ElDiablo

Nearly.

We really need Viduka to up it in the second half if we're going to do anything, he's the only one who has some physicality to him.

Why the fuck does Butt ALWAYS need to play the pass in the air? Just fucking give it to his feet you twat.

Taylor.

Fucking cunt Cattermole has fucked Barton and Beye now.

Plenty of time left, come on.

Every cunting time, wanker.

Fuck , nearly from Valencia.

Guthrie gives it away, lucky to get away with it.

Jonas buys one.

Argh, Owen come on man.

Good battling, we look alright.

True, he'd fit in much better in our team.

Wrong, a strikers job nowadays is to do a bit of everything, including defending from the front. Your definitions of what players should do are far too rigid and you're seriously missing the point about the irrelavence of who scores the goals. In your world striker D isnt doing as good a job as striker C, but if i said stiker D was actually an AM you;d be creaming over this stat. Sorry for the stupid examples. Fuck sake, a strikers primary objective is to score goals, nothing about having rigid definitions. How the fuck can you not see that goals are more important than assists, passing or any other bullshit when talking about strikers?

Goals win games.

A striker's job is to score goals, therefore 2 goals is a better performance. I said he would benefit from a midfielder who could pass, that is a midfielder's job.

You may think Martins is average and thats becaseu you have this misconception about his technique and other frustrating aspects of his game, he's an effective player. Its the Ronaldo vs Messi debate - productivity vs skill and abilty. Whats better 40 goals vs 20 goals, 20 assists? The stats say at the end of the day that Martins is directly responsible for the team scoring 40 goals, its his ability that has leas him into those positions, those very same positions that Owen hasnt got himself into and those very same goals that Owen HASNT created. You yourself have undermined your own argument byt stating the importance of a AM creating chances for Owen. Think about what your saying about the importance of an AM and Owen. I still dont see a valid argument why essentially Assists and goals cant be considered on a level playing field. Your assist argument is just agenda driven waffle to be honest. And why not explain why I have undermined myself? Owen needs someone as intelligent as him to make full use of his ability and we don't have that atm. I don't see where I've undermined my argument, assists are a big part of football and are important, yes, but Owen is a striker, his job is to score goals, same for Martins. Creating for others should be a bi-product. Martins is not a player who runs in behind and looks to recieve a pass through on goal, he recieves it to feet most of the time and turns. A decent playmaker doesn't have much to work with there. Owen will make these runs however and if an understanding develops then he will have guilt-edged chance after guilt-edged chance, we've seen it only in flashes here but it still shows he's capable. If you take Owen out the team you lose a huge potential goal return, one that has gone to waste in his time here as he's simply not had anyone intelligent to work with. If you're too shortsighted to not see this then fine, but don't moan when he goes somewhere else and begins to bang them in left right and centre. I'm willing to bet that Martins has scored more for us from being played through on goal than Owen has. Do you deny that a huge amount of Owen goals go to waste due to lack of natural football brains in our side? Look at Gerrard and him at Liverpool, the understanding they struck up was devastating. Martins is a good player but if you think he can replace Owen you're off your tits.

You may think Martins is average and thats becaseu you have this misconception about his technique and other frustrating aspects of his game, he's an effective player. Its the Ronaldo vs Messi debate - productivity vs skill and abilty. Whats better 40 goals vs 20 goals, 20 assists? The stats say at the end of the day that Martins is directly responsible for the team scoring 40 goals, its his ability that has leas him into those positions, those very same positions that Owen hasnt got himself into and those very same goals that Owen HASNT created. You yourself have undermined your own argument byt stating the importance of a AM creating chances for Owen. Think about what your saying about the importance of an AM and Owen. I still dont see a valid argument why essentially Assists and goals cant be considered on a level playing field. Your assist argument is just agenda driven waffle to be honest. And why not explain why I have undermined myself? Owen needs someone as intelligent as him to make full use of his ability and we don't have that atm. I don't see where I've undermined my argument, assists are a big part of football and are important, yes, but Owen is a striker, his job is to score goals, same for Martins. Creating for others should be a bi-product. Martins is not a player who runs in behind and looks to recieve a pass through on goal, he recieves it to feet most of the time and turns. A decent playmaker doesn't have much to work with there. Owen will make these runs however and if an understanding develops then he will have guilt-edged chance after guilt-edged chance, we've seen it only in flashes here but it still shows he's capable. If you take Owen out the team you lose a huge potential goal return, one that has gone to waste in his time here as he's simply not had anyone intelligent to work with. If you're too shortsighted to not see this then fine, but don't moan when he goes somewhere else and begins to bang them in left right and centre.

average? and tell me which great team on the planet would have Michael Owen in their side right now Yes, average. Would a team with two Martins up front get into Europe? Debatable at best. Get someone in who can find Owen's runs and he will score bucket loads. 9 so far in 11 starts and 5 sub appearances after how we've been playing the majority of the season is pretty fucking good if you ask me.

If we had anyone in the middle of midfield with an ounce of creativity Owen would have a shitload more now. By saying you'd rather Martins than Owen you're accepting that we're average. You can't count assists as goals btw, an assist can just be a regular pass to another player then they've hit a shot, doesn't mean he's created it.

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Team: Newcastle United Current Position: 12th Where did you expect your team to currently be: Under Keegan I would expect to be around 7th to 9th at this point, dropping to around 10th at the end of the season. Best player so far this season: Jonas or Given, Bassong has looked very good in recent games but it's still early doors for him. Worst player so far this season: Taylor has been poor apart from one decent game at Everton. Best game so far: Portsmouth away. Excellent team performance, built on a solid backline which is nice to see finally. Worst game so far: Blackburn or Spurs in the carling cup, both pitiful performances. Who would you like to sign in January: Bullard and cover for Beye and Enrique. Who would you like to sell in January: Smith. Thoughts on your manager so far this season: Done a lot better that I thought he would, instilled some confidence and is picking the team based on form which is a trait lacked in our last few managers. Has made mistakes and dropped some points, but is looking as if he is learning from them, hopefully proved by the last couple of results. Has come in for a lot of unfair shit too. General thoughts on your team so far: Liking the look of us at the moment, unbeaten in 6 and it doesn't look like it will end soon. The massive plus for me is the defence, we look sturdy back there for the first time in ages and that gives the rest of the team a platform to go and win us games. The midfield is still the weak point particularly the two in the centre, we were unlucky to lose Barton as I thought he gave the centre a bit of bite and also got forward much better than the two we have in now. Hopefully this weakness will be addressed next month. Up front we look good when everyone's fit but could still do with a replacement for Viduka and now it seems Owen as well, will be interesting to see who we go for. Where do you think you’ll finish from this point to the end of the season: I think we'll finish about where we are now, 12th. Hopefully we can keep this unbeaten run going a little longer and pick some more points up. The real test will come when we eventually do lose a game and to see how the side and JK can pick themselves up from it.

Think I had Batty on the back of that as well, the shit a kid would take having that on the back nowadays.

Juanito's looked a donkey every time I've seen him, would rather we steered clear.

Who are you referring to? You're off your head if you think I'm reading all these latest pages from the headline I take this as a come and get me plea to other clubs?