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Deeply philosophical tbh. Not only is it a demonstration of the clubs hunger and the fulfilment of its needs it is also an explosion of opportunities that offer you multiple ways of receiving fulfilment via multiple reiterations. A Woltemade styled German punch of creativity, if you may. #BeansMeansHeinz

I'm intrigued to watch a little later, so not being ignorant . But just a more generic comment I'd like to make and that is that the hurdles he has been facing have been incredibly difficult by comparison with previous clubs who are now deemed "big 6" like. The league is entirely different, attitudes are, the elitist reporting and governance is. Honestly cannot believe how little slack this guy gets like. It's almost like he's just too nice for us to simply enjoy and support.

I find people can only interpret a song one way. "Newcastle United will never be defeated" is a classic one of a similar vein. We have obviously just been defeated by the Mackems in that particular battle or game, but the song is philosophical. It harkens more to the fact that sure, we might lose a game but we will never surrender or ultimately be worn to extinction. To use "Who's that team..." in a similar vein - it doesn't have to be the literal meaning and analysis of a situation it can be theoretical and ideological. This is what we will get behind and be behind and stay behind. It acts as a reminder and not just simply bravado or chest pumping.

Well played! More more more...Howe do you like it...Howe do you like it...

Loving you.. is easy cause you're beautiful.

Carabao Howe. King Carabao.

Haha thank you mate but I'm just doing what I feel we should all do tbh. Farfetched as it may seem to consumers of the game, we are all our own managers. What benefit do folk think having a mental rant against Elanga is having? He's got no confidence. He needs his confidence building. If anything we should be singing for him more not less. That's because he is demonstrating the right attitude but not the right form or ability. When people don't display the right attitude that's when we should be sweary. You cannot blame folk for not having a good time of it or not being talented enough but you sure as hell can when they're being disruptive or lazy. I thought the crowd were probably a bit better than expected tonight, I was worried for Howe and wasn't really in the mood to argue with folk but it had to be behind him and the players and it was. We got our reward for it. I simply do not subscribe to the "I pay to be entertained" mentality. I pay to see my team try to win. Each to their own though

Tickets seem to be plentiful for this one...

One or two signings out of how many? Recruitment is also just one area of management and has been our most volatile area owing to ever changing backroom staff and PSR stipulations that didn't really exist until they thought we might oust the preexisting super powers. What about his handling of the media, his stewardship of the club, his coaching, his tactics, his man management?

For me - I am trying to decipher what is the emotions of losing to Sunderland (rather embarassingly) and what is reasonable concern from our season to date. I think there's a lot in a bit of a muddled grey area. This is a guy who has demonstrated his ability to take a sinking ship and devise a cohesive, defiant team unit that was greater than the sum of its parts. A team that took us from relegation to the top 10, and onwards to the Champions League ahead of what many considered ahead of the clubs likely or natural upward trajectory. He took us to a cup final and the club collectively got so erect we spaffed our load all over our trousers before we got near the trophy, we went away, we achieved the same again and we learned. We won. We won our first domestic trophy for 70years. A lifetime for some people. For others our first major trophy for 56years. Sure, we're not really "clicking", but we're 2 wins away from the Champions League spots. We're in a cup quarter final with a favourable tie, we're progressing steadily in the Champions League and have given good accounts of ourselves versus some decent sides. We have the FA Cup yet to compete in. Sure, our away form is fairly wank and at least 3 of them you can say were absolutely abject performances, but the whole season hasn't been as horrific as folk are making out. I find it really sad to see that despite all of Eddie Howes form to date, his professionalism, his honesty, the way he has carried himself on behalf of the club, we seem to fall at the very first hurdles where faith is concerned for him. Every season without fail, as soon as we have a sticky patch this question rears it's head, like we're just hovering with the axe above his helpless head. It's minging man. This guy has gave us some of the purest and most joyous moments in our Newcastle supporting lives. He is absolutely not void of criticism, there are things he does that I don't agree with too, but fuck me, he's earned far more leeway than many fans online are seemingly willing to give him. People will likely get a rude awakening if we hound him out. I honestly don't think we could have had better since the takeover and I don't think we can get an obvious improvement on him in our existing situation. We're competing with "big 6" clubs who are a commercial closed shop and outperforming two of them at (least) across his tenure. The most comparable outfit in Villa we've beat to a cup in that time and also CL in the last season. It's really not as bad as folk are making out like and I find some of the rationale being provided just speculative, farfetched or really selective. Just my opinion (I'm sure folk will argue the opposite) but our league positions and cup positions and win rates don't lie...

In Eddie I Trust.

Don't give rise to it man.

Beating Sunderland...

Except the Dan Burn tackle!

We're still in all 4 competitions and "competing". Might not be the prettiest at times but we're trying to reestablish ourselves. We've only just got Wissa back and the Isak debacle has definitely set us back. Howe has proven previously he can string results together and I have every faith that he will do so again.

What were Howes comments?

It's about a degree of professionalism though isn't it? Sunderland had less local players than us and still managed to muster up a relatively competent performance by their standards. Maybe it's a bigger game for them than us, perhaps? I just think if we want to be the club we aspire to be I'd expect our players to buck their ideas up irrespective of whether they get the derby.

Agreed...and for every time I hear "Howe out" I rarely see a viable solution for who'd come in and be considered likely to evolve us...

Jesus can blame who he wants, it's his birthday soon.

Woltemade would be relatively flying with pens to his name too.