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Why? because we protested BEFORE he came out with a statement. If only he'd told us something last week things would've been very different. I've some sympathy with Ashley now. I think he genuinely enjoyed being part of the crowd etc. If only he hadn't appointed such an unpopular man in Dennis Wise. If only Wise would just go. I'm not against a scouting system but ultimately the manager must have the final say on comings and goings. For me, the ideal scenario would be for Wise to go, Ashley to continue and bring back Keegan to work within a sensible budget. If we need a DOF, then so be it, but there must be a more popular one than Wise. Employ another. Let him recommend players but not bring them in without the managers say so.

True, but Wise should simply realise he's not wanted here and resign. He surely can't enjoy being hated by so many. Given the clubs financial concerns that Ashley's put across, Keegan would obviously have to be reasonable in deamanding transfer money. Granted we should watch what we're spending, but smaller clubs seem to get by on half the gate money, shirt sales etc than we do.

and that makes him right ? I'm pretty sure Keith loves this club and is genuinely unhappy about the current farce. Don't think he was merely attention seeking.

Aye, knew that would happen. Footballers being paid thousands shouldn't be put off by any anti Ashley songs or a banner. I've said it before. We can't just accept a horrible little man like Dennis Wise having so much say in what happens at the club. Some of the songs detracted from supporting the team, but people are passionate and frustrated and need to tell certain people what they think of them. We lost the game yesterday because the squad isn't strong enough to cope with so many players out. One of the very points Keegan tried to make before his departure.

Oh, it's Keegan who's left us in a mess is it? Nowt to do with the people in charge of the club undermining the man and making it impossible to do his job. I think it's Ashley and Co who are responsible for this mess. Can you read man and why only quote selectively? I made it clear that I wasnt discussing who is responsible for the mess, just that Keagen leaving us 3 games in the season has left us in a mess. I take Madras' point though that our squad still looks decent, the mess I was referring to though is that we are managerless and even if we appoint one, he might have a different vision and style than Keagen's which means our players will need to be conditioned on his tactics and style of play (which usually takes some time). So you'd prefer him to sit there for a good half of the season, and given the situation, watch the club flounder while waiting for a hefty compensation package when Ashley finally sacks him? Not only does he walk away with his pride intact, he's also giving the club time to adjust to a new regime. Personally, i'd prefer Keegan to stay for as long as he's doing a good job. I don't see why that couldn't stretch beyond this season. I'm not sure the club would flounder, and why should he be sacked for doing his job well? So long as he's not demanding to spend unreasonable amounts of money in the transfer market of course. Obviously Ashley should have final say regarding the amount of money we can spend on players. I don't think that's Keegans problem however. I think he's more unhappy that certain transfer deals have been done without him having much say on the matter.

Would you have preferred they didn't try to get KK back first? Id prefer they still try even now, f*** this "its over now" s****, i want KK back at this club. Aye, what's to stop them talking some more? The fact that talks have taken place, would suggest that Ashley may be prepared to have Keegan back, and that Keegan may be prepared to take the job back. Maybe i'm clinging onto the slightest of hopes, but frankly i'm finding it hard to come to terms with Keegan actually being no longer part of this club.

It'll take an eternity to get a self-respecting manager, with a backbone and opinion of his own. Alternatively we could get a total "yes" man easily. Somehow i think we'll end up with the latter.

Hammarby is a forbidden word at St Mirren after scoring 2 goals in injury time to win a uefa cup tie against them back in the 80s.

As pointed out earlier in the thread, Wise undermined Keegan. Wise seemingly brought certain players to the club, who Keegan didn't choose to bring.

Scotland - St Mirren. Caught my eye as the team in black & white at the back of my panini sticker book. Then i spent a few weeks in the area, got to see them a few times, amongst others. Adopted them as my favourite Scottish team. My interest could never match my passion for the Toon however.

I think Ashley knows he's scored an own goal by sickening Keegan. It's good they had talks, but Ashley's made his bed and now has to lie in it. Let the protests commence.

If the club can justify their part in Keegan resigning and have a clear conscience about the whole thing, they should speak out. Personally i think they know they've shot themselves in the foot and have no defence.

I was there too. Seemed like bad crack.

Oh, it's Keegan who's left us in a mess is it? Nowt to do with the people in charge of the club undermining the man and making it impossible to do his job. I think it's Ashley and Co who are responsible for this mess. Can you read man and why only quote selectively? I made it clear that I wasnt discussing who is responsible for the mess, just that Keagen leaving us 3 games in the season has left us in a mess. I take Madras' point though that our squad still looks decent, the mess I was referring to though is that we are managerless and even if we appoint one, he might have a different vision and style than Keagen's which means our players will need to be conditioned on his tactics and style of play (which usually takes some time). I can read. Can you spell? It's KEEGAN. You're talking about a man whose name you can't even spell. I quoted selectively because i was reacting to the point i highlighted. I don't think you made it clear that you weren't discussing who was responsible for the situation and that your "Keegan leaving us 3 games into the season has left us in a mess" comment implied that Keegan is to blame. As for the squad, it's good but thin.

If we're doing well things may be more quickly forgotten, but don't forget that any new manager will be working under the restraints that Keegan had to endure. i.e having some of his buys/sales chosen for him, wether he agrees with them or not. Effectively, the manager will pick the team from a squad that has been chosen for him. No matter wether Keegan or anyone else was manager, surely that's an unacceptable situation.

Oh, it's Keegan who's left us in a mess is it? Nowt to do with the people in charge of the club undermining the man and making it impossible to do his job. I think it's Ashley and Co who are responsible for this mess.

Most people were unhappy with Allardyce as manager and so probably wouldn't have been too disappointed. Keegan was popular, so most are disappointed. I agree, let's get behind the lads to beat Hull, but we simply can't carry on as if nothing has happened. Keegan and we the fans have been betrayed IMO.

I think it's an absolute travesty, the way Keegan has been treated. Those who feel the same way, need to Protest. However, boycotting sports direct stores in the area, will i fear have little effect. It's only one or two branches of a massive chain after all. We'll stop shopping there and the Mackems will resume shopping there to cancel out the effect. Some of the sports direct customers couldn't care less about NUFC so long as their shorts are ok for their hol's. It's going to be really hard to hit Ashley in the pocket. All we can do is vocally make him and his chums so unwelcome, that they decide it's no longer worth the hassle to stay here.

I dis-agree. I think the people who've made the club less stable are Ashley and Co. They've rocked the boat and needlessly deprived us of an ambitious manager who bleeds black and white. And it's a bit harsh to suggest people are "mongs" for protesting because they don't want to see their club being treat with contempt.

Keegan quit because he was being undermined. NUFC are left in a position whereby no decent manager, and only a total puppet will want the job. I don't think that's an acceptable position and i think the club should be told it's un-acceptable. These fanzine statements are just an attempt to get everyones protests aimed in the same direction.

Appoint the right man? Who on earth would want this job, working under the current conditions?

True. Keegans relationship with this club goes back over a quarter of a century. I think He's under-estimating the affection the fans have for the man.

Think we need a poll to decide the best form of protest. March or staying behind at the end of the game sound good. Even if everyone stayed for only 5 mins. Protests probably won't bring Kev back, but we need the people who forced him out to pay. We need to make the remainder of their hopefully short time here miserable.

Any doubters of KK, just try and remember that he loves this club and anything he does, is done with the intention of doing what's best for the club. No-one wants to succeed here more than Kevin Keegan. What's he expected to do when a player says he's not happy, then someone offers umpteen millions for that unhappy player, as in Milners' case. Had Milner been happy, then i don't think he'd have considered selling him. The circumstances are different however. I guess he feels he has little option other than to sell. Long live King Kev!

He has to be paid what he is worth. And thats regardless of how long is left on his contract. If he is not paid what he is worth, then he has every right to request a transfer. The questions are, firstly is he being paid what he is worth, and if he is not, then why not. The kid is entitled to ask for a rise and just as entitled to request a move to a club that want him enough to pay him what he is worth. Just the same as it is with any of us in our jobs. When he signed his contract, he agreed to play for us for "x" amount of time for "x" amount of money. Unfortunately for him, that's what he accepted, regardless of what's happened since. Personally, i think he's worth a wage comparible with the best at the club, but he's committed himself to certain terms. His only reasonable options are to seek alternative employment or accept the terms of his contract.