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The true answer to the arguments in this thread tbh. The answers are probably somewhere in the middle and all we can do is hope that Pards can keep this run going. :thup:

Wouldn't the money they make only increase the pressure they are under and encourage them to play it safe since they have something to lose? The answer is probably somewhere in the middle.

I think you've missed the point, then. I don't see anyone truly demanding that, but it would be nice to be comfortable for 90 minutes, especially when the opportunity presents itself like it has in the last two games (and the Mackems) (and countless others in the past couple of years). Take a blanket. :lol:

The Mackems? It was their new manager's home debut and their fans and team were massively up for it. Their previous showing for their new manager had been as bad as ours against the mackems at home the year before and they were looking to react to that on top of the awful start that had preceded it.. Everything about that game pointed to a reaction from them that we would have to weather and the mackems went at us with massive energy from the first whistle and had us under the kosh for half an hour. How was it an opportunity to be comfortable for 90 minutes? Were they bottom of the league at the time? But your right, I agree with the stuff you said, just trying to give a balanced view.

I think we are tbh. Now that said, we're not doing it by throwing the owners cash at it (he just won't) but we are a big club and our means (even if only marginally exploited) are better than most but it will be a long process. There isn't a magic bullet solution, Spurs just spent £90 Million and they're below us, now they may very well end up above us but they f***ing should do given the spend. As for the regime, couldn't care less who owns us or what they do/say, so long as we get better on the pitch and this season we are appearing to do just that. The current league table would suggest our "average" manager, which he is along with most others, is doing OK (or above average) enjoy it while it lasts. It could be a step in the right direction (the first of many hopefully) or it could be another peak before a trough, there's no scientific formula for "success". 'appearing just to do that'? Our ownership have time and again shafted the fans. I agree its improving but's that's some pretty short term retrospect based on four admittedly brilliant results. I would disagree on the bold bit, unless of course some of the lowest ticket prices in the division is "shafting the fans" and to be honest ticket price is in reality the ONLY real shafting opportunity (apart from replica kit but they all play that game) all else is hot air. No fans I associate with (who also don't frequent message boards btw) feel shafted tbh. thoroughly perplexed at times, oh aye definitely. On the short termism, as I said above hopefully it's a sign of steps in the right direction, it may not be, but here's hoping eh ? At the end of the day - all we can do is hope.

I think you've missed the point, then. I don't see anyone truly demanding that, but it would be nice to be comfortable for 90 minutes, especially when the opportunity presents itself like it has in the last two games (and the Mackems) (and countless others in the past couple of years). HF quoted someone who demanded we smash teams more comfortably just at the end of the last Pards thread - he can't directly quote everyone but rest assured that this has been happening. It's literally mental! Genuinely unbelievable!

Good to see Pards trying to get expectations under control after a few wins. I seen a lot of people on here demanding we should dominate teams for 90 minutes and smash them for 4 and 5 it's literally mental! Every game is a tough game in this league and most teams have more resources than us too. All we can do is hope that Pards keeps this run going. :thup:

Swansea do that most games, means naff all really. Watched them quite a lot this season and they pass it around nicely enough but don't actually do much creating with the possession so it's all a bit pointless. If we stay organised and break effectively, these are there for the taking. Aye, possession is hardly a good platform to build on like. Silly decision by Laudrup. Maybe Swansea should consider adopting a Pards like approach that consistently get's his players preforming as more than the sum of their parts?

I do know what you mean but FWIW I wouldn't say that they are far, far worse. IMO, probably worse yes - but let's not get hyperbolic. The answer is probably somewhere in the middle. Appreciate your input BTW though I do think what you're saying is a bit irrelevant - but hey that's opinions!

who said they weren't valid ian? i missed it, can you point me in the right direction mate... These posts are really annoying, FWIW. I obviously don't mean literally. FWIW I agree. I mean- come on. IMO If you guys cant enjoy 4 wins in the bounce then you'll never be satisfied TBH. You cant dominate teams for 90 minutes and smash everyone for 4 and 5 goals. FWIW, Pards probably has to be careful managing expectations now that he's proving the doubters wrong. Let's just hope this continues and get behind the team and Pards. :thup: EDIT: BTW looks like Pards was right about Europe too - noticed a few teams have lost games after a European match this season.

Fair assessment, I like Long but we shouldn't be unduly scared of him. He even went out of the game the other night after his goals (which were class). I would have him as a squad player and backup to Remy/Gouff here mind, but squad players aren't really what we need to be buying as a priority. I wouldn't say he's as bad as some are making him out to be - but I wouldn't say he's great either. The answer is probably somewhere in the middle.

There's not a post in this thread, no matter what length, that tells the whole story. Daft to demand a view that is panoptic in ANY form. what story are you talking about?

At the end of the day all we can do is hope we keep winning and get behind the lads and Pards.

It's a silly old argument all right. Who would ever waste their time talking about luck?

How is it possible to miss the point so dramatically? Nobody is gutted. People don't think it's sustainable to keep playing the way we are, like it hasn't been in the past. Wow, cyber tears. If you can't enjoy the three wins in a row you'll never be satisfied.

I agree. I mean - we won those games, did we not? No other argument is needed. If you win you must be doing most things right. Let's just hope he keeps winning.

Imo tbh I wouldn't say Pardew is lucky - but I wouldn't go as far as to say that he's unlucky either. The answer, is probably somewhere in the middle. Let's just hope Pardew's luck balance continues.

If we win the game - all good, nothing to discuss, all credit. If we lose - OK now you can criticize. Hurrr.

Tbf IMO I wouldn't say he's completely lost the plot - nor would I say that he has complete control of the plot. The answer is probably somewhere in the middle. Let's just hope he hasn't lost the plot.

I think that's being kind. That's a bit too far IMO. I wouldn't say its being kind, nor unkind either. The answer is probably somewhere in the middle.

Wow Inochi getting that mad and personal over someone just posting their opinion, what a bully!

Considering some of the things certain posters on here have trouble grasping... an argument about a concept as complex and old as luck is going to be excruciating

Define luck.

KI EDIT: Actually that's a little overboard. Was it a good post? yes but not that good just like your bad posts are not that bad. All we can do is hope that your next post is good.