Billy Pilgrim

4 minutes ago, Dr Venkman said:

And jail sentences.

I would take just being fully cognisant of the problems and making the effort to fix them before it’s too late tbh.

12 minutes ago, 1964 said:

I can't work out whether this is serious or not 

We will see how bad things are on the 1st of February and go from there. They’ve got 12 days to sign 3-4 players, otherwise we go down.

Need a full and honest assessment of why we haven’t been able to get bodies in the door, and for blame to be apportioned correctly.

2 minutes ago, Collage said:

The entire Brighton 11 is 2/3 the value of a Lukaku

Fraudkaku getting bullied out of the game against little old Brighton 

18th of January, 2 bodies in the door, one of them Chris Wood.

Needs to be better. 

I want him and I don’t want to think too hard or elaborate on why. Just do it.

Zapata is an absolute chaos merchant, much more along the lines of what I wanna see 

5 minutes ago, Schecter said:

Forgive the ignorance but could someone explain the PFM please? I've got a rough idea just want to comform lol. Thanks

Proper Football Man. IE, talksport cretin.

Not sure we can pin it all on Staveley. It's a collective decision for a consortium to take. So far as her judgement goes, on paper it was optimistic but not ludicrous to suggest that Bruce was the major obstacle and that a highly rated Eddie Howe could come in with a plan and change things. We had been turned down by the first target and we needed to do something. What matters is being decisive should we get to february and still be on a single win. 

They're definitely working hard and they have done a lot already and it seems they have detailed plans for more to do. But they also need to get working on a contingency plan for what happens if we go through more winnable games and end up with no wins. Fail to prepare, prepare to fail, and time is no medicine for bad football management.

3 minutes ago, STM said:

if I'm wrong I will hold my hands up and admit it and say, fair fucks mr Howe, you turned it round. However if any of you can be arsed to read what I said about Eddie Howe in the run up to him being appointed, you will see that my wild forecasts are not as insane as they appear to be at the time of writing.

I'd say give him two more games. No wins, send to gulag.

I think it is way too early to be getting pissy about PIF and Stavely. BUT. Howe is absolutely fair game as he has been objectively shite and replacing him fast will be the difference between going down and staying up.

In the middle of the game people were talking him up (and slagging off ASM, our good footballer ) but I can't see it. His crosses were behind the man, he can't beat anyone, he just seems to do a bit of running around to zero effect whatsoever. Needs replaced immediately. 

Regardless of anything else, Everton will now hire a manager we could have

20 minutes ago, 54 said:

 

If we had hired a good manager, he’d be here.

I don’t care about his charisma, or how cool he looks, or whether he says PFM things. I care about points and results. Eddie clearly isn’t a dickhead which is a huge boon in his favour but if you put a gun to my head and say, do you want a guy who isn’t aggravating, or do you want a complete bastard who dances on the graves of his defeated enemies on a weekly basis, I am going to pick the bastard. Sorry not sorry. Life is too short to stick with losers for abstract reasons, and this is true beyond football. Politics, work, relationships, everything. Your fight and drive to push against the universe as hard as you can is what brings victory.

14 minutes ago, midds said:

coming to the conclusion that he's not going to coach his way out of this mess. The only way he turns this around is if he buys his way out of it. I like him and think he's got good intentions and ideas but he's not been able to get them into operation when it matters, his players have let him down but it's all about efficiency now. Playing expansive football and being ambitious, committing players forward and "looking better" is all well and good but it needs to translate into better results sooner or later.

 

I worry for him tbh.   

Far too sensible, Gulag for admin 

Your manager sets the level of players that you can sign. We all knew this from the very beginning but we were all high on getting rid of Ashley and Bruce and we allowed ourselves to let optimism and circumstances dictate an overly positive response. That is fine. What is not fine is doubling down on a mistake for the sake of worrying about being seen as delusional, or pretending that relegation isn’t a big deal, or refusing to put pressure on a manager when he has done absolutely nothing for us from the moment he walked in the door.

None of us can materially change much but we can absolutely compound a problem by letting apathy dictate our response.

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Wuh just need a little birra luck 

Can someone post that telegraph article so I can get wound up by Eddie Howe spending money on shite 

What the kids these days call a ‘wasteman’

1 minute ago, HaydnNUFC said:

 

Take a step back and look at the games in isolation. Otherwise we really are the deluded bell ends who turn on managers that the media portray us to be.

You can see from space that the results, individually, have been shit. 

Just now, HaydnNUFC said:

 

Only way he should imo. Knew this would happen on here. As soon as a bad run comes along then it'll be 'ohhh get Rafa back', even though he's not been great in management since he was at us ~3 years ago.

It would have been nice to have a good run first tbf 

2 minutes ago, Lazarus said:

Think some are being harsh on Howe like.

 

Hes working with a sub standard squad in sub standard facilities. We have injury prone  players in key positions, we have an entire squad that appears to lack mental strength and/or confidence - maybe the saudi trip will help with this?

 

While it might be argued that none of the players, except Joelinton has improved - have any of them got worse? I dont think so.

 

What no ones mentioned yet, and for which Howe gets no credit, is that hes got the players fit. Maybe he doesnt deserve any credit for this as its such a basic part of his job. But also, while hes had 10 games, how many of those games have the players been fit enough to canny out his game plan for the full 90 mins? Maybe 6?

 

My worry at the moment is that its taking, on average, 1 week to bring a new player in. This means we bring in 2 more, hopefully a DM and a CD. Id really like to see another CD or LB, both preferably.

 

Sacking Howe would lead to more uncertainty in the club and in the players,  then another bedding in phase with a new manager. Not to mention even more criticism from fans and press that we could do without.

 

We always knew the key to staying up would be the transfer window - we are only half way through it.

It’s a harsh world where losers die and winners thrive.