Andy

Most of the Arsenal kids are better than our first team. It'd not have ended 0-4 if say, Colo, Enrique, Jonas, Carroll, Tiote and Barton had started. I dare say we'd probably have won it against the players they started with if we'd gone for it. A similar line up beat Chelsea but I bet people would have been saying exactly the same if we lost that one. I don't mind having priorities, it was a risk throwing on Carroll, Barton and Jonas but maybe he cared a little more than he made out. I still would have gone for that line up (or similar), as defeatist as it is to some people the league is priority 1, 2 and 3 for me. The main issue was right back, why play our shittest player up against their best player (in the starting eleven)? If we'd have a player playing there with some sense of tactical nous and timing we could have seen a different match. Granted, hindsights 20/20, but regardless on if I'd agree with most of the players in the starting eleven I was fuming by the sight of Perch's name in it. Fuck Perch. It's the first player who plays for us that I genuinely have started to literally despise. He's just so fucking shit. Er, Perch didn't play at right back. At any point. Left back, obviously. Perch played in the centre. Kadar was left back.

Most of the Arsenal kids are better than our first team. It'd not have ended 0-4 if say, Colo, Enrique, Jonas, Carroll, Tiote and Barton had started. I dare say we'd probably have won it against the players they started with if we'd gone for it. A similar line up beat Chelsea but I bet people would have been saying exactly the same if we lost that one. I don't mind having priorities, it was a risk throwing on Carroll, Barton and Jonas but maybe he cared a little more than he made out. I still would have gone for that line up (or similar), as defeatist as it is to some people the league is priority 1, 2 and 3 for me. The main issue was right back, why play our shittest player up against their best player (in the starting eleven)? If we'd have a player playing there with some sense of tactical nous and timing we could have seen a different match. Granted, hindsights 20/20, but regardless on if I'd agree with most of the players in the starting eleven I was fuming by the sight of Perch's name in it. Fuck Perch. It's the first player who plays for us that I genuinely have started to literally despise. He's just so fucking shit. Er, Perch didn't play at right back. At any point. Had a decent enough game, as well, considering the score.

This. For both sides again. I'm not normally one to whinge about refereeing, but I thought he was a lot worse for us there. One poor decision that went against Arsenal - Perch's handball - whereas I can think of a few that went in their favour.

Think KI and Madras are right here like. Allardyce constantly told us that Enrique needed easing in - there are probably quotes in the early pages of this thread.

Shoo-in.

Better player when he was Tiote alongside him to do his running.

Trés kind you owe etre a girl you The only part of that sentence I understood the context of was the French.

Don't know how good he's going to be post-recovery, but Ben Arfa with a broken leg on crutches is probably still better than most of our players tbh.

I think Real would be mad to include him in a deal. Exactly. It's Real Madrid. They DO madness.

I think Higuain's more likely to be involved in a potential deal than Benzema.

Because its generally unrealistic. He should have some f***ing common sense and realise that Ya Ya Toure is on over the top wages because they are backed by lunatic arabs. No f***ing player is worth 200k plus a weel. No one. Very few clubs can pay the overinflated prices for players, no matter how good they are. I bet Man U offered him a fair wedge. THis is exactly whats wrong with football, its all about earnings amongst the players rather then the sport itself. I can just picture the England camp now after losng to Germany, all sittign about smoking cigars bemoaning their wages. f*** off you greedy c***s, you have a repsosibility towards the game yourselves. Rooney has won every trophy there is to win in the domestic game apart from the League Cup, which he's probably not arsed about anyway. A move to Man City will probably guarantee him more trophies than he's likely to win at Man Utd over the next 7-8 years, as well as a shitload of cash. Add to that the prospect of playing in front of proper football fans instead of plastic cockney wankers and it seems like a no-brainer to me. Man City... Proper fans? They've always had decent fans rbf I don't even think they sold out against Juventus a few weeks back in a european game we wouldnt sell out a group stage waffa game either. If our ground's capacity was 35,000 and we had a team on the up like Manchester City's, we'd easily sell-out against Juventus. but there stadium is 47k? Was meant to say 45,000. Fact is, we'd easily sell out, as we have done in the past.

Because its generally unrealistic. He should have some f***ing common sense and realise that Ya Ya Toure is on over the top wages because they are backed by lunatic arabs. No f***ing player is worth 200k plus a weel. No one. Very few clubs can pay the overinflated prices for players, no matter how good they are. I bet Man U offered him a fair wedge. THis is exactly whats wrong with football, its all about earnings amongst the players rather then the sport itself. I can just picture the England camp now after losng to Germany, all sittign about smoking cigars bemoaning their wages. f*** off you greedy c***s, you have a repsosibility towards the game yourselves. Rooney has won every trophy there is to win in the domestic game apart from the League Cup, which he's probably not arsed about anyway. A move to Man City will probably guarantee him more trophies than he's likely to win at Man Utd over the next 7-8 years, as well as a shitload of cash. Add to that the prospect of playing in front of proper football fans instead of plastic cockney wankers and it seems like a no-brainer to me. Man City... Proper fans? They've always had decent fans rbf I don't even think they sold out against Juventus a few weeks back in a european game we wouldnt sell out a group stage waffa game either. If our ground's capacity was 35,000 and we had a team on the up like Manchester City's, we'd easily sell-out against Juventus.

Samuel and Woodgate could have been an awesome partnership in different circumstances.

Can we not just play him on crutches? Still be sharper than fatlad, amirite lads?

Didn't look like it deflected as much as the commentators were making out like.

Who's saying he should be sacked? Don't take things so literally. Being fair, the same could be said to you. Well... Not really. :-/ My point was regarding the extremes that are drawn in knee-jerk after every match... I'm aware that nobody is LITERALLY calling for him to be sacked. I've already explained why I felt the Ben Arfa substitution wasn't as stupid as people are making out, reactions like "Hughton: fuck off!!!" to a decision that was, in my opinion, more enforced (fitness) than tactical, are cringeworthy as fuck.

Who's saying he should be sacked? Don't take things so literally.

There's nothing wrong with questioning his decisions though, especially if we lose from a winning position. Were his decisions that poor? Jonas looked lively when he came on, and Ben Arfa looked like he was blowing out of his arse when he was jogging off the pitch - the lad's nowhere near fully fit. Neither of the changes shaped the outcome of the match as significantly as is being made out... It was Pulis's changes that won the match, not Hughton's that lost it.

You lot boil my piss at times like. One week the guy's a fucking messiah, the next week he should be sacked. Have a word.

What a load of shit. Have a look at every set-piece he's done today. Have a look at his midfield performance that he's done (sic), instead. He was a million miles from our worst player.

What a load of shit.

He hasn't been poor by any means, he's kept the ball moving nicely and hasn't been particularly wasteful. Not outstanding but certainly not poor.

Payback for the beach ball.

Who knows. In hindsight, I just don't think he was cut out for the style of the league.

How can anybody be "a tiny bit dubious" of Enrique nowadays? The lad is fucking class man.