Mistle17

I give up.

I love the FA Cup, but I've all but given up on us in any sort of a cup competition.

Tonight and Monday are massive for Pardew. If we start and finish like we have in the last few games then I think it's clear he either doesn't have a clue or doesn't value his job. Probably both. Results are the main thing, but some sort of a performance would be acceptable too

Good post.

Loss. Players and manager have given up the chase already, games over for Silver Fox.

Lambert left a bigger club than Wigan to manage Villa. Swansea attracted Laudrup. Fulham have got Jol. Even if it's not Martinez I find the idea we couldn't attract somebody who could coach decent football into our squad a bit mad. Even if it is Ashley/Llambias, I think you'd have a queue of managers willing to do it. I agree, the opposing attitude is exactly what Ashley and his oiks want the fans to think. There's an undercurrent of "Little old Newcastle, we're lucky to even be in the top league, so forget about properly competing" within day-to-day communications and also wider level stuff, and it's f***ing bullshit. We're not Man Utd, but we're being completely shortchanged with the lack of ambition shown at the club. In that sense Ashley and Pardew are a very good fit. Yep.

Sack-able performance today. Simpson and Williamson glaringly bad, but the man has a choice to not play them (despite limited options). Its simply no good. I really, really, really, really, reeeeeaaallllyyy, really don't give a fuck that we finished 5th last year- that's not going to save us when we're in the bottom 3/4 at Christmas. The guy hasn't a clue and is making each game more and more unbearable, I don't care if there's not many free agents up for the job...maybe Mike Ashley could for once just grow a pair and pay decent money to improve us and poach someone like Martinez from Wigan. If he's not sacked tomorrow morning and we see a similar result & performance against Stoke (and maybe even Wigan) then it's a very worrying thought as to how far we'll have to sink for him to be sacked.

Hopefully not. Today has got to have sealed his fate.

Speechless at how bad that was. He must be looking for compensation.

Scrape a draw.

I agree. Looking at our upcoming games it's hard to see where the points will come from, especially with our December run. Big, big game.

I've seen that before, it's spine tingling! Absolutely unbelievable. But I guess (watching) football was so different in general back then that you can't even compare it to today's game. Most of the time our home atmospheres are flat, but we're not the worst and its at every ground up and down the country, or certainly in the top division. It did seem that SJP was slowly regaining a bit of its bite and vigour when the Leazes Corner was in full flow but that fire was stamped out and it seems that about from a small pocket of fans in the Strawberry Corner/Gallowgate there really is very little vocal support. The Spurs game was quite lively, but that was probably because it was the first game of the season + the buzz after the previous campaign. Adding to all of this the fact that we have to put up with such a turgid,ineffective style of play which is just deflating to watch, it doesn't seem like the place will be rocking again any time soon.

Aye, load of s****. That Jimmy Savile rubbish needs to disappear as well. And those Danny Simpson chants were embarrassing too. Hopefully in the later stages of Europe when ticket demands increase the charvas will be crowded out from games/The Corner.

I'd love to see him leave tomorrow, but there are so many factors going against that happening (i.e no good replacement) that it would be catastrophic to do so. As I said, limp to the end of the season with this dinosaur and try and shift him then.

Looks like a really good player, you can see he's a product of the Ajax academy- very well groomed technically...he's an intelligent player. It's very hard to judge him in games where we are constantly outnumbered, though. Why wasn't Bigirimana holding with him last night? We got completely overrun (again) in the second half, Anita's been trying to do the work of two men in the last few games. He's come from a football environment where tactics such as Pardew's are alien to him, you can see the lack of movement from our team doesn't suit his ability and what he has to offer us. I really like him as a player and hope that we soon find a system that accommodates players like Vernon; under the right manager he could flourish. And for me, when people were bemoaning his signing saying we didn't need him: of course we did, we just needed to bolster our defensive ranks as well but failed miserably to do that. That's not his fault, that's Mike Ashley's fault for refusing to acknowledge the fact that to compete at the top domestically and in European competition he's got to spend money. It's shit, but the way football is nowadays it's incredibly difficult to compete when your sole aim is to balance the books.

You can see he'd be good in a team that plays the right way and to technical players' strengths. Useless trying to judge players like Marveaux under our current set up.

Wanted to tear my eyes out watching that filth. It was so painfully predictable that they'd score. Waste of £10, and the shockingly low attendance says it all about what people are thinking now.

Under Pardew we have two methods of playing a game: 1) We score first, then our heart stops and we lose any sort of interest and momentum in winning the game and sit deeper and deeper, letting the oppo have as much of the ball as they like, tearing us apart on the break whenever we venture forward, and eventually concede (not winning the game). or 2) We start completely disjointed and lethargic, unable to string two passes together as we disgracefully play it long to our isolated striker(s). The opposition score and we give it 'a go' in the last 20 minutes when its too late, by either giving the ball to Ben Arfa and watch him try and beat 11 opposing players or we hoof it into the box and hope to win the scraps and poke it in. It's absolutely desperate and rotten to watch. This honestly reminds me of when Allardyce was in charge, it's truly woeful. I wish Pardew would pack his bags tonight and leave, he doesn't deserve to be within 10 miles of this great club let alone managing it. Tonight summed it all up.

I was so jealous watching Swansea play yesterday. You look at some of their signings, Michu for example, and it's actually frustrating. Then, to top it off, you look at our best 11 and the football that is produced and its enough to make you weep. I'd love Laudrup here.

Don't have a good feeling about this one at all, think it could be a long afternoon. Very nervous, actually.

Dan Abrahams is actually a top sports psychologist, but not that you'll care. I don't know how people get so wound up about things like that when its blatantly obvious we set up to contain teams and clearly lack an attacking mindset. Calm down, ffs. Look who's talking.. Has it totally escaped your mind we finished fifth last season, way better than most on here dared to dream, and our manager was awarded the manager of the year award as a result. Aye, I bet a "top sports physchologist" would know better - tactics and psychology are near enough the same thing.. Really? No one seems to mention last season, I had no idea! I never said he'd know better tactics than Pardew btw! It was more aimed at Pardew's mind set- one that seems controlled by fear.

Very good! Bit of a 'whoosh' that one..

Dan Abrahams is actually a top sports psychologist, but not that you'll care. I don't know how people get so wound up about things like that when its blatantly obvious we set up to contain teams and clearly lack an attacking mindset. Calm down, ffs.