Chris_R

His hair

Why would he take a significant wage cut to leave the side he's just signed for, is doing well for, and is incredibly likely to win trophies at, just to move here? I can't even comprehend why this is even a suggestion.

How can anyone walk away? There's no club at the table for him now.

I've had my moment. 48 years old and thought I was destined to never see my team win a trophy, but that Carabao Cup win was it, just pure joy. It's all I ever wanted supporting us, I've had it and it can never be taken away from me. I don't need anything else, I'll remember that to my dying day, it's honestly enough and I doubt it'll ever be topped as a singular moment. So this cunt can sit in his house for 3 years for all I care. I'm happy. Fuck him.

From everything I understand, there's not a deal on the table for us to reject so I've no idea what the fuck he's playing at here. Are we expected to phone Liverpool and tell them they can have him? Are we supposed to suggest the price, or to just agree to anything? I cannot comprehend his thought process. Teams bid for players and get told yes or no. The "owning" club shouldn't and never has been in charge of driving the deal, that's just not how it works.

Maybe we spoke to him earlier too, but kept it quiet?

He was probably thinking "If I was playing, we'd be out of sight by now. Especially against 10 men"

He was probably thinking "If I was playing, we'd be out of sight by now. Especially against 10 men"

Annoying but I'm immensely proud.

7 points from our first 2 games would've been a decent start mind.

Oh we've got to play the rest of the match with no centre forward?

Or pay for it. I'll be tuning into my illegal feed seconds before kickoff. Fuck those cunts.

I really REALLY hope we don't chant about him directly tonight - that's what he and his agent want, they want a "no way back" narrative to force a sale on their terms. Let's not do that, please. Don't give him and his cunt agent any ammunition. That said, I'd love an absolutely deafening and prolonged crescendo of "You can stick your hundred million up your arse" - Doesn't say anything negative about Isak, but still gets a message across rather nicely.

What's he going to do, stop training and refuse to play? He's got no cards left to play.

That's the bit that really winds me up, that he's refusing to put that in and would expect a 'loyalty bonus'. I'd refuse to sell for any price because of that. At least unless Liverpool paid our asking price PLUS the loyalty fee, so they were effectively paying it.

I'm sure this has been gone over already, but aren't we severely limited to how much we can fine him? It's about 2-4 weeks, that's it. Then he can just sit and do nothing on full pay. I didn't say we should. I said we could. I can only repeat that I'm not advocating this as a course of action, I'm simply explaining that it's a valid option. As for his contract requiring him to knuckle down, that's working out great isn't it.

1) I'm not actually suggesting we do this. I've never said that. I'm simply outlining that it's an option, and a legitimate one too. 2) He's not adhering to his contract currently and showing no signs of doing so. If new terms on a contract of the same length encouraged him to do so, it's hard to say that the club don't benefit from that more than having him on his current deal but effectively on strike. Whether I think this would be a good idea and something I'd be behind us doing would require me to sit in a room with the player and have a good long chat with him. Clearly I can't do that, so again I'm not suggesting it as a course of action. I'm only saying it's an option, which it is.

Do you think there's any prospect at all that he's here in 3.5 years time? I'd suggest the chance of him signing a 4+ year contract are vanishingly small. He's gone sometime in the next 3 years. It's just a question of when, to who, for how much, and what he does with himself in the meantime. If we can help that last part by giving him better terms, it may be worth it.

Didn't say that's what we should offer him, it was an extreme example. Plus the upside to the club might be that he knuckles down and starts playing and scoring goals.

If it was a 3 year contract (or less), with equal or greater wages, there'd be literally no reason for him not to.

Yeah I'm about the same. My order of preference would be... - He eats humble pie, comes back and gives his all - He rots in the reserves for the next three years . . . . - Sell him to anyone except Liverpool, don't care who or for what price . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . - Sell him to Liverpool for £150m Selling him to Liverpool for a shit price is so far down the list I'd break the forum trying to draw it out.

It's gonna be "FTM Bridge", isn't it?

Always liked him, thought he was great on loan and deserved a full transfer. Shame it never fully worked out and that he could lock a place down. Still think he could've stayed and been second choice left back next year but can't bridge him a chance to be first choice somewhere. His record for wages per minute played will likely never be broken though.

Massive difference between "for sale" and "would begrudgingly be allowed to leave if a suitable bid came in, and only after we'd already signed his and Callum Wilson's replacements"