Jimburst

The government in both the UK and US used violence and the weight of the law against BLM protesters, the media painted them in both countries as 'thugs' and 'rioters'. It's also patently obvious that it is a grassroots organisation. You know this though, you're just annoyed it's popular and doesn't align with your views.

BLM is literally a grassroots response to racism.

What's the best way to follow the footy today? I'll be watching our match, I guess... is Sky the best place to be in terms of having live goal updates and stuff?

Why aren't we using it here? so silly

I reckon if they insist on this shite they should use the same technology, but have the lines 'wider' to estimate the inaccuracies of the technology, then if both these lines touch each other then the original on pitch call stands as it can't be an obvious error.

I did exactly this.

:lol:

Get one in January? For the transfer window.

Martin Tyler needs to stop this heavy breathing the absolute nonce.

You honestly wouldn't know we were the premier league team here.

:lol: classic toon

What's going on here then? Anything of note happened over the last 4 or 5 days?

What the fuck? Mad that.

Aye, obviously we all want to celebrate but it's pretty lame.

Wonder if this kind of thing is why people dont want this country associated with NUFC? Awful craic.

What you prattling on about? Again, nobody is doubting their human rights record. Nobody is downplaying it. We are just discussing the likely impact it is likely to have on the takeover. We dont need your virtue signalling in this thread, thanks. It was a joke and it was specifically in reply to someone who flounced off when I disagreed with him, ye div. The level of touchiness over this is getting into projection territory tbh, there's nothing in anything I said in my post that even hints at virtue signalling. I don't think he knows what it means tbf.

I buy fairtrade coffee like.

Actually you can, and absolutely everybody does. I care more about the morality of the NUFC ownership than I do the Uber ownership. I care more about the wrongdoings of the British state than I do the wrongdoings of the Tajikistan state. Campaigners who dedicate their lives to combating domestic violence care more about domestic violence than they do climate change. No human can possibly dedicate the same level of investment into each and every moral outrage. Picking and choosing is the only option, and if you reject that then you're arguing no-one should ever express any sort of moral concern about any act, which would be perverse. My argument isn't righteous indignation against the world, it's the Saudi side of things, you can't say it's close to home so you will be outraged by this but not about UK Government arms sales, usage of petrol, uber, Twitter, lyft, Snapchat, Deezer, the list goes on, all in use over here and I'll bet most of you if not all have used something on that list. Again, I want to reiterate I'm not defending the Saudis and I'm not saying this is ok, but I'm not about to jump on my moral high horse and vilify NUFC and boycott when I can finally reconnect when I regularly use Twitter, petrol, etc.. and have never been vocal about government involvement. My personal opinion is that I'd be a hypocrite to do so. So you lads would hate to be hypocrites but are happy to continue to support sportswashing of murderous regimes using your own football club? nice one. At least you're not hypocrites. Hows that hypocrisy? No one is advocating supporting the Saudi regime. I'm saying that going to football match is no more supporting the Saudis than say, filling your car full of petrol or any number of other activities. The post you agree with claims hating on the saudi's but still buying petrol is hypocrisy. I'm shocked you both find NUFC being owned by these people more palatable than being seen as a hypocrite. I don't think it's hypocrisy either way. I want to argue with you but I'm completely lost with our conversation. I can see you are passionate about human right and this very topic and that's honorable. I hope you find some way of enjoying your football whilst sticking with your principles. Peace and love brother. fair enough man, I won't flog a dead horse. Just think if you could have the perfect owner for our wonderful football club, would it be one who owns it so they can get away with killing people they're meant to look after? If you say no, you essentially agree with why we all think this is a bit shit.

Actually you can, and absolutely everybody does. I care more about the morality of the NUFC ownership than I do the Uber ownership. I care more about the wrongdoings of the British state than I do the wrongdoings of the Tajikistan state. Campaigners who dedicate their lives to combating domestic violence care more about domestic violence than they do climate change. No human can possibly dedicate the same level of investment into each and every moral outrage. Picking and choosing is the only option, and if you reject that then you're arguing no-one should ever express any sort of moral concern about any act, which would be perverse. My argument isn't righteous indignation against the world, it's the Saudi side of things, you can't say it's close to home so you will be outraged by this but not about UK Government arms sales, usage of petrol, uber, Twitter, lyft, Snapchat, Deezer, the list goes on, all in use over here and I'll bet most of you if not all have used something on that list. Again, I want to reiterate I'm not defending the Saudis and I'm not saying this is ok, but I'm not about to jump on my moral high horse and vilify NUFC and boycott when I can finally reconnect when I regularly use Twitter, petrol, etc.. and have never been vocal about government involvement. My personal opinion is that I'd be a hypocrite to do so. So you lads would hate to be hypocrites but are happy to continue to support sportswashing of murderous regimes using your own football club? nice one. At least you're not hypocrites. Hows that hypocrisy? No one is advocating supporting the Saudi regime. I'm saying that going to football match is no more supporting the Saudis than say, filling your car full of petrol or any number of other activities. The post you agree with claims hating on the saudi's but still buying petrol is hypocrisy. I'm shocked you both find NUFC being owned by these people more palatable than being seen as a hypocrite. I don't think it's hypocrisy either way.

Actually you can, and absolutely everybody does. I care more about the morality of the NUFC ownership than I do the Uber ownership. I care more about the wrongdoings of the British state than I do the wrongdoings of the Tajikistan state. Campaigners who dedicate their lives to combating domestic violence care more about domestic violence than they do climate change. No human can possibly dedicate the same level of investment into each and every moral outrage. Picking and choosing is the only option, and if you reject that then you're arguing no-one should ever express any sort of moral concern about any act, which would be perverse. My argument isn't righteous indignation against the world, it's the Saudi side of things, you can't say it's close to home so you will be outraged by this but not about UK Government arms sales, usage of petrol, uber, Twitter, lyft, Snapchat, Deezer, the list goes on, all in use over here and I'll bet most of you if not all have used something on that list. Again, I want to reiterate I'm not defending the Saudis and I'm not saying this is ok, but I'm not about to jump on my moral high horse and vilify NUFC and boycott when I can finally reconnect when I regularly use Twitter, petrol, etc.. and have never been vocal about government involvement. My personal opinion is that I'd be a hypocrite to do so. So you lads would hate to be hypocrites but are happy to continue to support sportswashing of murderous regimes using your own football club? nice one. At least you're not hypocrites.

Don't personally thing there's anything wrong with what Mr Misery is saying. He's completely correct in saying you can pick and choose as well. It's people who choose to ignore the problem here completely who are showing themselves up IMO. I'm delighted we're getting rid of Ashley, I'm not going to stop supporting NUFC but I won't stop calling out Saudi Arabia over their human rights abuses and I won't contribute to their sports-washing by telling other people to ignore it either. We can't choose who buys us, we don't have to actively support their intentions either. That said, I hope SA are sportswashing because they want to modernise and stop things like beheadings, discriminating agoinst women and gay people etc, using us to change their image whilst actually taking steps to change it themselves. Not because they want to keep doing these awful things and make us their cover.

Used 4 points to swap Barnes for Pepe. Cunts.

It's amazing, I'm all for it.

I support us in individual games and celebrate goals but would be happy for us to get relegated in hope that it would get rid of the fat cunt.