Dragon55544

FS should be on the phone to Big Sam but i got a gut feeling Roeder will be in charge next season and like the shit manager before him he'll be sacked and by then Sam will be in charge of another team probably ManCity who will be in the top 6 or there abouts and we'll end up with P.Jewell or C.Coleman. Maybe the fans should chant Allardyce in our next home game just to give FS a hint.

we will be in the bottom 6 next season if Roeder is still in charge.

I'd be gutted because Given has been a great loyal player over the years but i'd be happy knowing Given was being replaced with another top quality player

Yea i'd be happy with that.

7 wins in 17 home games this season. Fucking pathetic

I was happy when we didnt get him at the start of the season, Now im gutted we didnt get him. Him and Owen up front would be very deadly

Yea but thats all ifs and buts, Theres no way we'll ever know.

Tbh Roeder had plenty of time to get a defender, The reason we didnt get a defender is because Roeder took to long to decide which defender he wanted and in the end ended up with nothing. I dont think the Duff deal took up to much time.

and what is that based on? because i agreed with him once? And that was months ago about FS. Still avoiding it then Your theory is because a defender is higher priority, Any other player we buy is a s*** signing because we need a defender. We had 1 LW on the books who was 18 years old and Duff became available at a cheapish price. Your making out FS gave Roeder a choice between Duff or a defender.

Yea i agree LW wasnt highest priority but it was a position that had to be filled, Just because we didnt get a defender it doesnt automactically mean that the Duff signing was shit.

and what is that based on? because i agreed with him once? And that was months ago about FS.

You're basing an opinion on supposition, not fact. Ok we had £50m to spend but Roeder decided he just needed one striker, one lanky old midfielder a left winger and a young stirker on loan. You got me. wtf are you on about? The signing of Duff is not the reason why we didn't sign a LB or CB. As this is seemingly the reason you and others believe Duff was a poor signing, I'd say your conclusion is flawed because your logic is incorrect. Well we should have spent time and money trying to sign a left back or centre back. No flawed logic in that (awaits the excuse that it was Campbells life long dream to play for Harry at Pompey etc etc... then the "just because Roeder didnt want to sign x,y and z doesnt mean he is wrong" s****!") FACT is we signed a left winger and we didn't sign players in more vital positions. As much as you wish to excuse this the signing of Duff was a poor decision when as said the time and money could have been better spent elsewhere! If my sister had just got run over by a car and I ran in the house to get her a plaster instead of calling an ambulance would my decision still be correct because at least I managed to stop the cut on her finger from getting infected? I don't give a s**** about whether or not Campbell wanted to play for Portsmouth. You don't grasp the unavoidable fact that .... 1. The manager chooses who he wants to buy and if that's not who you want the club to buy doesn't make the signing s****. 2. You can only sign a player who is available and who wants to join your club. Signing Duff was a good signing because it is a good thing not to rely on a young player who has only had one decent season. You and others can bang on all you like about this but a good player became available at a good price for a position that is notoriously difficult to fill with any quality. I would be unhappy with this signing if it was fact the signing was made instead of signing a striker, a LB or a decent CB, but that is simply not a known fact no matter how much you may want it to be. It's pretty common knowledge the club had bids in for various other players that for one reason or another did not happen. Those reasons are f*** all to do with the signing of Duff. If hypothetically everyone on this forum agreed that this summer we need to sign (in this order) a LB, CB, CM, and a forward it does not mean that if we only get the CM and the striker that these signings are s*** because we didn't get the LB and CB as well. The quality you want has to be available and has to want to join your club and that's the bottom line. It's not an excuse, it's a fact. There it is, your apparent get out clause "just because the manager didn't sign the player you wanted doesn't mean it was a s*** signing" no but the fact he hasn't signed any quality defenders in 2 transfer windows means that he has failed. You can witter on about how hard it is to get players but players for positions we want have moved and some have for very reasonable prices to very modest clubs. I expect you to carry on hiding behind the "we don't know this, that and the other" but everyone else can see where we have failed. It's not a "get out" clause and I knew you'd latch onto that, given your limited ability to debate a point or even to understand the point someone is making. You can say Roeder failed in the transfer market because he didn't bring in defenders but that is another topic, this does not make the signing of Duff a s**** signing. Do you not understand that the time wasted signing Duff could have been better spent on trying to find a defender? Roeder himself said it is only possible to deal with one transfer at a time and the Duff signing took up at least a week. Yea but that doesnt make Duff a s*** signing. Just imagine we signed Robben instead of Duff would that mean Robben was a s*** signing because we didnt get a defender? Fact is we needed a LW aswell as a Defender Still living up HTL's arse I see then, whats the view like? We need a player for pretty much every position on the field, there are things called priorities and LW was far far down that list! So because i agree with him im up his arse?

You're basing an opinion on supposition, not fact. Ok we had £50m to spend but Roeder decided he just needed one striker, one lanky old midfielder a left winger and a young stirker on loan. You got me. wtf are you on about? The signing of Duff is not the reason why we didn't sign a LB or CB. As this is seemingly the reason you and others believe Duff was a poor signing, I'd say your conclusion is flawed because your logic is incorrect. Well we should have spent time and money trying to sign a left back or centre back. No flawed logic in that (awaits the excuse that it was Campbells life long dream to play for Harry at Pompey etc etc... then the "just because Roeder didnt want to sign x,y and z doesnt mean he is wrong" s****!") FACT is we signed a left winger and we didn't sign players in more vital positions. As much as you wish to excuse this the signing of Duff was a poor decision when as said the time and money could have been better spent elsewhere! If my sister had just got run over by a car and I ran in the house to get her a plaster instead of calling an ambulance would my decision still be correct because at least I managed to stop the cut on her finger from getting infected? I don't give a s**** about whether or not Campbell wanted to play for Portsmouth. You don't grasp the unavoidable fact that .... 1. The manager chooses who he wants to buy and if that's not who you want the club to buy doesn't make the signing s****. 2. You can only sign a player who is available and who wants to join your club. Signing Duff was a good signing because it is a good thing not to rely on a young player who has only had one decent season. You and others can bang on all you like about this but a good player became available at a good price for a position that is notoriously difficult to fill with any quality. I would be unhappy with this signing if it was fact the signing was made instead of signing a striker, a LB or a decent CB, but that is simply not a known fact no matter how much you may want it to be. It's pretty common knowledge the club had bids in for various other players that for one reason or another did not happen. Those reasons are f*** all to do with the signing of Duff. If hypothetically everyone on this forum agreed that this summer we need to sign (in this order) a LB, CB, CM, and a forward it does not mean that if we only get the CM and the striker that these signings are s*** because we didn't get the LB and CB as well. The quality you want has to be available and has to want to join your club and that's the bottom line. It's not an excuse, it's a fact. There it is, your apparent get out clause "just because the manager didn't sign the player you wanted doesn't mean it was a s*** signing" no but the fact he hasn't signed any quality defenders in 2 transfer windows means that he has failed. You can witter on about how hard it is to get players but players for positions we want have moved and some have for very reasonable prices to very modest clubs. I expect you to carry on hiding behind the "we don't know this, that and the other" but everyone else can see where we have failed. It's not a "get out" clause and I knew you'd latch onto that, given your limited ability to debate a point or even to understand the point someone is making. You can say Roeder failed in the transfer market because he didn't bring in defenders but that is another topic, this does not make the signing of Duff a s**** signing. Do you not understand that the time wasted signing Duff could have been better spent on trying to find a defender? Roeder himself said it is only possible to deal with one transfer at a time and the Duff signing took up at least a week. Yea but that doesnt make Duff a shit signing. Just imagine we signed Robben instead of Duff would that mean Robben was a shit signing because we didnt get a defender? Fact is we needed a LW aswell as a Defender

Didnt FS say there was money available but Roeder f*** about to much and missed out on his targets, Like the Huth and Woodgate situation. How much money though? We needed/need a couple of new centre backs, a left back, a right back and another striker. Ws there enough for all that AND £5m for Duff? TBF we did need a LW aswell because all we had was Zoggy. I think we would of had Bridge if the Cole deal was done earlier but thats no excuse for not getting players in. Im not sure how much money we had but i can remember FS saying there is money available

Another vastly over rated player.

Didnt FS say there was money available but Roeder fuck about to much and missed out on his targets, Like the Huth and Woodgate situation.

Im sure that £6m was from Fifa,Our insurances and FA insurances. Didnt Fifa give us something like £3m? The money we have had off the FA was £50k a week towards Owens wages, They havent paid a penny towards the medical costs

Get rid of Luque,Babayaro,Carr and Bramble then the wage bill should go down. I know we have to replace them but we shouldnt offer such high wages

Tbh i think FS could be lying about Martins being bought as Owens replacement, I think he's saying that to add a bit of weight to his arguement. I remember Roeder saying we need to replace Shearer and that we need to find a partner for Owen.

Dawson makes the squad so why not Taylor?

Thats where i stopped reading. The thought of Roeder here next season is unbearable.

FFS, Please explain what makes Keane a fantastic manager? He's doing well in the championship but people are going way over board. I dont get some people 1 minute they are moaning because Roeder aint good enough then they want a manager with no premiership expierence. As i have said before what makes Keane better than the likes of Steve Bruce or Mick McCarthy? Tbh out of that list i'd only take Big Sam the rest are just average, Jol aint to bad, He's better than Roeder but we need someone better. Well,its kinda simple he turned SUNDERLAND to a half decent side.. Half decent CHAMPIONSHIP side. As i said didnt Mick McCarthy get them promoted with a "half decent" side and look what happend there. How anyone can say Keane is a fantastic manager is pathetic, I guess some people are just easily impressed.

FFS, Please explain what makes Keane a fantastic manager? He's doing well in the championship but people are going way over board. I dont get some people 1 minute they are moaning because Roeder aint good enough then they want a manager with no premiership expierence. As i have said before what makes Keane better than the likes of Steve Bruce or Mick McCarthy? Tbh out of that list i'd only take Big Sam the rest are just average, Jol aint to bad, He's better than Roeder but we need someone better.

Fucking hell why is Roy Keane on there? I cant believe some people on this board. Keane has done decent in the Championship but so did Mick McCarthy and look what happend there. Steve Bruce is doing well so do people want him? Next people will be saying they want Niall Quinn as our chairman

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