Mick

He's done shite, most of his problems are not related to injuries, they haven't made life easy for him as having Owen would have covered up for a lot of Roeders inadequacies. Here's my assessment of him and what he should be judged on. Use of Transfer Windows - Shite. Team selection - Shite Motivational skills - Shite Tactics - Shite Use of substitutes - Shite Training methods (judged on performances) - Shite Have I missed anything?

Give Roeder more time, I've heard it all before except the same thing was said about Souness. Roeder had screwed up two transfer windows already, why give him another chance? What have you seen in him that I have missed? He's simply not good enough, giving him another transfer window is asking for trouble and would probably end up with him getting sacked in the same manner as Sir Bobby and Souness, within weeks of the new season. Settle for shite and that's all you can expect, Roeder is sub-standard, he always has been and always will be. Duff is no feather in the cap of Roeder, he wasn't a priority and hasn't justified his wages never mind the fee. If the European elite were after Gooch then he wouldn't be here, fact.

You don't blame the defenders, get a grip. Hunty was shite in defence, Bramble and Taylor had poor games, all defenders, or do you see it differently?

Yawn Liar http://www.newcastle-online.com/nufcforum/index.php?topic=31537.msg663601#msg663601 Liar http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.sport.football.clubs.newcastle-united/browse_thread/thread/445e753ab7b336c3/88446718caeb119f?lnk=st&q=beermonster+shepherd&rnum=1&hl=en#88446718caeb119f Same patter, same lack of style and same use of "?" You’re embarrassing.

Another apology http://icnewcastle.icnetwork.co.uk/newcastleunited/news/tm_headline=united-have-no-excuses%26method=full%26objectid=18768880%26siteid=50081-name_page.html United have no excusesMar 17 2007 By The Journal Nicky Butt has apologised to the club's fans following Newcastle United's abject UEFA Cup surrender to AZ Alkmaar. And the midfielder is adamant that the Magpies faithful have every right to be angry with the players. Butt was blunt and forthright as he emerged from a tense away dressing room at the DSB Stadion and the former England international did not hold back in his criticism of the team's performance. As a regular winner of silverware during a decade of domestic dominance at Manchester United, Butt has more idea than most about what is needed to lift trophies, and he was livid at the manner in which Newcastle allowed Alkmaar to overturn a two-goal deficit from the first leg to progress to the quarter-finals on the away goals rule. But while the former England star expects a frosty reception on Tyneside for the next few weeks after seeing the club's last chance of silverware this season fizzle into nothing, he insisted the players were equally angry about what had happened. "It was the wrong time to deliver a poor performance like that," said Butt, who has rebuilt his personal, if not the team's, fortunes this season following his return from a loan spell at Birmingham City. "We had a great game in the first leg but we didn't play anything like that in the second. Maybe we thought we had already done the hard work at home and that is a fatal error to make. As a team we did not play very well and as individuals we did not play well. That's about it, we didn't pass the ball well, we just didn't perform. "There will be anger and there will be a lot of disappointment on Tyneside, we fully understand that. All I can say to the fans is that there is just as much anger and disappointment in the dressing room about what has happened. "We will be joining in that sense of anger. There was a lot of shouting and bawling at each other after the game. I understand if the crowd are angry and upset with the players because it's another chance gone begging. "We wanted to win something, we've done pretty well in Europe this season, but we've let ourselves down against Alkmaar and that hurts everyone connected to the club." Given United's involvement in the Intertoto Cup in July, there is a temptation to suggest the sheer number of games played by the Magpies caught up with them in Alkmaar this week. However, Butt does not entertain such a notion and the 32-year-old does not believe others should be able to use tiredness as an excuse for what has happened. He said: "We can't use tiredness as an excuse. I can only speak for myself, but although we've played a lot of games, the way we train with the fitness coaches, it's all geared up to coping with the number of games we have to play. "Tiredness isn't a factor for me and I doubt very much if it is for the other lads as well. On the night we didn't play to our potential and we paid the price for that." Newcastle appear to have little left to play for this season than a respectable league position and the hope that a top-eight finish will be enough to earn qualification for the Intertoto Cup if Chelsea and Manchester United meet in the FA Cup final in May, thus ensuring that the three available Uefa Cup spots will go to the teams finishing fifth to seventh in the top flight. The Magpies are five points behind Tottenham Hotspur in eighth place ahead of this weekend's fixture and a win at relegation-threatened Charlton is vital if they are going to lift the mood of their supporters, as well as maintain the pressure on those sitting above them in the Premiership. Butt added: "There might be a temptation for people to say that the season is over, but it definitely isn't. We have to concentrate on getting up the table now. We've got eight games left starting at Charlton. The fans will want to see the right reaction from the players. We have to get on with it and do the best we can."

Duff hasn't shown the ability you mention often enough, he spends as much time on his arse as he does on his feet. He's looked better in his last couple of games, that's beyond doubt, he still hasn't been good enough.

Yes, the pies. I didn't buy them anyway, not much of a sacrafice.

I'm not a business analyst but one drawback (if you call it that) would be that getting loans would be almost impossible if uncertainty surrounded the ownership of the club.

They might as well print the company cheques with "pay Shepherd Offshore" if they take over.

Well would you? If you managed to dishelve Roeder from your arse long enough to sit on a coach? WINK. HTT gets a kicking.

http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/6307/teethav8.jpg <-------The reason?

No, just you doing that should suffice tbh.

Why? I usually buy it myself, but giving money to the club at the moment just seems stupid. I've got three kids and they've had loads of stuff from the club, this year will be the first time in 17 years that the club will not get a penny at Christmas and we usually spend hundreds. I'll buy fake if I have to get new kits and I'll go out of my way to find them, the club can get piss off for all I care. For now they'll get entrance money and nothing, no pies, no drink, nothing.

They're so false, could they say anything that would change anything? Your attempt at the top might go down well, anything else would be so hollow.

If it had of been the other way around then we'd have been screaming for a penalty, we can have no complaints.

Our defence is shite but could be totally revamped with two players coming in. We need somebody who can fit straight in on the left and we could do with somebody coming into the middle, somebody who will organise and bring Taylor on as he's stagnating. We could/should have sorted this out by now, we've screwed up two transfer windows and that is shocking for a club of our size. When did we last have a good transfer window? My guess is that it was the year we brought in Bellamy and Robert, that's the last time we really spent money and had players who changed our season, we need that now. Having said that, I don’t think Roeder would get the best out of the players, he doesn’t come across to me as being very inspirational, he bores the tits off me.

You're a hero.

I'm pissed off about last night, it was so predictable, I wouldn't dare vent my feelings on here.

I know what you're getting at but I think we can save more money elsewhere by getting rid of players who have less to offer. I don't see Harper staying as lack of ambition, it could be but it could also be that he's comfortable playing close to his roots, that's something I can understand. You see him as blocking Krull, I see him as being a buffer while Krull learns the game, he's probably got 15 years left in the game, playing behind our shite defence isn't going to give him much confidence, Given let 5 in against Birmingham, what would that do to Krull? He's got plenty of time in the game and a lot to learn.

That's baseless, he's played one game. He might become better but I can't see how it can be argued that he's better now, not on one game.

You don't know that he has zero ambition, how do you measure it? You could say that every single player at our club has no ambition, if they did then they would want to be at Man U or Chelsea. Not every player wants to go to these clubs but it doesn't mean that they lack ambition. Harper might only be ambitious to win something with Newcastle, different people have different ambitions.

I can't see any problem with Harper, he's done very little wrong and has been unlucky that Given has walked straight back into the team when free from injury. Having moved away from home (the area) I can understand him not wanting to go to another club, it doesn't mean he has no ambition, it means he doesn't want to move away. Even bringing a kid in with ambition means nothing if he's not good enough. We are well off in the keeper department, we don't need any work on it for a few years yet. I've got loads of opportunities where I am but I'd come home tomorrow if given the chance yet I'm still ambitious.

I'd add Edgar and I'd probably keep Harper as I would hate to bring back a player who had retired, again.

So do you lie when you deny being those or did you lie when you told me you were Leazes and Beermonster on other forums? Which one is the lie? Have I ever claimed to be one of those you mention?

Don't buy the new strips when they come out, tell them to piss off and spend your money on something else.