biggs

woefull performances from the pair of them but Best was worst.

Nolan and Guthrie starting and any permutation upfront

Apathy has set in tbh

After tonights performance sorry non - performance i would like to see the back of him at the end of the season and its not knee jerk i just think he is invisible atm as i only remember him giving away a free kick and nowt else ,as far as goals are concerned he fed off Carroll imho and hes gone so thats it for me.

Totally despondent now as tonights performance is us till the end of the season ,Ashley you and your cronies have fucked up once again.

Yeah he will use his hair to help the forwards

'I managed to get away with him with a few times last year with a couple of friends of mine who are going to be in Liverpool and can help him settle in Thats nice for the lad ffs i bet Nolan is getting a bung off the bin dippers for this

Is that after Enrique,Barton,Collo have been sold cos there form has pushed there values up

Hope you dont offer to drink your own piss Dave and i will quote this for mockery in future

True and i expect a shit game too

"How did you feel when you first heard of Liverpool's interest? I was a bit surprised and didn't really know what was going on at the time. When I knew it was real and that there was a chance for me to come here I knew it was a great opportunity and I had to take it" = TRANSFER REQUEST IMHO

Apologies if this has already been posted but a couple of snippets of L.F.C website from Carrolls interview makes interesting reading How did you feel when you first heard of Liverpool's interest? I was a bit surprised and didn't really know what was going on at the time. When I knew it was real and that there was a chance for me to come here I knew it was a great opportunity and I had to take it. Nolan We know you're close friends with Kevin Nolan who is a big Liverpool fan - what has he said to you about this club? I have spoken to him. He is over the moon, really delighted for me. He said it's a big chance for me to go out there and show what I can do with Liverpool, and that's what I'm going to do. What jumps out for me is the knowing of the bid and wanting to go hence the transfer request so was he pushed Full page interview here http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/latest-news/carroll-the-first-interview

easy, turn him down when he asks for the wage he's worth Pardew says he asked him what he wanted and Carroll didnt reply but wtf is Pardew getting involved in wages for when it isnt his area but is it because he wanted to tell the M.D .

Not sure, in theory its a good deal on loan with relatively little to lose and everything to gain should he come good. Not sure i would like him perminently though, Would probably be talking £6m+ and his big wages(£60k+?) on the assumption that the next 6 months will be the norm. Big gamble then imo Villa say they want him back but player asks for a transfer after doing well for us and we are in the driving seat i suppose .

Bit behind the times mate

so no chance he might make an exception this case then? say he knows he's gonna spend 20m of the 35m on transfer, why couldn't he just arrange the installments on the outgoing 20m to align with incomings on the 35m? why wouldn't he? in a sense it is "paid for upfront" it's just not coming out of his pocket or another pot of cash from elsewhere just 'cause they said something once doesn't mean it's legally binding Just think they want it neat and tidy like Sports Direct stores

Never thought of it that way as when we buy players UP FRONT then that means the transfer fees will come out of our own pocket so it will be another loan from fatman or other income .

Most clubs do it tbh but we pay up front .

Heskey on a free

The Club captain has no right to go on LFC website and do what he did. Its a f***ing disgrace and shows his paymasters a complete lack of respect. Tbh that is exactly what he has done and Nolan probably in the last few months has been closer to Carroll than anyone and will be privvy to things we dont know about ant that is why he has done it ,it is totally out of order and unprofessional of him to do the L.F.C website interview and either he is very niave or calculating your guess is as good as mine .Nolan for me for the most part has been a driving force for our club this season and showed great character througout a troubling time (Houghton) and he and the senior players have been great but now i wonder if the tide is turning after Pardews comments " Pardew is “worried” about Wednesday night’s visit to Fulham after admitting Carroll’s departure had sparked “disillusionment” throughout the training ground from masseur to top players. " .

Bloody hope not Yes he did. Heard it on the radio and seen it in print. I feel sorry for the players really. Just as they start to think the club is making progress, they as well as the fans get knocked back down to earth. Yet again they will have to resort to their mental strength and unity to push on. I wonder if this has damaged their relationship with Pardew. After insisting since he arrived that Carroll would not be sold and then saying he was involved in the decison to sell, how can the players trust what he says now. Hughton protected them - I think Pardew will end up alienating them. Nowt wrong with that quote IMO. He's just saying what we are all feeling, he'll probably assure the lads that it will be for the greater good come summer and that it is up to them now to prove themselves. Could have used a bit of word play tbh "dissilusionment" could be "down" 2 words with a totally different meaning but the message comes over to everyone with a more negative feeling about it .

Dont tell anyone but me a Wullie have a thing going but its a secret

Quinn,Goddard,Withe could all be in with the same bunch as the had a few years here and did a job as Carroll has basically come out of no where ,not saying they are better no way but tbh the thread title can be twisted as you see fit .

Bloody hope not

Ray Clarke