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You must know this is a fatuous argument Dave. We are on a Newcastle forum discussing our club, and a big part of that is what happens with signings, ticket prices, wages and all of that. And to ignore the limitations of our finances is also stupid, otherwise every club would just be splurging money everywhere because it's impossible to go under, right? I would love to just be interested in football too, but I don't see how you can be when money is such a massive part of the modern game. It's regrettable obviously. Dave's right though. NUFC supporters have been conditioned to judge the health of the club in purely financial terms. Who judges the health of the club purely financially? I don't know anyone on this forum. It's just the heated discussion tend to revolve around people believing we should spend more. And who conditioned us? With you defending the lack of signings following it. Honestly not trying to do that. I just accept that the club now has a transfer policy that it will adhere to, and that this policy has delivered us some quality players. I also believe that we were left in a really bad situation after throwing money at one bad signing after another in the past. It would be great if Ashley was ready to bank-roll £50m of signings a season like Man City and Chelsea, but he obviously isn't and I don't really hold that against him. He seems to be learning how to run a football club. Anyway, we've done this argument to death and nobody is going to be persuaded when we're doing so badly on the pitch. You just can't help yourself Way to ignore a post. Why? No one wants or demands 50 million investment a season. Most seasons we make a profit or thereabouts on player trading. If you cant see how this is an utterly absurd straw man argument then I don't know what to say to you. FFS man, I'm not saying anyone is demanding this. Maybe it was unwise to include it because people would focus on it and use it to have a needless pop. As I've said, the 'middle ground' argument is basically pointless having, because everyone will differ on where they are happy for the line to be drawn. Well lets try the middle ground between 0 (we average somewhere around this) and 50 (your arbitrary figure). So 25m. I think most would be happy with spending that. As I said, a pointless argument. If you say so I'm convinced the vast majority (at least on here) would be satisfied with a 25m investment on players per season. where from ? You'll have to be more specific with your question man

You must know this is a fatuous argument Dave. We are on a Newcastle forum discussing our club, and a big part of that is what happens with signings, ticket prices, wages and all of that. And to ignore the limitations of our finances is also stupid, otherwise every club would just be splurging money everywhere because it's impossible to go under, right? I would love to just be interested in football too, but I don't see how you can be when money is such a massive part of the modern game. It's regrettable obviously. Dave's right though. NUFC supporters have been conditioned to judge the health of the club in purely financial terms. Who judges the health of the club purely financially? I don't know anyone on this forum. It's just the heated discussion tend to revolve around people believing we should spend more. And who conditioned us? With you defending the lack of signings following it. Honestly not trying to do that. I just accept that the club now has a transfer policy that it will adhere to, and that this policy has delivered us some quality players. I also believe that we were left in a really bad situation after throwing money at one bad signing after another in the past. It would be great if Ashley was ready to bank-roll £50m of signings a season like Man City and Chelsea, but he obviously isn't and I don't really hold that against him. He seems to be learning how to run a football club. Anyway, we've done this argument to death and nobody is going to be persuaded when we're doing so badly on the pitch. You just can't help yourself Way to ignore a post. Why? No one wants or demands 50 million investment a season. Most seasons we make a profit or thereabouts on player trading. If you cant see how this is an utterly absurd straw man argument then I don't know what to say to you. FFS man, I'm not saying anyone is demanding this. Maybe it was unwise to include it because people would focus on it and use it to have a needless pop. As I've said, the 'middle ground' argument is basically pointless having, because everyone will differ on where they are happy for the line to be drawn. Well lets try the middle ground between 0 (we average somewhere around this) and 50 (your arbitrary figure). So 25m. I think most would be happy with spending that. As I said, a pointless argument. If you say so I'm convinced the vast majority (at least on here) would be satisfied with a 25m investment on players per seasom.

You must know this is a fatuous argument Dave. We are on a Newcastle forum discussing our club, and a big part of that is what happens with signings, ticket prices, wages and all of that. And to ignore the limitations of our finances is also stupid, otherwise every club would just be splurging money everywhere because it's impossible to go under, right? I would love to just be interested in football too, but I don't see how you can be when money is such a massive part of the modern game. It's regrettable obviously. Dave's right though. NUFC supporters have been conditioned to judge the health of the club in purely financial terms. Who judges the health of the club purely financially? I don't know anyone on this forum. It's just the heated discussion tend to revolve around people believing we should spend more. And who conditioned us? With you defending the lack of signings following it. Honestly not trying to do that. I just accept that the club now has a transfer policy that it will adhere to, and that this policy has delivered us some quality players. I also believe that we were left in a really bad situation after throwing money at one bad signing after another in the past. It would be great if Ashley was ready to bank-roll £50m of signings a season like Man City and Chelsea, but he obviously isn't and I don't really hold that against him. He seems to be learning how to run a football club. Anyway, we've done this argument to death and nobody is going to be persuaded when we're doing so badly on the pitch. You just can't help yourself Way to ignore a post. Why? No one wants or demands 50 million investment a season. Most seasons we make a profit or thereabouts on player trading. If you cant see how this is an utterly absurd straw man argument then I don't know what to say to you. FFS man, I'm not saying anyone is demanding this. Maybe it was unwise to include it because people would focus on it and use it to have a needless pop. As I've said, the 'middle ground' argument is basically pointless having, because everyone will differ on where they are happy for the line to be drawn. Well lets try the middle ground between 0 (we average somewhere around this) and 50 (your arbitrary figure). So 25m. I think most would be happy with spending that.

You must know this is a fatuous argument Dave. We are on a Newcastle forum discussing our club, and a big part of that is what happens with signings, ticket prices, wages and all of that. And to ignore the limitations of our finances is also stupid, otherwise every club would just be splurging money everywhere because it's impossible to go under, right? I would love to just be interested in football too, but I don't see how you can be when money is such a massive part of the modern game. It's regrettable obviously. Dave's right though. NUFC supporters have been conditioned to judge the health of the club in purely financial terms. Who judges the health of the club purely financially? I don't know anyone on this forum. It's just the heated discussion tend to revolve around people believing we should spend more. And who conditioned us? With you defending the lack of signings following it. Honestly not trying to do that. I just accept that the club now has a transfer policy that it will adhere to, and that this policy has delivered us some quality players. I also believe that we were left in a really bad situation after throwing money at one bad signing after another in the past. It would be great if Ashley was ready to bank-roll £50m of signings a season like Man City and Chelsea, but he obviously isn't and I don't really hold that against him. He seems to be learning how to run a football club. Anyway, we've done this argument to death and nobody is going to be persuaded when we're doing so badly on the pitch. You just can't help yourself Way to ignore a post. Why? No one wants or demands 50 million investment a season. Most seasons we make a profit or thereabouts on player trading. If you cant see how this is an utterly absurd straw man argument then I don't know what to say to you.

You must know this is a fatuous argument Dave. We are on a Newcastle forum discussing our club, and a big part of that is what happens with signings, ticket prices, wages and all of that. And to ignore the limitations of our finances is also stupid, otherwise every club would just be splurging money everywhere because it's impossible to go under, right? I would love to just be interested in football too, but I don't see how you can be when money is such a massive part of the modern game. It's regrettable obviously. Dave's right though. NUFC supporters have been conditioned to judge the health of the club in purely financial terms. Who judges the health of the club purely financially? I don't know anyone on this forum. It's just the heated discussion tend to revolve around people believing we should spend more. And who conditioned us? With you defending the lack of signings following it. Honestly not trying to do that. I just accept that the club now has a transfer policy that it will adhere to, and that this policy has delivered us some quality players. I also believe that we were left in a really bad situation after throwing money at one bad signing after another in the past. It would be great if Ashley was ready to bank-roll £50m of signings a season like Man City and Chelsea, but he obviously isn't and I don't really hold that against him. He seems to be learning how to run a football club. Anyway, we've done this argument to death and nobody is going to be persuaded when we're doing so badly on the pitch. You just can't help yourself

Graham has never looked anything like Cisse whenever I have seen him He's a poacher and does not offer much else. Perhaps holds up the ball a little better. (From what I've seen of him last season)

Graham? nah. Graham is a poor Cisse. New player should be different to Cisse in style/what he offers.

I suggest you read the article before applying you terrible child-like logic to the situation.

I rekon we should get bodies in just for the sake of it.

I doubt there's much difference between 10th and 16th to an incoming player (we're not going down). The relegation release clause/massive survival bonus + the much higher weekly wage offer is what has swayed this. Presumably. Unless something drastically changes we most certainly are going down. Bullshit. How good do you think villa, reading, soton, qpr and Wigan are? Most of them are shitter than us. 'Most of them' are also picking up more points. 4 out of the 5 I mentioned are below us 1 in this: http://www.footballformguide.net/form/barclays-premier-league

On the plus side if we were in the top half we probably wouldn't have tried to sign him.

Pardew going would probably speed up hatems departure, every interview he ever gives he always compliments and says how good the manager is. His relationship with Pardew is probably the best he's had with any manager/coach he has worked with. That's a fair point, going forwards though we'll lose more than we'll keep due to Pardew. Although there is absolutely no evidence for that so far? Just the evidence that players usually want to play for good teams under good managers, throughout the history of football.

Since Pardew has been in charge you mean Really though? Yes.

Since Pardew has been in charge you mean

Alan Smith levels of shitness tbh.

Yep it's just so utterly predictable

1 clap will suffice. It's a load of crap and no number of clapping smilies will make it true Implying that ANYONE expects us to win 4-0

Glad someone else noticed I'm nearly certain that Anita has been instructed to stop playing so many short passes, he hit it long to Cisse numerous times today and we all know that's not his nature

Completely disagree. Same, anita whacked it at him, cabaye did it too. Yup. Buckets of hoof today. And I'm nearly certain that Anita has been instructed to stop playing so many short passes he hit it long to Cisse numerous times today and we all know that's not his nature

I couldn't agree more.

Completely disagree. Same, anita whacked it at him, cabaye did it too. Yup. Buckets of hoof today.

Truth is, Willo isn't nearly as bad a defender as some of us think. Just remember Boumsong and Bramble man. Both of whom are better than him. Yep.