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I suppose some people think it's glorifying a regime that is in many parts distasteful. Same way people "blacking up" or dressing up as Nazis for a wee laugh is frowned upon. Not saying it's exactly the same, but surely you can appreciate why it might be frowned upon?

I wish he'd gone before, but serving this shit up in his 1000th game after he cried to his son to back him up does sweeten the disappointment. All eyes on us today so no hiding

He's kind of right to be fair, most are all as shit as he is

Nah, anyone coming in would have clocked it and negotiated against the purchase price. Don't believe the 70% Vs 100% personally, also think the 8m is suspect - they'll be some clauses in there. The 3 years will have been to protect Ashley form losing his human shield as much as anything. It's been a week and he's insignificant really. Anyone who's going to let him ruin our 1st game under new owners need to calm down. It's how we get a bad rep. Imo of course etc etc

I meant from the owners perspective more than anything

That being said, if the club does any kind of 1000 game celebration for him then I'm fucking kicking off.

You've missed the players out there. Staveley spoke to Lascelles herself and we all know Bruce is largely popular with the players. They're in limbo at the mo and probably know some of their futures are uncertain - keeping the coaching staff for a couple of weeks, who they've worked with for the last few years, would normally be "good management". No point having a great atmosphere if we get twatted by spurs cos the players are out of sorts....be pretty shit momentum. Guess it depends what's most important to people. edit - Wahey, NPW Bruce fanboi (I'm not, just won't let him ruin my buzz)

They're more bothered about booing Bruce for one or 2 games rather than celebrating Ashley gone and an exciting new long term era for the club? That's a bit of a shame really.

Christ, he sees potential with the new owners that might elevate his profile and eases back in.

Why can't both points be valid?

Simple as that really.

No, it's your point. It might not be other people's points. I see just as many people saying it's immoral money as those saying the purpose is the difference.

I just think it might help the players transition. Some of them know their futures might be at risk, ripping the coaching setup from under them might be a bit much at the mo. We can't go in with just Graeme Jones in charge (assuming he wants it and that the Steve's would all fuck off). If Wilson is back and fit, we can get a result regardless of Bruce. But I'd personally prefer he was binned

Everyone is assuming Jones wants it, or he may be demanding a run of games rather than a one-off and the owners may not want that. Who knows? As fun as it is to say no manager is better than Bruce, it's not really true insofar that the players need someone in place. By most accounts he's popular so for team morale purposes it may be the easier option. He'll be gone as soon as they have a replacement. He won't ruin my buzz for the sake of a couple of weeks.

Club Secretary isn't necessarily as shit as it sounds mind you. For context, our Company Secretary is also the Legal Director. I think waiting to make sure we have a DoF in before the manager role is filled makes sense long term. Shame Bruce has left us in a slightly precarious position which puts a bit more urgency on it.

I almost hope he reaches 1000 games (elsewhere of course) just so that his record will be splashed about, highlighting how dreadful he is.

Yup, and they'll realise that NUFC is being run like any other club (albeit filthy rich) and aren't suddenly going to start banning women, alcohol, LGBTQ people from attending.

There really isn't anything wrong with pointing out other people for being hypocrites imo. Calling it "whataboutery" is just a a smug, patronising response in lieu of a decent argument. For clarity, we shouldn't defend KSA, but it's not our moral responsibility to make the stand now where others haven't.

"ISIS FC"

Come on guys, you're playing in to the KSAs plans by fighting between ourselves like the western warmongers we are.

In reality this will blow over to some extent. NUFC will be operated as a completely separate and independent investment entity with zero influence from KSA beliefs/laws - LGBTQ or women won't be banned from attending games, we'll get a women's football team, Amanda Staveley will continue to be the face of the consortium etc. Anything else would damage their investment which would go completely against PIFs purpose. Questions have already been asked to Staveley and she's answered. I'm sure they'll continue to be asked and she'll return the same message. As supporters, we should be doing our best to keep the ties to KSA to a minimum until the furore dies down.

Who do we think is making the decision on and how? I'd almost rather they put Jones in charge until they get a DoF in (assuming they go down that route) so they can work with them on a decision. Going to be so vital to have those 2 roles on the same page.

Supports Israel in its actions against Gaza The Iraqi war (let's not forget UK involvement) The absolute clusterfuck that is Afghanistan. All of which probably result in far more deaths and poverty etc than SA are involved in. Is what some people would say. Not me though, I don't see the point in any of these arguments to be honest. Shit everywhere frankly and most definitely in KSA.

Do the allowable FFP losses relate to each season in a rolling 3 year period or across all 3? Was sure it was each but seen some slightly misleading wording....

Exactly, there will be the usual morons of course. I happily labeled Ashley a cunt for his sports direct dealings etc and I'll do the same for any SA dubious activities. Doesn't change how I feel about NUFC though - I am capable of dividing issues.