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Unless the current office block proposal gets scrapped, it isnt.

Oh well. I guess we are moving away from the current SJP site then.

If it could be proved that it could be moved, renovated and rebuilt further back as part of a completely redeveloped Leazes Park then I reckon planning approval could be given.

The point I was trying to make when I inadvertently derailed the other thread was that if Shearer is a legend then KK is something significantly higher. So let's say Keegan is a God. Personally I loved Andy Cole more than Shearer. Maybe that's because he was part of the club's journey from obscurity through to one of the biggest clubs in the country. And even though Shearer was hands down a better all-round player. I'm still not having Kevin Nolan as an icon though

Of course, I agree. Rafa coming here essentially secured the takeover and therefore he will always be a special person for us. But if he's a relegation rival for us then sentiment goes out of the window for me. And I cannot stand Everton so there's another reason I cannot want him to succeed there.

My thinking was that the toxicity could lead to Rafa getting the boot. I agree its very unlikely they get relegated with Benitez at the helm.

Probably right. I just want as many teams down there with us as possible and they have definiitely looked like being one. I maintain that their squad is average but, ironically, they have the perfect manager to get a tune out of it..i.f their fans just cut him some slack.

Icon definition : a person or thing regarded as a representative symbol or as worthy of veneration So Kevin Fucking Nolan comes under that bracket does he?

Its not a criticism mate. I'm merely pointing out that you had to really be there pre-1992 to know the difference that KK made to NUFC. He's on another planet compared to Shearer. And, to be fair, Shearer would probably say the same.

Not in my book they aren't. An icon is someone who excelled in their field over an extended period of time. So Shearer qualfies for that with ease. Nolan is just an average player who had one great day playing for NUFC.

Icon is a very complimentary term you know?

I will bet money that you only started supporting NUFC in the 90s. Anyone who puts Shearer on the same pedestal as KK is simply clueless and did not get to have the "experience" of supporting NUFC pre-1992.

Nolan an icon? Dear me.

We will have to disagree, I dont think their current squad is that special. Before yesterday's game our match with them this month was being described on here as one to be won. The result last night is a sticking plaster over their problems. Yes, their squad shouldnt be in a relegation battle but their support is so toxic towards Rafa that it could drag them into one.

Shearer is more icon than legend. A great player who scored lots of goals for us. KK on the other hand literally single handedly created the modern-day NUFC. Without KK there would have been no Shearer, no Bobby Robson, no 52K new stadium, no Rafa Benitez and therefore no Saudi takeover. KK made the club something that would appeal to super-rich buyers.

Bollocks. NUFC went down with a better squad in 2009 and 2016 and the toxicity off the pitch played a big part in that. Never underestimate the feel bad factor and its ability to send a club into a tailspin. All that needs to happen is EFC to go on another bad run, sack Rafa and then get a shoddy replacement for them to get locked into the bottom 7.

Have you been asleep for the last 6 or 7 weeks? Their club is tearing itself apart. Tonight's result just papers over the cracks.

Because his club have very much looked like they could get properly dragged into the relegation mire. The mire that we will be stuck in for a good while this season. Its not rocket science.

Their history is irrelevant. They are the most toxic club in the league with a mediocre squad. We more than anyone know what can happen when you've got that combination.

That is just because they seem to big a club to go down, but they aren't. If I could pick one surprise team to get dragged into the mire its them.

Disagree. Most fanbases have moved on from the Saudi thing already. Only the peasants down the road, Evertonians and the self-styled moral arbitrators of football, ie Liverpool fans on RAWK, are still harping on about it.

I like Rafa too. But he is now at a club where a huge amount of their fans loathe NUFC. A look at the many social media platforms confirms this. They fucking hate us and have done since the mid 1990s when they laughably tagged us a "Sky Team". They shouldnt be anywhere near a relegation battle this season but the toxicity of their fanbase could drag them into one.

Agree. I literally couldn't give a fuck about what happens to Benitez now. He's not only history, he is also a relegation rival due to the way their fans are treating him.

No idea why people are celebrating an Everton win. They absolutely detest NUFC and could be genuine relegation candidates this season.

First I've heard of the Barca thing. As I say though, NUFC were a Champions League side under SBR that were not far off being a title winning team. Turning down Man U was a mistake that he no doubt regrets. I've nothing against Shearer the player. But I just dont buy into his devotion as a NUFC fan. He's also an incredibly mediocre pundit. And dont get me started on his defence of The Cabbage. But the guy was an incredible player and, yes, one of our all-time greats.