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Could we get Madueke on a cheaper deal than Elanga? If so then yes please. I prefer Akliouche though. But I believe that Madueke would thrive under Eddie in a more settled environment with consistent game time.
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It’s all or nothing for me. Take as much risk as possible while we can.
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I’ve said it before that I would much rather have Madueke than Elanga, even though he wouldn’t be my first choice. I think he offers a lot more in general play and against a low block while still being good in transitions. Yeah you can argue about his output but I think his overall ability and potential ceiling is much higher. I think Newcastle and Eddie would be the perfect place for him. Give him a more settled environment where he can feel more valued and I reckon he would prosper before too long. Give him that and I’m sure his confidence and joy for football would come quickly. Along with that his output and consistency as well. Im pretty certain that Elanga wouldn’t do too well at Chelsea.
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If possible I’d like to see us get rid of Willock and Longstaff and bring in about 30m. Go for Fernandes from Southampton and we should still be better off financiallly. Might not be as easy as that but yeah, not impossible.
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I’m not gonna explain anything to you Stiff. You’re the expert in this and most other areas. I assumed that was the case, that’s why I asked you.
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Well they can afford to pay the cost for that debt can’t they?
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Being good in possession and ball retention and controlling games better doesn’t mean that your team is playing possession just for the sake of it like Man City do.
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One thing that is massive if we sign him is having someone centrally in the last third that is a massive threat, and not alone, playing with Isak further ahead. With JP getting the ball high up the pitch it will force the opposition defence to be dragged out of shape which itself will give Isak much more space in the more central areas. JP often takes a man out with a first touch and turn which will give us and Isak so much more space and also not being forced to come too deep. We all know how good Bruno’s and Tonali’s quick and progressive passes can be, and having Pedro there much closer to them will make it much easier for them to do this more often. As it is now when we only have Isak centrally he either can get very isolated or has to come quite deep for the build up. This often results in that he can’t really be a a threat centrally as often as we’d like. With Isak coming deep it also indirectly makes us become more predictable as that results in us having to go wide most of the time because we don’t have a player up there when Isak comes deep. Quite often the space between our CM and Isak is a bit too vast. Unless he comes deep as mentioned. Also having two players in central areas further upp could also force the opponent defence to compress which at times will give our wide players more space. Makes it more difficult for the opposition either way.
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Yep agree. As well as the technical ability and awareness of space when with the ball. Goes without saying this really, just wanted to add it anyway. He’s pretty good in the air as well. Will never forget that late goal he scored against us when we played Watford. Absolutely gutted
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Wow this is gonna get expensive like if it happens…. This I’m 100% behind though. Obviously different positions but I’m all for this, while the opposite for Elanga for the prices mentioned. At least with Pedro there’s genuine quality there and a massive ceiling potentially as well. He has a lot in his locker. Would be a fantastic signing. I can see him going up a level or two quite quickly. As well as making us less vulnerable when Isak gets injured or rested. Versatility is key here. Can see us playing Tonali and Bruno in a double pivot with Pedro in front of them. Love the idea of Bruno and Tonali threading progressive quick passes through the centre to him without Isak having to come too deep.
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Talent wise he’s much better. Just a rotten mentality and attitude. I think the environment at ManU has meant that he’s lost his track. I don’t want him but I’d rather pay the money for him than Elanga if I was forced between the two. Don’t want either
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Yep no high lines against us from many teams. That’s when we will struggle.
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It would be. But less so than 50-60 for Elanga.
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Chelsea and Dortmund in for Elanga as well now.
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Would definitely be up to take a punt on him for little money instead of 50-60m on Elanga. He has talent. Then put the money in other areas. It’s not like Elanga is much better than Murphy anyway. Can’t lose too much taking a chance on him. I much prefer Akliouche though (more expensive obviously)
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I don’t want us to change the way we play. I just want us to become better in our weaker areas as well as having a bit more variety/unpredictability in us. A technical player with a bit more guile doesn’t mean that we change that much at all. Just have a slightly different tool kit. 50-60m on Elanga and people say we need more money….
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To improve and become better. We have done well but it doesn’t mean that we can’t do even better or improve in certain areas.
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I find it astonishing how many on here put so little importance to players having good technical ability and awareness and just the quality in general play tbh. If he can run fast and deliver a ball then that’s enough. It’s more or less what Murphy does, although he is not as rapid. If we sign Elanga it means we have put close to £150m on three wide players and still we are lacking in creativity, ball retention, unpredictability, 1v1 and so on. To me it’s obvious that we need to raise the technical know how overall in this team. Have more different tools and variety to our game. It doesn’t mean that “intensity won’t be our identity”
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He is key to them because they primarily sit back and hit on the break quickly. He won’t be playing the same way for us all the time.
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Either way, I don’t see this happening as they’ll want even more than 50m which already is too much imo.
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Really? I doubt it At least I haven’t even thought about itt that he played for them.