester City 20.West Ham

Oba is living on some other planet

didnt we suffer the worst injury crisis in our club's history although i think we should try our best to qualify because with European football we should attract players,also make a little bit more money from TV rights...

This seems to suggest that Portsmouth haven't applied and assuming Tottenham qualify in 7th that would mean we are only 2 pionts off the Intertoto place. Can someone clarify if Portsmouth have or have not applied I cant clarify but if this is true and Tottenham finish 7th we need to finish higher then Blackburn to play in the Intertoto,right?

Thanks I think if you take a good look at the stats you may find some interesting things like that Hunty played 7 games as LB and we lost 6 of them,also Bramble-Taylor played 13 games together as CB's and we lost only 1(against AZ) Everyone can make their own conclusions reading that stats

Franco Baresi

Drogba is one hell of a machine

Apparently he rejected us in January Dont want him here If we are going to sign striker in the summer i prefer someone like Viduka

Aye When Hunty was struggling at LB Roeder should have tried with Edgar Maybe he thinks he is not ready but the same apply about Hunty They both made their debuts this season and while Hunty played solid at the begining of his 14 games for us this season i think the last 4-5 he played really bad.Edgar on the other hand was more then solid in the 4 games he played for us Another of Roeder's strange team selection decisions

Most of the players in that team dont deserve to be there

I dont think Sibierski has signed his contract officially Still hope our monkey manager to reject him and buy someone better/faster Sibierski stats in the Premiership are shocking 25ap 13 starts=1goal 12sub=2goals And he will get worse next season

Milner

Congratulations Dave. He thinks we should spend big money on a left back rather than a forward. I think that is bollocks, and that is based on the fact that I have watched the team, as I have done for over 40 years, and can draw on this experience to give a view. And the problem with that is what exactly ? Aye a left back would have got us all 3 points against Chelsea on sunday Or would have opened up Arsenal the other week or Wigan away, maybe even the Charlton home game Fulham home, Bolton home, Sheff U home were all games crying out for a left back? No, we have very little going forward that eventually average sides score against us. A goal under the pressure that we have mounted in all of these games would have changed the game in our favour, either by putting daylight between us and the opposition and going 2 up or getting a goal when its been a stalemate. Our limited attacking options have been the problem all season. Its easier to blame the board for that though. I can give you 2 times more games where our defensive problems,especially the LB position has cost us dearly(AZ,Brimingam,Fulham(h),Bolton(H)This games where the most shocking when it comes to defensive problems).Also the constant rotation of players playing out of position at LB didnt help too much either. Yes in some of the games our lack of attacking power also contributed about our poor results. But when you look realisticly in the start of the new season we will have 2 new strikers(Owen and Ameobi).We will have 5 strikers+Dyer Imo our priority in the summer should be the defence.When i say priority i mean that we should spend around 70% of our budget in that area.On CB's and LB.Also we will need another CM,but i dont think we should be concentrating so much in buying a striker. Can you all tell me if we buy another striker where exactly he will play??? I want to hear NE5 answer if Owen and Martins are fit the whole season where exactly will this striker play? Dont answer me with something like Owen cant be fit for a whole season,please! I will say that Owen and Martins won't play together all season, yes. In fact, they might not play well together at all. No doubt this escapes you, as does the fact that most clubs have at least 3 good strikers, and we only have two. Through watching NUFC week in week out over this season, last season, the season before, and every season since 1965, and having seen what it takes to be a good team in the premiership [and not just in NUFC's case], in my opinion the biggest problem with the team is up front, keeping possession, and one thing you certainly do not do is blow a budget of a lot of money on a defender when you need forwards and/or strikers. The board slaters, the people who slate them whatever they do, would have a field day. If anything, if the club spent the bulk of its budget on a defender or two, and Owen is hurt again, it would be funny seeing the u-turns galore which would be everywhere. Or perhaps not. A quality left back and central defender would not make any significant difference to this team, but a quality striker and midfield player most certainly would. BTW, Bob Moncur, an ex Newcastle and Scotland captain [have you heard of him ?] agrees with me, or do you think he knows nothing about football, put against you kicking a ball around for a pub or whatever level you have played at. Why do you think Owen and Martins wont play together all season.If their partnership proves to be successful where do you think this striker will play? Even if they dont play too well we will still have Ameobi,Sibierski and Dyer. The only way we should sign new striker imo is if we release Sibierski and get someone instead of him.Also the ideal scenario would be someone who is on free(Viduka).We cant affort to splash more then 5-6m on strikers when our defence is complete mess.What do you think about Viduka btw? Also your statement that if we sign LB and CB wont improve our squad is just absolutely shocking imo. Also i must tell you something about football tactics.When you talk about possession of the ball you cant talk only about the strikers.Keeping possession means that the whole team must be involve in that not only the strikers.So your theory about signing strikers to keep possession is very much wrong Yes i have heard about Bob Moncur but i dont know as much as you about him,i admit. And about your last sentence if i ever kicked a ball and at what level i used to play football i will tell you that i played real football unlike you.Im also studying here: http://nsa.bg/en and in 2 years time i'll finish my education and when i do that i'll have the diploma and i'll have the UEFA's B license.If you dont know what is that here: http://www.thefa.com/GrassrootsNew/FALearning/NewsAndFeatures/Postings/2003/12/Becoming_a_coach.htm You might learn something you dont know. So there you go.You might support newcastle for 40 years and watch them in every game but when you talk about tactics,training methods,and about football in general you are talking like a fan.Me on the other hand have a little bit more knowledge about football but i dont say everywhere on the forum that because i'll have the B license nobody cant argue my opinion,knowledge.Thats just stupid If you think you know everything about newcastle and you cant learn something new then..well thats just sad I on the other hand think that i always can learn something here,also its nice to see other people opinions.Im not here to challenge anybody unlike you You are taking yourself too serious pretty...

Glenn Roeder

Another russian billionare wondering where to spend his money

Dunno about that like. What Ally usually says in the real world is usually the opposite so just based on this I'm going to have to side with Wullie. What? I rate Martins, but his finishing is pretty poor and he's missed quite a lot of good chances. Ditto for Berbatov. He misses a boatload, very good player though. Not true at all but whatever you want to beleive. You only have to look at the games against us to see how many chances Berbatov misses, I remember the away game against Braga too where he missed three nailed-on sitters in the first half. His finishing is not great by any means. You are right. The last game i remember against Sevilla he missed a sitter in the 2nd half for making the result 3:2 to Spurs

If Bramble signs for Spurs i'll be over the moon He will take their defence to a new level... ;D

Agree with you I prefer to have Bramble as a back up rather then Ramage or Moore

I think you should read the thread again. I don't recall me addressing NUFC06 at any stage, I merely replied, and corrected him. That's what I'm talking about, prove prove prove. So you may not agree, for the sake of the thread which was a decent one you should have apologised, noone will suddenly think any less of you. I'd think more tbf. Wow, I don't believe it. Your avatar is exactly how I imagine NE5. http://www.newcastle-online.com/nufcforum/index.php?action=dlattach;attach=4481;type=avatar Dont flatter him too much ;D His opinion of himself is too high already

Congratulations Dave. He thinks we should spend big money on a left back rather than a forward. I think that is bollocks, and that is based on the fact that I have watched the team, as I have done for over 40 years, and can draw on this experience to give a view. And the problem with that is what exactly ? Aye a left back would have got us all 3 points against Chelsea on sunday Or would have opened up Arsenal the other week or Wigan away, maybe even the Charlton home game Fulham home, Bolton home, Sheff U home were all games crying out for a left back? No, we have very little going forward that eventually average sides score against us. A goal under the pressure that we have mounted in all of these games would have changed the game in our favour, either by putting daylight between us and the opposition and going 2 up or getting a goal when its been a stalemate. Our limited attacking options have been the problem all season. Its easier to blame the board for that though. I can give you 2 times more games where our defensive problems,especially the LB position has cost us dearly(AZ,Brimingam,Fulham(h),Bolton(H)This games where the most shocking when it comes to defensive problems).Also the constant rotation of players playing out of position at LB didnt help too much either. Yes in some of the games our lack of attacking power also contributed about our poor results. But when you look realisticly in the start of the new season we will have 2 new strikers(Owen and Ameobi).We will have 5 strikers+Dyer Imo our priority in the summer should be the defence.When i say priority i mean that we should spend around 70% of our budget in that area.On CB's and LB.Also we will need another CM,but i dont think we should be concentrating so much in buying a striker. Can you all tell me if we buy another striker where exactly he will play??? I want to hear NE5 answer if Owen and Martins are fit the whole season where exactly will this striker play? Dont answer me with something like Owen cant be fit for a whole season,please! Dont worry, i'll just point out how i can see how NE5 got irritated with you. Taking the prem games only as e.g's, Fulham and Bolton were both games where we were leading and should have killed the game off with a second goal. Our lack of attacking opps meant that they were always in with a chance of getting back into the game. If we had had better options we could have turned the pressure we had into goals. Diouf's goals came from mistakes by Bramble so a LB would have made no difference. You see the s**** man u had at the back last night? Evra was worst player on pitch so not exacly a key position in terms of winning games. Sure they could have won 3-1 with a better one. The things you said are true but: when you point that it was Bramble's fault for losing against Bolton you will see that i said we need to strenghten the defence not only the LB position Also if Man Utd lose the 2nd game in Milano 1:0 they will be out and that Evra mistake will be fatal.Also in the 2nd leg Man Utd will have to defend more therefore their success will depends on how good their defence is

I think if you watch the AZ's first goal you will see that in the first place it was more Bramble's mistake then Taylor's Bramble tried to leave one of the forwards offside,that didnt work out,then Hunty was slow to close the cross and after that it was mostly Taylor's fault that he didnt marked Arveladze who scored For the 2nd goal it was 100% Bramble's fault because he lost his man before the corner And finally the fact that Bramble was made the scapegoat is because he was doing this amateurs mistakes for 4-5 years already.It was time that he takes the blame(of course i dont support the idiotic manner of which Roeder criticized Bramble in public). Point is Taylor was shocking against Alkmaar. Who was worse is debatable but Bramble was made scapegoat. Taylor also conceded a stupid penalty at 4-1, which he's always liable to do with the habit he has of closing people down with his arms flapping at his sides to try and widen his body. Skeletor - Great tackle by Bramble. Dave - What a tackle from Bramble. f****** ace. johnnypd - bad defending once again, saved by a top-class tackle by bramble. nufc 4 life - f****** hell bramble pure class Newcastle Fan - This is the best Tackle i EVER saw Bramble make The College Dropout - Well done Titus. Phil K - Just popped downstairs and saw a magnificent goal saving tackle from Bramble. Superb. Yorkie-Geordie - I'm usually the first to lay into Bramble, but he had about half a second to stop the ball from going in there. GeJon - Bramble made (imo) as good a tackle as you will ever see, that was a goal all the way without a complete f*** up of a finish or a world class save! markluk - that tackle was amazing Superb game, excellent tackle to stop the attacker clean through toonarmy - that bramble tackle was shockingly good Yorkie-Geordie - Practically perfect performance from Bramble. He was an absolute rock. His sliding tackles, his headers, his marking, everything - was fantastic. Thought he was a bit wayward for their first goal but other than that, he was just fantastic gray - bramble was pretty much quality tonight Wullie - I'm going to be Ronaldo-tastic and say Bramble's tackle was one of the finest I've seen in years Ronaldo - 4 excellent games in a row now for Titus. In terms of aerial and tackling ability, none of our other defenders can touch him. And when was the last time he made a notable error that cost us? Howaythelads - Well done Bramble. Had a really good game. Good job he didn't do what Taylor managed, otherwise we'd be on page 100 by now. Northern Monkey - Taylor: 5 - Wasn't a penalty, but got himslef lost a few times. Bramble: 7 - Best game for a while against decent opposition, but was positionally caught out a couple of times. Did well, though. Carr: 4 - get to f***, you fat waste of space. Roeder, you're a cretin. CoachHTT - One of his best performances in a Toon shirt, that tackle was simply world-class, and had Terry made it... Decent distribution too. The list goes on. The point being he kept us in it in the first leg. The second leg if I remember rightly he messed up for one of the goals, but thats what players do apart from the the few wonder goals ( goal of the month comp ). Thats how goals are scored in football you know. Show me a thread like that about any of our other CB`s. Yet AZ was all his fault. One great tackle cant change the opinion about any player in the world Against AZ all the players played badly.Bramble was made the scapegoat because he is doing this mistakes for years now and its time he actually gets the blame it's time he actually gets the blame? are you kidding me, how long have you supported nufc? whats your point pretty?

I agree. I have no particular gripe with Shepherd. mackems.gif I feel thew board is collectively responsible. You may wish to blame just Hall, but I only ever have a go at Shepherd as he is the one who puts himself forward as the voice of the club. You seem to find it difficult when there are subtleties to other peoples positions. Do you also think the board are "collectively responsible" for rescuing the club from certain relegation to the old 3rd division, 15000 crowds, selling their best players, being unable to raise money from a share issue even to the amount that we sold Peter Beardsley to Liverpool for, playing in the Champions League, achieving 3 consecutive top 5 league positions for the first time in over 50 years, building a new training facility that previous boards had failed to achieve for almost a century, and expanding and developing the stadium which all the previous boards had also failed to do ? I don't expect you to give an honest answer to this, without dressing it up as a slagfest by the way. Which sums up your website and your almost permanent "copy and paste" posts. Is it possible that you could post something else about the club other than what you do, ie, talking about full backs, signing players, individual players performances, contracts, training and fitness levels, team selections etc etc ? I'm not surprised in the slightest that macbeth has been online and ignored this. During that time in the old 2nd division just before KK came i think the main man in the Newcastle board was sir John Hall(not Freddy Shepherd) During the KK period Hall invested alot of his money in the team and that was because of the fact that he loved the club and wanted him to succed.During that time he put the basic foundations for this club to develop in the future. After he retired as a chairman the board has changed too.In the main picture shined the face of Freddy Shepherd. As a businessman he developed this club too but he made alot of mistakes:sacking SBR,appointing Souness,Roeder,messing with the managers transfers(Rooney,Kluivert,Butt),not giving money to SBR(03/04,04/05)when we were so close to the tittle,his constant lies in front of the fans about signing 5-6 players and then we end up with no signings at all. Thats the main difference with sir John Hall and Freddy Shepherd. The first one was doing this due to his love about newcastle The second one is runing this club mainly because he is gaining money out of Newcastle Yes he might be a newcaslte fan like he is saying but ultimately he is willing to sacrifice Newcaslte ahead of his financial interests complete rubbish I'm afraid. Sir John Hall didn't even want to be chairman or owner of Newcastle United. He was the figurehead of a takeover group that wanted to take over from a s**** board that had ruined the club for almost 30 years, and ended up in the position where he had to protect his company. As the club was selling its best players, was looking at relegation to the old 3rd division, couldn't raise money from a share issue to the amount that it got by selling Peter Beardsley to Liverpool, and was only half filling a ground that looked a rubbish tip with a capacity of about 30000. He invested nothing of any significance in the club, and he had a season ticket for Sunderland for years, as a businessman. The manager during the time that he was chairman, was chosen, and persuaded to take the job, by Hall Jnr, Shepherd and Freddie Fletcher. Sir John Hall didn't want Keegan, he was outvoted by his fellow directors/major shareholders. You can tell me any director or owner of a club who isn't out for personal gain of some sort, there are not many. So. You are talking bollocks mate. You have shown you know nothing whatsoever about Newcastle United, and so far as I am concerned, the sooner you bugger off back to Bulgaria and / or listen to people like me that DO know about the club, so much the better. Don't bother disputing my knowledge of the club again. It dwarfs yours, and unless you can say anything of any significance whatsoever, I will just ignore you. BTW - that post was for macbeth. Let him answer it. When sir John Hall entered Newcastle's history in early 1992 i was 8 years old and was pretty much in the dark about what really happened back then. OK maybe alot of the things a wrote there are not true and i must addmit that im not aware of the situation back then. Nevertheless your responce just shows how simple minded you are,your way of thinking "Don't bother disputing my knowledge of the club again" is just pathetic.If you think that if you support/watch newcastle many many years more then me gives you the right to be right every time and that because i support newcastle less time than you i cant have the right to have a opinion and also have the right to dont agree with you -that is just mental. I also want to know who gave all the money about transfers when KK was manager? Who gave the 15m to buy Alan Shearer at the time?

I think if you watch the AZ's first goal you will see that in the first place it was more Bramble's mistake then Taylor's Bramble tried to leave one of the forwards offside,that didnt work out,then Hunty was slow to close the cross and after that it was mostly Taylor's fault that he didnt marked Arveladze who scored For the 2nd goal it was 100% Bramble's fault because he lost his man before the corner And finally the fact that Bramble was made the scapegoat is because he was doing this amateurs mistakes for 4-5 years already.It was time that he takes the blame(of course i dont support the idiotic manner of which Roeder criticized Bramble in public). Point is Taylor was shocking against Alkmaar. Who was worse is debatable but Bramble was made scapegoat. Taylor also conceded a stupid penalty at 4-1, which he's always liable to do with the habit he has of closing people down with his arms flapping at his sides to try and widen his body. Skeletor - Great tackle by Bramble. Dave - What a tackle from Bramble. f****** ace. johnnypd - bad defending once again, saved by a top-class tackle by bramble. nufc 4 life - f****** hell bramble pure class Newcastle Fan - This is the best Tackle i EVER saw Bramble make The College Dropout - Well done Titus. Phil K - Just popped downstairs and saw a magnificent goal saving tackle from Bramble. Superb. Yorkie-Geordie - I'm usually the first to lay into Bramble, but he had about half a second to stop the ball from going in there. GeJon - Bramble made (imo) as good a tackle as you will ever see, that was a goal all the way without a complete f*** up of a finish or a world class save! markluk - that tackle was amazing Superb game, excellent tackle to stop the attacker clean through toonarmy - that bramble tackle was shockingly good Yorkie-Geordie - Practically perfect performance from Bramble. He was an absolute rock. His sliding tackles, his headers, his marking, everything - was fantastic. Thought he was a bit wayward for their first goal but other than that, he was just fantastic gray - bramble was pretty much quality tonight Wullie - I'm going to be Ronaldo-tastic and say Bramble's tackle was one of the finest I've seen in years Ronaldo - 4 excellent games in a row now for Titus. In terms of aerial and tackling ability, none of our other defenders can touch him. And when was the last time he made a notable error that cost us? Howaythelads - Well done Bramble. Had a really good game. Good job he didn't do what Taylor managed, otherwise we'd be on page 100 by now. Northern Monkey - Taylor: 5 - Wasn't a penalty, but got himslef lost a few times. Bramble: 7 - Best game for a while against decent opposition, but was positionally caught out a couple of times. Did well, though. Carr: 4 - get to f***, you fat waste of space. Roeder, you're a cretin. CoachHTT - One of his best performances in a Toon shirt, that tackle was simply world-class, and had Terry made it... Decent distribution too. The list goes on. The point being he kept us in it in the first leg. The second leg if I remember rightly he messed up for one of the goals, but thats what players do apart from the the few wonder goals ( goal of the month comp ). Thats how goals are scored in football you know. Show me a thread like that about any of our other CB`s. Yet AZ was all his fault. One great tackle cant change the opinion about any player in the world Against AZ all the players played badly.Bramble was made the scapegoat because he is doing this mistakes for years now and its time he actually gets the blame

Congratulations Dave. He thinks we should spend big money on a left back rather than a forward. I think that is bollocks, and that is based on the fact that I have watched the team, as I have done for over 40 years, and can draw on this experience to give a view. And the problem with that is what exactly ? Aye a left back would have got us all 3 points against Chelsea on sunday Or would have opened up Arsenal the other week or Wigan away, maybe even the Charlton home game Fulham home, Bolton home, Sheff U home were all games crying out for a left back? No, we have very little going forward that eventually average sides score against us. A goal under the pressure that we have mounted in all of these games would have changed the game in our favour, either by putting daylight between us and the opposition and going 2 up or getting a goal when its been a stalemate. Our limited attacking options have been the problem all season. Its easier to blame the board for that though. I can give you 2 times more games where our defensive problems,especially the LB position has cost us dearly(AZ,Brimingam,Fulham(h),Bolton(H)This games where the most shocking when it comes to defensive problems).Also the constant rotation of players playing out of position at LB didnt help too much either. Yes in some of the games our lack of attacking power also contributed about our poor results. But when you look realisticly in the start of the new season we will have 2 new strikers(Owen and Ameobi).We will have 5 strikers+Dyer Imo our priority in the summer should be the defence.When i say priority i mean that we should spend around 70% of our budget in that area.On CB's and LB.Also we will need another CM,but i dont think we should be concentrating so much in buying a striker. Can you all tell me if we buy another striker where exactly he will play??? I want to hear NE5 answer if Owen and Martins are fit the whole season where exactly will this striker play? Dont answer me with something like Owen cant be fit for a whole season,please!

I agree. I have no particular gripe with Shepherd. mackems.gif I feel thew board is collectively responsible. You may wish to blame just Hall, but I only ever have a go at Shepherd as he is the one who puts himself forward as the voice of the club. You seem to find it difficult when there are subtleties to other peoples positions. Do you also think the board are "collectively responsible" for rescuing the club from certain relegation to the old 3rd division, 15000 crowds, selling their best players, being unable to raise money from a share issue even to the amount that we sold Peter Beardsley to Liverpool for, playing in the Champions League, achieving 3 consecutive top 5 league positions for the first time in over 50 years, building a new training facility that previous boards had failed to achieve for almost a century, and expanding and developing the stadium which all the previous boards had also failed to do ? I don't expect you to give an honest answer to this, without dressing it up as a slagfest by the way. Which sums up your website and your almost permanent "copy and paste" posts. Is it possible that you could post something else about the club other than what you do, ie, talking about full backs, signing players, individual players performances, contracts, training and fitness levels, team selections etc etc ? I'm not surprised in the slightest that macbeth has been online and ignored this. During that time in the old 2nd division just before KK came i think the main man in the Newcastle board was sir John Hall(not Freddy Shepherd) During the KK period Hall invested alot of his money in the team and that was because of the fact that he loved the club and wanted him to succed.During that time he put the basic foundations for this club to develop in the future. After he retired as a chairman the board has changed too.In the main picture shined the face of Freddy Shepherd. As a businessman he developed this club too but he made alot of mistakes:sacking SBR,appointing Souness,Roeder,messing with the managers transfers(Rooney,Kluivert,Butt),not giving money to SBR(03/04,04/05)when we were so close to the tittle,his constant lies in front of the fans about signing 5-6 players and then we end up with no signings at all. Thats the main difference with sir John Hall and Freddy Shepherd. The first one was doing this due to his love about newcastle The second one is runing this club mainly because he is gaining money out of Newcastle Yes he might be a newcaslte fan like he is saying but ultimately he is willing to sacrifice Newcaslte ahead of his financial interests