binnsy

i don't think so, reckon he's just rested, we have alot more players in Holland than America, just rotating a bit to give others some match practice, i'd expect him to feature in the next game.

according the the chronicle we won't risk Ba and Harper.

for the technophobes and thick people when it comes to computers like me what does that mean??

Newcastle Sunderland rivalry goes further than football though, go back through history and they fought each other in the English civil war, then through coal wars and then shipbuilding when Tyne battled against Wear. this was written in the guardian in 2005 A rivalry with roots in kings and coal Richard Stonehouse traces a great enmity between fans that predates football Share75 reddit this The Observer, Sunday 23 October 2005 01.45 BST Article history At 1.30 this afternoon, about one million people in Tyne and Wear and an additional million more from the North-East's diaspora, will watch and listen to what they consider to be the most important match of the season. Yet, to the rest of the watching world, the outcome will be observed with indifference. The Tyne-Wear derby may be perceived by the uninitiated as parochial and unsophisticated, but like the world's greatest derbies it has a historical conflict as its bedrock. And if anything, as a basis for a rivalry, the Sunderland-Newcastle derby is the most legitimate conflict anywhere. Some of the great derbies are based on issues that are trite and irrational. The historical class difference, for example, between the Milan clubs - Milan traditionally unionist and working-class, Inter upper-class and conservative - is now moot, given the chairmanship of the right-wing Silvio Berlusconi at Milan. Their historical reason for difference has dissipated, as it arguably has for Juventus-Torino, Real Madrid-Atletico, and Panathinaikos-Olympiakos. The Celtic-Rangers rivalry has been written about extensively, and needs no elaboration. Other than to say that if football can act as a metaphor for international and jingoistic warfare, then the Old Firm is the most articulate. But the Tyne-Wear derby wins in its secular and concise regional conflict. It does, after all, predate football by 226 years. It is a conflict that has divided two cities, 12 miles apart, for more than three centuries. In the epoch before the 1600s, King Charles I had consistently awarded the East of England Coal Trade Rights (try to contain your excitement) to Newcastle's traders, which rendered the Wearside coal merchants redundant. People died because of it. Coal and ships were Sunderland's raison d'etre. But when, in 1642, the English Civil War started, and Newcastle, with good reason, supported the Crown, Sunderland, because of the trading inequalities, sided with Cromwell's Parliamentarians, and the division began. It became a conflict between Sunderland's socialist republicanism, against Newcastle's loyalist self-interest. A purposeful enmity if ever there was one. Unlike rivalries between other clubs, the differences between Newcastle and Sunderland date back to fighting based on the necessity to live and feed one's children, and benefit one's city. The political differences between the two culminated with the battle of Boldon Hill. A loyalist army from Newcastle and County Durham gathered to fight an anti-monarchist Sunderland and Scottish army at a field equidistant between the two towns. The joint Scottish and Sunderland army won - and Newcastle was colonised by the Scottish. It was subsequently used as a Republican military base for the rest of war. And while this is a lucid basis for two cities hating each other, it has, like every other modern-day derby, developed profoundly irrational manifestations. It has been noted that some Newcastle fans refuse to buy bacon, because of its 'red-and-white appearance' - the pinnacle, regardless of any jovial flippancy, of irrational behaviour. Likewise the past Mackem boycott of a particular breakfast cereal, because of the Newcastle-orientated marketing of its brand, is silly beyond words. However, these are benign occurrences. In March 2000, more than 70 Sunderland and Newcastle hooligans took part in some of the worst football-related violence ever seen in Britain. It was not even a match day. What the police called 'usually respectable men and fathers' had decided to meet in mutual territory with their enemies, to fight with knives, bats and bricks. Sunderland fans boarded a ferry towards Tyneside, found the awaiting 'army', and fought. One man was left permanently brain-damaged. Dozens of people were arrested, and years upon years of prison-time was sentenced. The continuation of tension involves a new sense of injustice. For well over a decade, Sunderland's population has bemoaned that they have been paying their local taxes to finance both the Newcastle Metro and airport. A perceived bias towards Tyneside in the regional and national media further compounds a feeling of inequality. It seems that history is repeating itself for the people of Sunderland, albeit in a less livelihood-threatening sort of way. Perhaps a more trivial, city-image sort of way. But this makes little sense. Let's just hope that despite the hijacking of the game by the corporate class, and the working-class ostracising that comes with it, there remain terraces from which Mackems and Geordies can vent their invariably abusive opinions of each other without violence and civil war. Why Mackems and Geordies? The derivations are uncertain, but both have theories based in historical political allegiances. 'Geordie' because of Tyneside's staunch support of the Hanoverian King George II during the 1745 Jacobite Rebellion - 'Geordie' is a common diminutive of 'George'; and Mackem because of Wearside's accommodation of the Scottish 'Blue Mac' army during the civil war. It is more likely, however, that the origins stem from aspects of the shipbuilding and coalmining industries. The Tyneside coalminers preferred George Stephenson's 'Geordie' safety lamp over the more widely used Humphry Davy lamp. And it has been accepted almost universally that Mackem is derived from the phrase Mak(e)'em and Tak(e)'em, coined by Tyneside shipbuilders to insult their counterparts on the River Wear, who would build the ships and have them taken away by the richer classes.

tiote booked, theres a shock!!

i've got a horrible feeling we'll be waking up tomorrow to find someone has picked up an injury

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i might be wrong but i think i read somwhere about his wife being pregnant and will be easier to get back from Holland then USA if she goes into labour.

With Biffa being overthere he's probably going off what he's been told there, he'll probably have no idea he's giving out duff info.

No its coming in handy, one of my best mates moved to Pensacola a few backs and is buzzing that he is going to the match, this will be useful to tell him where people are going pre match!!

Hopefully the club won't play the games behind closed doors like last season so people can watch the games. When the reserve games aren't on i end up stuck in the house with the wife watching crappy soaps! Much prefer freezing my bollocks off at Whitley Park.... Bad news, binnsy... most of them will be behind closed doors again. There is a guy you can email to request access, but its suppose to be if you're scouting. Nixon, I'll try and update as the season goes on, but I gave up last season writing huge reports as only a few people were reading them. Then later on in the season you'd see people trying to claim they knew the ins and outs of the Academy/Reserves on the basis of the write ups. I was expecting that tbh, no point me trying to email requesting access as the behind closed door games are during the day and i'm at work. I know we have the mackems home & away this season, i hope they are going to be played at SJP and SoL. just been looking at the fixtures for the reserves on .com and if they are right the games against West Brom, Norwich, Liverpool, Man U before xmas are down to be at Whitley Park, can see Man U switched to SJP and then after xmas the games against Sunderland, Chelsea and Arsenal are down for WP. the remaining home games against Blackburn, Everton, Bolton and Wigan are at the training ground. i hope that stays as it is as the 7 games which will be "open to the public" will include 5 of the best games.

True Faiths 2penneth on our away support...i must say i agree with most of what Michael says. I suppose we have to deal with the aftermath of the scenes at Darlington as they have been in the headlines since Friday night. Let’s get one thing straight on the table. This was 100% the responsibility of those Mags who ran on the pitch. I have read reports from certain quarters which has sought to put some of the blame at the door of Darlington. That would be grotesquely unfair. Estimates vary but around 4 - 500 got on the pitch from the stand that had been allocated to us. I didn’t see Darlington move. I’ve heard some criticism of the stewarding and Police arrangements. That’s as may be but the responsibility lies with those who ran on the pitch. There were almost 7000 Mags at the game and they didn’t all leave their seats. A significant minority did however. The shame in this is that Darlington should have been delighted so many Mags made their way to their stadium. Darlington are a North East club currently playing in the non-league. They are hardly flush with cash and a friendly game against us should have sent their tills jingling and given them a nice pay-day. For our part, Darlington have a good stadium that can deal with an influx of a large number of visiting fans. Its close to hand for us, the surface is PL standard and the facilities are great for the players too. For parents who want to take kids to see the first team play but struggle to find the dough to visit SJP, these kind of games are brilliant to give young children a real treat without breaking the bank. Basically, its ideal as a place for us to visit pre-season. Everyone’s a winner. However, if a club like Darlington has to shell out a fortune on stewarding and Police costs, the attraction of playing us is going to wear off very quickly. For United’s part, they are going to lose a place which would be great for a pre-season stretch of the legs. Everyone loses. Overall however, we have to acknowledge there is a bit of a problem with an element of our away support. Frankly, they are a pain in the arse. They aren’t funny. They are usually very young (15 - 20) but not exclusively so. If they aren’t being wacky with their shirts off, they are pissed up singing “I want to go home” when they have just got off the bus and they are, generally speaking boring, charmless and to be avoided like the plague. It may be me becoming a boring old fart but run the logic of spending a fortune on beer in some brick shed under a stand somewhere then throwing it all over your mates and any passers-by by me again. You crazy guys are so out there! They are generally speaking, a minority and can be given a wide berth. I don’t think they have any idea however, how unpopular they are. This element has been bubbling under the radar for a while now but with schools now having broken up, the availability of very cheap supermarket beer, a cheap first team game down the road easily accessible by public transport and it was obvious the muppet squad would be out in force. It is being wise after the event. I am certain there were those running on the pitch who were at their first ever away game. I witnessed a few of them getting a bollocking and the occasional slap from other Mags and I thought one was going to burst into tears. It will be interesting to see how this element behaves if they go to Leeds for the friendly at Elland Road. A severe arse-kicking might be coming their way if they show the same lack of respect to our hosts in West Yorkshire as they did to Darlington.

anyone know which players have gone over to the USA? Can't see any squad details on the likes of .com or the official site.

Hopefully the club won't play the games behind closed doors like last season so people can watch the games. When the reserve games aren't on i end up stuck in the house with the wife watching crappy soaps! Much prefer freezing my bollocks off at Whitley Park.... Bad news, binnsy... most of them will be behind closed doors again. There is a guy you can email to request access, but its suppose to be if you're scouting. Nixon, I'll try and update as the season goes on, but I gave up last season writing huge reports as only a few people were reading them. Then later on in the season you'd see people trying to claim they knew the ins and outs of the Academy/Reserves on the basis of the write ups. I was expecting that tbh, no point me trying to email requesting access as the behind closed door games are during the day and i'm at work. I know we have the mackems home & away this season, i hope they are going to be played at SJP and SoL.

Hopefully the club won't play the games behind closed doors like last season so people can watch the games. When the reserve games aren't on i end up stuck in the house with the wife watching crappy soaps! Much prefer freezing my bollocks off at Whitley Park....

Decent run out for the lads tonight, played some canny football in patches, thought Sammy looked very bright when he came on. Pitch invasion took some gloss off the night, what was meant to be light hearted banter quickly went out of hand, bloke in front of me ran on with his 2 kids!! Sadly the Darlo fans also coming on escalated things i think if they had stayed in the stands the pitch would have cleared alot quicker. Anyone have any idea what kind of team is going to Berwick, its meant to be a reserve side but they have played on thursday and half of them have played again tonight against Darlo. Are we now planning to give the likes of Shola, Lovenkrands, Harper, Krul, Jonas, Xisco,Ba & Jose a run out on Saturday afternoon?

chance for the fans to try and change his mind with some Jose love at Darlo tomorrow night.

is Mati Fernandes injured for Chile? Managed to catch most of tonights game and bits of their game against uruguay but not seen him.

Last time i went , all the toon fans were in Hogans just outside the train station. The ground is a canny distance from there. Aye but ill be parking near there and its canny for people getting off the train . Its only a 20 minute walk like. Last time i went we went to Hogans and as far as i can recall there was loads off taxis outside like Stu PS what time are people planning on getting to darlo for? i'm getting the 6pm train after work. couple of pints in Hogans then walk up to the ground. There's another bar (canny big with beer garden) halfway from the station to the ground, if its a nice night may go there instead. By the time i'm served in Hogans i'd have been able to walk to the other pub!!

thats my point though about it being a poor side, Lucas and Ramires may have played ok (not sure i agree mind) today and being some of the better players today but they aren't good enough to be at the heart of a good football team. i don't rate either player and surely Brazil must have better central midfielders than those two.

can't believe how poor Brazil are, one of the worst brazil sides i've seen. Then again what did i expect with lucas and ramires in the midfield, those 2 wouldn't get in Newcastle's team.

Liverpool are still "interested in Jose" but Clichy is there number 1 target.

Haris Vukcic is still the one i have the biggest hope for but along with kadar both need to stay injury free this coming season. Two that aren't on the list are Adam Campbell and Remi Streete, if they can live up to the hype then we have potentially two cracking players coming through.

Have to say, I've heard something similar recently. Id love to know where you heard this from. I heard it indirectly from Shola himself.

heard last night that he has been told he can leave and is free to find a new club.