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stay on 5, touch and go for me,..50/50

Please fuck off, we are not down we have 80 minutes to get back in this. Even if we lose we are not "down". rekon hes on the right lines tho.

This thread, shows where we have fallen too, desperation.

He is a legend, I know that. Malcolm Macdonald?

For fucks sake, its total war.

It's those Centurions man. Total hard cunts. Canny at building walls to, trouble is they just dont know when to stop.

reports are he punched someone, but there are no injuries,.....wimp.

at least, three or 4...

ill take you to the vets at the weekend,

That sentence in bold is probably one of the biggest piles of dogshit I have ever read on this forum This is the problem with anti-Ashley posters and the likes of the NUSC. Banging on about what's been done wrong without even attempting to acknowledge the point of the original post, which is about clubs going facing real financial difficulties if they spend beyond their means without any proportionate success. Does this sound like any club in particular? This is the problem about those who have bought into Ashley's propaganda and have posted on this thread without correctly interpreting what others have said - there was absolutely NOTHING in my posting which mentioned Ashley's spend - if you look again , you will see that I said he has messed up Jumbo style ; this has nothing to do with the spend but EVERYTHING to do with his decision-making...and I stand by that 100 % , as would anyone unless they think that creating a situation where KK walks out, employing a third-rater like Kinnear after making an abortive effort to sell the club(and then offering him a 2 year contract) etc etc...is good management. not arguing with any of that like, but i love the chelp that Happy Face has railed off into about spending on managers under ashley after a massive amount of the debt ashley paid off was built up by the previous owners in appointing s*** managers on big contracts, allowing them to spend a fortune on s*** players then sacking them and paying them off you couldn't make it up Ashley hasn't paid it off. He's changed the lender....to himself...so we save on the interest. Ashley has sacked managers at a rate 3 times more frequent than Shepherd did. Why do you support this course of action while deriding it from the previous chairman? But I don't see a problem in Ashley being repaid the loans he has made to the club. After all, if it was a PLC the shareholder(s) would all be entitled to dividends from the club each year. Is it really so dreadful to expect to be repaid for loans made to the club. It makes sound business sense to me, and once the loans are repaid, and providing the club is on a stable financial footing, then the club will, if run sensibly along the lines now set out by Ashley, generate ample funds for player purchases for years to come. Hopefully players will want to play for NUFC for the kudos of playing for a top well run and successful club, rather than that last big payday. I have no problem whatsoever with him loaning the club money interest free rather than a bank. It's just as beneficial for him as it is for the club. We save on interest and loan repayments until he sells. And just like the banks, he gets the full amount back, even if players he's signed decrease in value to zero and we're left with a shitty squad fighting relegation year after year. Started off brightly but you still insisted on twisting a perfectly good and reasonable post to fit your agenda How's that man? It's just as good for Ashley being the clubs moneylender as it is for the club. There's no negativity in that, no underhand, money laundering, assett stripping conspiracy theory. Just a fact that it's a common sense approach for both parties. I'd have thought my agenda would be the same as yours. We want Newcastle to do better in the league. But that's my point exactly. It does not matter to me if it's beneficial to Ashley as well. I couldn't care less what Ashley does or benefits from the club, so long as Newcastle United is better off as a result. He has made several serious errors in judgment, but one cannot ignore the massive job being done in terms of re-structuring the club's finances, and bringing on the youth policy, to ensure our survival as a football club once this whole crisis has blown over. Nail on head. Are we? Do you truly believe the under 18's and a low rate of interest on our borrowing are the things stopping our inevitable implosion? We clearly haven't been better off on the pitch in the short term. But it's a long and complicated process, trying to halt the slide we were on when the previous board had sold up. All things considered, including the uncontrollable economical climate, we could still come out of it in a better position than we would have had we owed everything to creditors. Only time will tell HF mate. Only time will tell. I put the same question to you that wasn't answered elsewhere. Do you think an improved under 18s team and an improved rate of interest on our debt will see us start climbing the league? What changes are planned to make sure we aren't fighting relegation next season? we will be, from the prem, or the championship

if, the premier league, had capped salaries at 1 million a year, at the begining, would the players had said fuck that, ill get a job as a decorator, or a bin man, no,... they would still have been very rich, but the clubs would not have accumulated so much debt.

its simple. the pl;ayers have been paid, far too much, tenfold imo,.. so it was always going to end one day.

you assume it will last to the sunday...

was that the red one?

FYP explain?

Agent, i believe.

Played my first game since NO match today,6 a side on a hard pitch, i was fucking awsome, i showed them, 8, 9 and 10 year olds who the man was. Till i went over on my ankle and cried off, cant walk tonite.

It wasn't confirmed at all. Especially as we had 35 league games remaining. However on the back of the protests Ashley decided he didn't have the stomach to live with his decisions and wanted out. So he never appointed a long-term manager. Then on the back of that when he decided to stay with half of the season to go he decided to still persist with Kinnear instead of bringing a more capable man in. if we get relegated, its Ashleys fault, not Kevin Keegans,...FACT

what a load of s***. mort said keegan knew the system/situation and agreed to it before he signed. any talk from keegan himself about breaking world records was sheer stupidity. Your the one talking s*** - Keegan would not have returned unless he had been promised significant funds and control over transfers. Why do some people on here prefer to believe Ashley rather than Keegan, amazing really at what point in ashleys time here has he or anyone connected to him claimed we would spend "significant funds"? the club would NOT have said "here kev have £200 million m8" as a lure. keegan most likely came back for the money he would get, not spend. sad, but very possibly true. The 16 million quid they were going to spunk on the croation tranny? and Woodgate in January again, that would have a knock on effect on other transfers we did complete. i would bet significant money on keegan being told he would have to sell to buy for the most part. what a load of s***. mort said keegan knew the system/situation and agreed to it before he signed. any talk from keegan himself about breaking world records was sheer stupidity. Your the one talking s*** - Keegan would not have returned unless he had been promised significant funds and control over transfers. Why do some people on here prefer to believe Ashley rather than Keegan, amazing really at what point in ashleys time here has he or anyone connected to him claimed we would spend "significant funds"? the club would NOT have said "here kev have £200 million m8" as a lure. keegan most likely came back for the money he would get, not spend. sad, but very possibly true. The 16 million quid they were going to spunk on the croation tranny? they thought that would be a "right deal at the right time". that doesnt mean we would follow that up with another £50 million on other players. chances are we'd not have colo if we'd got modric. Nonsense. Net outlay last summer was barely £2m, Colo included. So a) what happened to that £16m for Modric, because it sure as hell wasn't spent? and b) why shouldn't KK have expected to have it available to him? read what i said again before you say its nonsense then agree with me. a) the money went on colo and b) it was and he spent it. nonsense.

just watched the latest shamless, on catch up, rekon we could give them a good game like,...just about.

I still think with our key players coming back to fitness we will stay up, although it will be a lot closer than last year. This current squad would piss all over any team in the Championship. Disagree, good sides in the championship, have hunger, desire, something to prove, want to get to the big league, they are aspiring, and motivated, young, dynamic. We would be there with a bunch of Aged failed, deluded, big time charlies, who cant be arsed, we would struggle badly

I think taylor looks more like action man, than Frankenstienes monster.

sitting on his arse, he can get his full pay, so doubt he will take a deal, unless he wants some sun.

fyp

setback,... strange description, you have to be doing something to have a setback?