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Aye we were 18th. Ashley going on the "wage bill determines final placings" mantra.

Gary Speed. RIP

Scabbing it is fucking abhorrent, to be honest. And I know I read that after reading about somebody's 85 year old grandad, and I'm making connections that likely aren't there, but to use the term scabbing it, in reference to anybody from the generation who know all about strikes, is just disrespectful. It's cultural appropriation is what it is.

On the subject of whether Ashley will be laughing at the money he has already received for people not turning up; I would imagine that the contract with Sodexo will involve a guaranteed provision of custom on match days. It's customary in such agreements. Not sure what the penalties will be, but Sodexo won't be happy and if we can successfully encourage his partners that he is not good to do business with then we not only hit him at the club but in his own business world too.

Unless Kenedy moves to the 10 spot. He's all over the pitch as a left winger, and I think he could do that job. It would mean Dummett losing the invaluable protection he offers, like.

He's laughing equally at all of us. We are each just various sources of amusement. He laughs at some for their gullibility, he laughs at others for their anger at the gullible. He laughs at me cos I'm just a funny fucker.

It's the fickle nature of people.

So he could be compared to either Ben Arfa, or Obertan.

Revisionist history, these were your actual standpoints: Much more leading, clearly implying VAR will be used as a tool to aid big clubs. Which is what people have discussed as a result of your posts. No. Clearly pointing out that it could be. Which was my original comment, supported by the other two standpoints. Again, what people have been discussing is how unlikely the exploitation would be, because of you pointing it out - which you did. Well maybe I am guilty of assumption on this occasion, because I thought they were pointing out reasons why it wasn't possible, or beneficial.

Revisionist history, these were your actual standpoints: Much more leading, clearly implying VAR will be used as a tool to aid big clubs. Which is what people have discussed as a result of your posts. No. Clearly pointing out that it could be. Which was my original comment, supported by the other two standpoints.

And the reason I am forced to repeat those two standpoints, is precisely because they are the only two standpoints I have made. 1. That an advantage can be gained as a result of the game being interrupted in the dying minutes. 2. That VAR has the capability of stopping the game in the dying minutes. 1+2=3. Var presents an opportunity to afford an advantage to a team who is hanging on for a win. I know I said the big clubs, but it's not restricted to them. It could easily be used in a relegation battle. Just to keep things exciting for the final weekend of televisual spectacular.

Are you completely pig ignorant? I have already stated that I'm not talking about players abusing it. The FA preferring the big clubs aren't news, but saying they actively make refs give them decisions is a bit of a conspiracy theory. Rather, it's the refs bending over to the pressure of standing up against the big clubs, if anything, to create the perceived big club reffing bias - it will be incredibly harder to do after VAR is implemented as VAR isn't as subjective. Again with the fantasist accusations. Where have I claimed that referees are doing anything at the behest of the FA? Favoring big clubs. The FA pays for the service, going by the above point, the FA favours big clubs and could, according to you, abise VAR to favour the big clubs. Every post since then has been following up on these two standpoints, giving arguments why they cannot abuse VAR this way. Nobody's saying you've said anything other than what you've said, but the argument has moved forward to use examples of why the things you have said are dumb. You've just taken two comments and made an assumption. And a wrong assumption at that. My whole point is based around the fact that VAR gives them this opportunity. And we're arguing why that's not an opportunity that's neither realitsic or would be utilized by anyone. Whereas instead of engaging in the discussion you just keep saying you've not said the stuff that's led to the discussion, when you have. It's pointless. What is pointless is you making claims about what I've said, when even your own evidence demonstrates you're full of shit. The main issue here is that instead of specifying what you meant when faced with apparent misunderstanding, you just keep re-iterating you didn't mean what - everyone - assumes you meant. It's extremely non-contributive, not to mention disruptive for actual discussion in this thread. Well if people's assumptions are wrong then I'm going to correct them. If they continue to persst with those assumptions that is on them.

Are you completely pig ignorant? I have already stated that I'm not talking about players abusing it. The FA preferring the big clubs aren't news, but saying they actively make refs give them decisions is a bit of a conspiracy theory. Rather, it's the refs bending over to the pressure of standing up against the big clubs, if anything, to create the perceived big club reffing bias - it will be incredibly harder to do after VAR is implemented as VAR isn't as subjective. Again with the fantasist accusations. Where have I claimed that referees are doing anything at the behest of the FA? Favoring big clubs. The FA pays for the service, going by the above point, the FA favours big clubs and could, according to you, abise VAR to favour the big clubs. Every post since then has been following up on these two standpoints, giving arguments why they cannot abuse VAR this way. Nobody's saying you've said anything other than what you've said, but the argument has moved forward to use examples of why the things you have said are dumb. You've just taken two comments and made an assumption. And a wrong assumption at that. My whole point is based around the fact that VAR gives them this opportunity. And we're arguing why that's not an opportunity that's neither realitsic or would be utilized by anyone. Whereas instead of engaging in the discussion you just keep saying you've not said the stuff that's led to the discussion, when you have. It's pointless. What is pointless is you making claims about what I've said, when even your own evidence demonstrates you're full of shit.

Are you completely pig ignorant? I have already stated that I'm not talking about players abusing it. The FA preferring the big clubs aren't news, but saying they actively make refs give them decisions is a bit of a conspiracy theory. Rather, it's the refs bending over to the pressure of standing up against the big clubs, if anything, to create the perceived big club reffing bias - it will be incredibly harder to do after VAR is implemented as VAR isn't as subjective. Again with the fantasist accusations. Where have I claimed that referees are doing anything at the behest of the FA? Favoring big clubs. The FA pays for the service, going by the above point, the FA favours big clubs and could, according to you, abise VAR to favour the big clubs. Every post since then has been following up on these two standpoints, giving arguments why they cannot abuse VAR this way. Nobody's saying you've said anything other than what you've said, but the argument has moved forward to use examples of why the things you have said are dumb. You've just taken two comments and made an assumption. And a wrong assumption at that. My whole point is based around the fact that VAR gives them this opportunity. And we're arguing why that's not an opportunity that's neither realitsic or would be utilized by anyone. Double negative says you agree.

Are you completely pig ignorant? I have already stated that I'm not talking about players abusing it. The FA preferring the big clubs aren't news, but saying they actively make refs give them decisions is a bit of a conspiracy theory. Rather, it's the refs bending over to the pressure of standing up against the big clubs, if anything, to create the perceived big club reffing bias - it will be incredibly harder to do after VAR is implemented as VAR isn't as subjective. Again with the fantasist accusations. Where have I claimed that referees are doing anything at the behest of the FA? Favoring big clubs. The FA pays for the service, going by the above point, the FA favours big clubs and could, according to you, abise VAR to favour the big clubs. Every post since then has been following up on these two standpoints, giving arguments why they cannot abuse VAR this way. Nobody's saying you've said anything other than what you've said, but the argument has moved forward to use examples of why the things you have said are dumb. You've just taken two comments and made an assumption. And a wrong assumption at that. My whole point is based around the fact that VAR gives them this opportunity.

Are you completely pig ignorant? I have already stated that I'm not talking about players abusing it. The FA preferring the big clubs aren't news, but saying they actively make refs give them decisions is a bit of a conspiracy theory. Rather, it's the refs bending over to the pressure of standing up against the big clubs, if anything, to create the perceived big club reffing bias - it will be incredibly harder to do after VAR is implemented as VAR isn't as subjective. Again with the fantasist accusations. Where have I claimed that referees are doing anything at the behest of the FA?

Are you completely pig ignorant? I have already stated that I'm not talking about players abusing it.

It's really fucking simple. Currently, if a team is winning by a single goal, but looking likely to concede because the opposition are dominating ("It's only a matter of time, surely"), then feigning injury is a commonly applied tactic, with the intention of taking the sting out of the game. But as I have said The FA/SkY would not entertain the idea of using anything to afford the top teams an advantage, so it doesn't matter.

No more susceptible to corruption than refs being paid to do betting scams, with the exception that the world is literally watching how these decisions would be given compared to it normally only being the ref knowing why. This meaning VAR would be harder to use for corruption than the situation preceding VAR. Except I'm talking about the FA/SKY using it to give an advantage to the top teams. But like I say, the powers that be would never do such a thing.

OK then, it's totally non-corruptible by the powers that be.

It can't be exploited by either team, only the officials on the pitch in conjunction with those in front of the screen can bring the use of VARS. Not sure what your point is really in regard to delaying the game, for the gain of whatever team that might be. Same reason players on the leading side will feign injury, to interrupt the flow and reduce the pressure. You've never seen a game where the losing side are hammering the oppositon, but then they have a long injury and the game just fizzles out? As for who can abuse it, I'm pretty sure those paying for the service will be able to do whatever they like. I’m pretty sure you don’t have a clue what VAR is 5 mins to go leading team being bombarded, balls into the box, bit of a shirt tug, ball to hand, slightest touch on an attacker in the box, there are many ways VAR could end a game five minutes early. The game is only stopped if the VAR team think the wrong decision was made or if the ref needs help. Did you watch the World Cup? Where have I contradicted this? The point is the VAR team have the ability to stop the game. Yes, in order to make the correct decision when a mistake is made by the referee The VAR team ask the ef to look at something that they have seen, theref does not have to change his mind.

It can't be exploited by either team, only the officials on the pitch in conjunction with those in front of the screen can bring the use of VARS. Not sure what your point is really in regard to delaying the game, for the gain of whatever team that might be. Same reason players on the leading side will feign injury, to interrupt the flow and reduce the pressure. You've never seen a game where the losing side are hammering the oppositon, but then they have a long injury and the game just fizzles out? As for who can abuse it, I'm pretty sure those paying for the service will be able to do whatever they like. I’m pretty sure you don’t have a clue what VAR is 5 mins to go leading team being bombarded, balls into the box, bit of a shirt tug, ball to hand, slightest touch on an attacker in the box, there are many ways VAR could end a game five minutes early. The game is only stopped if the VAR team think the wrong decision was made or if the ref needs help. Did you watch the World Cup? Where have I contradicted this? The point is the VAR team have the ability to stop the game. In the fact that you say players could abuse it. If anything it’s the opposite Quote, or fuck off.

It can't be exploited by either team, only the officials on the pitch in conjunction with those in front of the screen can bring the use of VARS. Not sure what your point is really in regard to delaying the game, for the gain of whatever team that might be. Same reason players on the leading side will feign injury, to interrupt the flow and reduce the pressure. You've never seen a game where the losing side are hammering the oppositon, but then they have a long injury and the game just fizzles out? As for who can abuse it, I'm pretty sure those paying for the service will be able to do whatever they like. I’m pretty sure you don’t have a clue what VAR is 5 mins to go leading team being bombarded, balls into the box, bit of a shirt tug, ball to hand, slightest touch on an attacker in the box, there are many ways VAR could end a game five minutes early. The game is only stopped if the VAR team think the wrong decision was made or if the ref needs help. Did you watch the World Cup? Where have I contradicted this? The point is the VAR team have the ability to stop the game.

You alright, mate?

It can't be exploited by either team, only the officials on the pitch in conjunction with those in front of the screen can bring the use of VARS. Not sure what your point is really in regard to delaying the game, for the gain of whatever team that might be. Same reason players on the leading side will feign injury, to interrupt the flow and reduce the pressure. You've never seen a game where the losing side are hammering the oppositon, but then they have a long injury and the game just fizzles out? As for who can abuse it, I'm pretty sure those paying for the service will be able to do whatever they like. The players have no say when VAR is used. If anything, this will prevent big clubs getting decisions. The refs will have nowhere to hide when they are looking at a video of the incident. I didn't say players could. Pay attention. My whole point is that it provides the opportunity to take everything out of the players hands.