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I don’t think so!? What time stamp?

Even the last one (Leeds) was NY’s Eve, so that didn’t really feel like a Saturday. Think the one before that was Villa on 29th Oct.

Because only lunatics genuinely think anyone is ‘cheating’.

They tried to get ‘fairness’ for Wembley and that went down like a lead balloon. They start applying criteria to who can apply to this and the meltdown will be like that x100. That said, it maybe is something for down the line, with tiered memberships etc., but right now they’re best off with just sticking to straight ballots IMO.

The bit in bold, I don’t think it’s that simple unfortunately. For example, let’s say someone has bought a membership but they’re only interested in applying for the games against Man Utd and Liverpool. They applied for Liverpool and were unsuccessful. When Man Utd comes around should they have some kind of priority over someone who has applied for every game, and maybe been successful three or four times? I think most people would say no. That’s just one made up example, but you can see how it could get extremely difficult in trying to make it ‘fair’, outside of a straight, unrestricted ballot for every game. I think a lot of people would agree with most of your other points like. You wouldn’t think some of them were that difficult to improve upon, alas…

You can’t on one hand say let ~30k+ fans have access to 3k tickets and that’ll all be fine, then on the other hand say ~55k fans having access to 10k tickets means ‘nobody has a chance of getting a ticket’. I do agree though that the proof will be in the pudding of how many renew next year.

When you say ‘priority’, what would that have entailed? Because giving them first dibs to get tickets would ultimately render any lower tier utterly pointless, as there would never be any tickets left over. We can moan and bitch about Silverstone all we like, but him (and Eales) have been brought in, pretty much with the specific remit of ‘growing the club’. Now we can all have our opinions on what that entails, and whether we like it or not, but it’s fairly obvious that ‘growing the club’ goes hand-in-hand with attracting more fans. He’s doing what the club have hired him to do.

Yeah, probably, but even so, it’s still odd behaviour, to just think ‘Man Utd, ahhh, air disaster haha’. I mean I kind of understand (not condone obviously) when people are doing stuff like that in a juvenile attempt to wind opposition fans up, but to just randomly have that as first reaction to ‘Man Utd’? Weird.

Well if the rumoured 7k allocation turns out to be correct, they’ll be hard pushed to be checking every ticket…

Yes, almost certainly. Man Utd playing on Sunday 29th and we’re playing on Sat 4th, so can’t see a Tuesday or Thursday game.

What an odd thing to do (assuming no explainable context, which would seem highly unlikely).

I think most people would say that’s probably a fair enough viewpoint. I do have some sympathy for them in that the mess that they inherited re. the clubs ticketing practices would have made implementing it alongside what they’ve done, challenging at best. Obviously they could have done something, but it would have been messy, and I think a lot of people would have ended up feeling hard done by. Whether that would have been better or worse than what we have currently ??‍♂️

Yep, agreed. Although how much they could have used previous purchase history prior to this, I’m not sure? We saw numerous instances with the cup final where people were saying saying they’d been to X number of games, but the tickets had been bought by a ST holder or another member as a +1 or whatever, so they had no recognition for it. Probably why they appear to be mad keen on knowing the ‘named person’ in possession of any ticket now. That’ll help down the line you would think. But, again, as you say, people can’t always buy the tickets to demonstrate that now.

Speaking as a ST holder, rather than a Member, so perhaps not best qualified to give an opinion, I don’t really disagree with the overall premise of what they’re doing, given the overarching problem of it being impossible to get anywhere near meeting current demand. Clearly, I wouldn’t dispute there’s issues that are adding to people’s frustration though. It seems the ‘resale’ element of things is becoming more of a shambles as the games go on. I know people on here are probably benefiting from it more than the ballots (which is nice to see), but having people spend hours and hours hitting F5 in the hope of being able to scramble a ticket at some point, does not feel like a coherent procedure. How much of this kind of thing is a legacy of what they’ve been presented with from the past regime, who knows?

Yeah, I wouldn’t dispute that (just going off the limited info from the post you’re referring to). I’d hope that in time we’d maybe go to something similar in terms of tiered memberships. But due to the fact that ticketing processes and procedures at NUFC had just more or less had zero work put into them in over the previous 10 years, I think it would have been very difficult for the club to have implemented something like that at this stage. It might seem like a bit of a shambles at present, but you’d feel that long term it will improve into a more coherent system (difficult to fully get behind at present I know…). Having said that, as everyone knows, the problem never comes close to going away until we have more capacity one way or another.

He’s getting paid (alright, dunno how much, but it’ll be reasonable enough) to go and watch every single Newcastle match. He’ll be getting his travel and accommodation paid for every CL trip. He’s cracked it IMO.

That hasn’t really changed from last season though, in terms of there was no criteria to who could be a member. The only criteria was effectively being quick enough to buy one before they capped them. Whilst I do completely emphasise with those who have got tickets regularly in the past, and are now struggling, this is the reality of supporting a major football club in the modern era, where demand outstrips supply. I may be wrong, but I’d be surprised if any of our contemporaries do anything in the way of capping their membership numbers.

https://gatesheadfc.seatlab.com/events/04-10-2023-15-00-uefa-youth-league-newcastle-u19-v-psg-u19-nufc-fans

“arduous” - fucking hell man ?

Agreed. At Sheffield there were stewards doing checks before the turnstiles, but they were more interested in giving you a pat down than looking at your ticket. The actual turnstile that I went through was unmanned.

Just because you ‘can’t’ do it doesn’t mean it isn’t still happening…

You can’t do any of that for away tickets (ignoring corporate/company aspect). There’s no ‘assigning’ an away ticket to anyone other than the named ST holder.

Bizarre that people have an absolute hard on for trying to blame everything ticket-related on the Trust.

Good to know ? Tbh if you want to sell a ticket for any match, you’re better off just posting it in the Tickets section on here. Someone will take it at FV and you just need to transfer it over to them.

Tbh I’m not sure if you can reclaim it once you put it up for sale? Probably have to check the T&C’s if you can find them