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Wilky

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  1. probably a silly question, but is advertising not an option? I've seen some two bit football sites on the net with far less members than this have advertising. With the amount of local folk on here, I'd have thought local businesses would be interested. NUFC.com proves there is a market for it amongst toon fans; surely after that this is the most visited non-official site on the net?
  2. I would argue high attendances and a good start to the league are the reasons any deal has not gone through. Ashley won't sell whilst those two situations remain as they are.
  3. I know it's about a 10k gap, but there's still atleast 35k loyal supporters. Oh without doubt the attendances are brilliant and hats off to those going. Im just saying those 1000s that are no longer going because we went down shouldnt even be welcomed back. Plenty of fans who dont live near Newcastle would still absolutely love to be at every game this season. if they wanted it that much they stick out studying in the likes if sunderland eh ? Oh :lol: I see what you did there :lol: Good one madras :lol: well ffs what do you expect when a club gets relegated,still pulls in over 40,000 for home games,sells out its away alloocation weeks in advance in a recession and you say it shows how many fickle fans we have. Im saying we were getting over 50k in Prem, it is nearly roughly 10k less now in the CCC and when we go back up you can bet it will be above 50k again. Are those fans refusing to stand by the team when we are in this league not fickle? Also I fully believe our fans are great, but only those who still support the team the same way they did before when we were in the Premiership. Put it like this. If I had a season ticket for years, then we went down I came on here and said "aw f*** this, I cant be arsed going to Championship games, im going to stop going until we get promoted again". I would get ripped apart on here for being a plastic supporter. To be fair, we "only" had an average attendance of 48000 last year. There were over 43000 at the game on Saturday, that's less than 5000 supporters not going. Taking into account that there's probably fewer away fans, you could probably make that about 4000 less Newcastle fans. Considering the situation with Ashley, I bet you there's loads of people not going to the game to protest, who don't want to give him any money (especially after the tribunals verdict had come on Friday). There's also the fact that there are a lot more games this season, people will not be able to afford going to all of them if they don't have a season ticket, especially in a recession. Correct. I would not consider myself a fickle fan, I've been to around 60% of away games since Jan but no home games. The January transfer window did it for me, why should I help Ashley reduce a deficit he has created through his own mis-management? I respect people wanting to go, but I don't expect to be considered a fickle fan. It would have been easier for me to start going again after a good start, but bizarrely that would make me more fickle. I'm sticking by my principles until he is gone.
  4. This is interesting IMO " "However, if we had had to address this issue, we would have decided that the publication of a finding by us that Mr Keegan had resigned because he had been constructively dismissed by the Club and not because he had decided to walk away, would restore his reputation and in evidence he agreed with that proposition." Essentially Keegan giving up on claiming further damages so that this report could be published. Never let the mans integrity be questioned again. Anyone attmempting to be anti-Keegan now is simply looking at any angle to justify their stupid statements earlier in this thread.
  5. That is as damning a verdict as you can get on Ashley and the way in which he runs the club. In fact the words used are as damning as you can get from a legal point of view. Questioning the clubs witnesses, the club having to change the definition of the word 'manager' throughout the proceedings. Keegan completely vindicated
  6. n-power were always moving out of the city - well to the Gateshead Quays as part of their headline office development, in the current climate it was not deliverable and thus moved to wearside. That has nothing to do with the council. I can't understand how you consider my points as 'rage'. I'm merely pointing facts. As for the bid, which is the original point, I live in Leeds and I can honestly say I've not seen anything promoting their bid. In fact, other than on this forum I've not seen anything promoting any bid yet, other than the initial launch where Sunderland's bid was roundly ridaculed for including areas in Teeside and Tyneside. Maybe I am being complacent, but I cannot see Sunderland winning the bid, they don't have the transport infrastructure, they don't have the business infrastructure, they are not perceived as a 'cultural city', they have a smaller stadium and their last international event endured riots. Its just not going to happen. Newcastle is about as much of a banker outside OT and Wembley as you can get.
  7. do you think it's only better because of the likes of grey street or because the council and other agencies pulled their fingers out to make the most of what they had. thiking specifically of the regeneration of grainger town and quayside areas and the opportunities for commerce therein ? I am not 100% sure what answer you are looking for with question that is loaded with your view point in. Will you change my mind? No. Will I change yours? No. Will the people at Newcatle City Council change my mind if they up their game on current projects like Walker Riverside, Cruddas Park Flats Riverside Dene & future plans such Cowgate (plan number ?!?!) yes they will. So ultimately you have a beef with the council and the way in which it has dealt with social housing? You ignore every other aspect that the council has had involvement with to ensure our success as a city, Madras makes an excellent point - the Grainger Town project was very well managed. Like I said I have never had experience of YHN, my experience is generally commercial and to an extent housing delivery, but I must say, you fail to grasp the hurdles that have been placed not just on Newcastle City Council but every council in the country with deliverability. Meeting government targets in regional spatial strategies with the key points of Planning policy statement 3 endures a mountain of red tape; the council has just purchased the old Swan Hunter shipyard so it can hardly be accused of not being pro-active; you also have to remember that it does not have the funds to deliver projects at the moment and developers will not touch housing projects unless they reach a higher level of profitability than in recent years; borrowing has had a major impact and councils simply cannot gap fund every development.
  8. Not so much rage, just pointing out the facts. Places like Grey Street, Collingwood Street, Northumberland Street, Eldon Square are not the only reasons why Sunderland will lag. Sunderland suffers from chronic investment shortages, lack of demand and a council that has struggled to even faciliate the basic needs of infrastructure designed to bring it in the 21st century. Newcastle council is not perfect, but it has a better structure in place to identify key growth areas in the city and facilitate development. It certainly takes a more active role than Sunderland council in attempting to regenerate growth. Using social housing models as an indicator of which council is better is like attempting to argue one football club is better than another because they have a better right back (but the rest of the team are poorer), its just rediculous
  9. Gentoo are the most progressive arms length management organisation in the country. Watch the fuckers go in the next year a two already dabbling in some of the projects in Newcastle as YHN is clumbersome. So, apparantly there social housing is better than ours? WOW! Whilst it isn't something I've particularly noticed, and cannot claim to have too great a knowledge in, I doubt very much this will have any impact on a World Cup bid. As for this one, dubious, example of how their council is far greater than ours, what utter tosh! Sunderland council have categorically failed with regards to the regneration of their town. The biggest example was the debacle surrounding the Vaux site. Newcastle council would never have allowed Tesco to have purchased that site, as evidenced by there dealings with the S&N site. Sunderland council and Sunderlard Arc (known as Sunderland Farce in property circles) have failed dramatically to implement the required infrastructure to support businesses by providing grade A office space, quality retail and in my experience deliver new housing in line with national and local policy. Newcastle council for years have succeeded in doing the above. The council implemented early on the idea of developing the Quayside (which you have seemingly taken for granted), for years they have facilitated growth in the city that has seen it rise as the regions capital. Even now areas of high importance such as the Stevenson Quarter and the old S&N site are being secured for uses which will aid growth once the market returns. In retail we have a greater supply of property than cities like Leeds, never mind Sunderland would dearly love. The new Eldon Square development has attracted tenants which the likes of Leeds have been chasing for some time. You also mention Gateshead - whom, whilst artificially making a couple of nice additions along the quayside, you clearly have not ventured into their town centre - soon to become a large Tesco - something Newcastle council - quite rightly would not allow. Basically in a nutshell - Newcastle has the infrastructure - Sunderland does not. Whilst the council are an easy target, they must share some of the credit for putting us in this position over are dear neighbours.
  10. Wilky

    RIP sale thread.

    1) If trophies a good manager makes, then can we class Bobby's time here as a success? Also is David Moyes a poor manager? 2) Ashley's biggest failure listening to the fans? As far as I can remember the Keegan scenario came completely out of the blue. The fans were not clamouring for Keegan, it wasn't even considered an option. 3) The Keegan scenario has been analysed to the nth degree. It is a far more simple situation. He came in, out of the blue, was doing a good job with the resources available and got fed up with interferance in the purchase and sale of players (by a person with no experience in that type of job). He rightly walked, any manager would have. Caving into Ashley's rediculous job description would have undermined him as a manager and delay the inevitable.
  11. Is this thing on any of the national radio stations? Stuck in bloody manc land and streams are useless
  12. I really don't understand this 'quitter' slur that Keegan gets. He has left us both times as a result of boardroom interferance. He left Citeh because he was unwilling to commit to a new long term contract. (Clearly must have been doing something right to have been offered it) He left Fulham for England with Al Fayed's blessing. However because he had the nads to walk away from the real impossible job (Engerland) he has been pattered in the press ever since, and clearly even some of our own fans believe the quitter bollocks.
  13. That's all up in the air now, there's no way we can know. Again the timing of his tantrum has put us in the s*** there's no denying that. If he was going to quit along the line so be it, he could have done so in December or stick to it until May. He can shove his pride and integrity up his backside. I'm sure it makes him feel all warm inside Why wait till December or May? Thats a rediculous suggestion. Its obvious he had been promissed players in by the transfer deadline and this is what has kicked off the argument. He, like us had been strung along by the Ashley administration, if he had known about things earlier he would have left earlier. Even Wenger and Fergie acknowledge he was right to leave. Keegan staying would have been delaying the inevitable failure of the Ashley regime, he has done us a favour in exposing this gang of mercinaries.
  14. And if he hadn't left it would have been like sticking a plaster over a fatal wound. Honestly, some of you lot talking about not trusting Keegan, not forgiving him etc, its pathetic. The guy has done us a favour in the long run. This structure at the club was a ticking time bomb, better to happen early doors than towards the end of the season.
  15. What have we to protest against? Not the manager, we don't have one. And as for the owner, he's selling up. There's nobody to protest at. It sends out a message to the powers that be that the current situation isn't good enough. I suspect the more headlines we make in protest the more chance this has of having a swifter ending. If all was going well on the pitch and 40,000 rocked up last night Ashley would be holding out for his £400m. Just because the clown says he is selling does not mean people should not voice and show their displeasure at the way the club is being ran.
  16. As a couple have mentioned already I was more disappointed it wasn't less. Those empty seats are a bigger protest that any shoes off waving charver could ever muster.
  17. In the complete and utter absense of any suitable candidates for the managerial job, surely Keegan on a 3 year deal will provide said stability. It is rubbish to suggest we are waiting for him to go in a huff when things don't go his way. Any manager worth his salt would have left this club 3 weeks ago and KK has exposed Ashley and his gang for the clueless f***wits that they clearly are. Better to find out sooner rather than later. Surely KK would have been doing the club a disservice if he quietly got on with it and lived with the lies Ashley and co have clearly been portraying.
  18. Maybe I'm being naive in clinging to hope, or perhaps reading too much into it. But why mention turmoil and so called conditions as a factor in pulling out, especially on the eve of a match where protests are being expected? All this will do is inflame said protests, playing into the hands of anyone in a buying position? Strategic move by Ambani and co perhaps? Forces Ashley to show his hand.
  19. Can't believe this, especially after signing up for a 3 year season ticket. I've spoke to the box office and they can offer refunds for mitagating circumstances such as "moving to the other side of the country". I can feel a white lie coming on, I didn't sign up for this, as KK once said this wasn't in the brochure!
  20. Anybody tried to get this through BT vision? Rang them on the number provided and they knew nowt about it. Doesn't surprise me with them useless bastards mind. Have e-mailed Setanta, just hope I can sort it by Friday
  21. When it says "by Alan Oliver", what exactly is Olivers input to that article? What it should say is this is a public broadcast on behalf of Freddy Shepherd, that would be more accurate. I would call it shoddy journalism, but it isn't even journalism full stop. The Chronicle says it can't win but when it prints propadanda (which is what this is) what do they expect? Oliver himself stated a couple of weeks ago in one of his blogs to have a go at Shepherd was nonsense and there response on .com dismisses the anti Shepherd feelings as a "bandwagon". Surely it is the local papers duty to provide arguments both for and against Shepherd, thus satisfying everyone? Idiots!
  22. For what it is worth I think Curbishley could do for us what Martin O'Neil has done at Villa. Curbishley has proven himself as a capable manager with Charlton I would love to compare his record against Alardyce who most on here have streets ahead of Curbs. I doubt there is much in it, and Charlton are a smaller club than Bolton. Curbs took Charlton as far as he could, he needs a club like Newcastle to show what he can do and we have the opportunity of getting him for nowt. This isn't a Roeder short term solution, this would be an intelligent move from the board with little to lose compared to the current circumstance. My only worry is that if we don't take this opportunity and another premier league club gets rid of their boss and appoints Curbishley, then we really will be scratching around for a suitable manager.
  23. whilst I agree Roeder is not the man for us at a managerial level I feel we are being sidetracked at the real problem at this club, and it lies higher than Roeder
  24. Wilky 9 ok ok I may be a lurker and not much of a contributor threads wise but if the above could be done would be much appreciated
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