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Where does it say that? George Caulkin has just said it on twitter. No he didn’t, and that’s clearly bollocks.

I'm sorry like, but that's really embarassing. The Premier League won't, nor should they, give a fuck about any of those things he writes.

There's literally nothing to be taken from that interview at all.

Hard to disagree with anything there

I mean, maybe I'm being overly optimistic, but none of this information seems new to me. Seems like another story that is attempting to throw a spanner in the works, but in reality shouldn't have much bearing on it.

Did you not watch the documentary? They were losing money left right and centre, had to pay three times as much as they wanted to spend to get Will Griggs. I vaguely recall Mathven saying they needed £17million income to break even per year (which they weren’t on course to do) and I believe he said the Checkatrade prize money was £2m. So yeah, it would have been a big financial windfall for a club that desperately needed it. Link above says winner gets £100,000 but estimates Sunderland made a total of £1million from gate receipts and tv. That’s not what Methven said on the show like, but if that’s what is true that’s what’s true. Either way you could see why they’d want to win the thing and get that money into the club.

Did you not watch the documentary? They were losing money left right and centre, had to pay three times as much as they wanted to spend to get Will Griggs. I vaguely recall Mathven saying they needed £17million income to break even per year (which they weren’t on course to do) and I believe he said the Checkatrade prize money was £2m. So yeah, it would have been a big financial windfall for a club that desperately needed it.

I’d be ecstatic with either Rafa or Poch to be honest, for different reasons.

Financially it would have been huge if they’d won it, to be fair. To be honest, if we were in League 1, we’d probably love a day out at Wembley too.

What’s up with everyone? There is literally nothing to worry about... it’s happening. People losing their shit over a meaningless throw away sentence about a subject he clearly wasn’t wanting to talk about publicly.

No? Should I?

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/mauricio-pochettino-gives-newcastle-boost-22071671

I mean they’re quite clearly standing outside St James’ and interviewing people, so it would be an incredibly elaborate fake.

I disagree. Tory posh boy for sure, but clearly very knowledgable on running businesses and getting businesses out of trouble, and speaking a delivering his message clearly. Maybe because I’ve worked in a few environments with a bunch of whinging, offer-nothing people, I have sympathy with him for the workforce he inherited. To me he appeared to be used to working with dynamic forward thinking business people, and was met by nod-along morons (apart from a few who seemed decent). I am with ManDoon on this one. Methven is all confidence and privilege with no knowledge or intelligence to back it up. I have worked with his like and it leads to failure and collapse of morale among staff. For Triggs - Also the hot Irish lass was not terrible at her job. She seemed to be the only free thinker in the bunch. What? Because she didn't like getting him coffee? I’m sorry like, but what a bunch of shit. The Irish lass is exactly the kind of do-nothing “rebel” who should be out of the door of any business as soon as possible. “Free thinker” ? She was the definition of somebody who was in a cushy job and didn’t want to be actually told to achieve something. Pathetic.

Why would they need to come to Newcastle in your scenario ? I'm with you in that I think its happening but I dont get why anyone would need to physically come here ? Publicity? Press shots?

I disagree. Tory posh boy for sure, but clearly very knowledgable on running businesses and getting businesses out of trouble, and delivering his message clearly. Maybe because I’ve worked in a few environments with a bunch of whinging, offer-nothing people, I have sympathy with him for the workforce he inherited. To me he appeared to be used to working with dynamic forward thinking business people, and was met by nod-along morons (apart from a few who seemed decent).

They didn’t have the money to take over that club though, they came across as sincere in the documentary but essentially they are gamblers. I thought that story had been rubbished / played down? Either way, I did find them both very sincere and appeared on the surface at least to hold the club’s best interests at heart. I don't even mean that story, a generous estimate of Donald Stewart's wealth would have been around £8m. The club was losing far more than that per year and they seemed to be looking for investors almost immediately after buying the club. No doubt. In theory though there’s nothing wrong with that approach. But the club is literally hemoraghing money and the lack of immediate promotion has basically fucked that plan completely. Small time for sure. Heart in the right place I would say though.

They didn’t have the money to take over that club though, they came across as sincere in the documentary but essentially they are gamblers. I thought that story had been rubbished / played down? Either way, I did find them both very sincere and appeared on the surface at least to hold the club’s best interests at heart.

Just finished series 2 of Sunderland Til I Die. Dunno, I quite like Methven. He’s clearly got good understanding of running businesses and has been up against some fucking laughable practices from previous regimes. He’s a bit cringe, but hearts in the right place I think. I actually don’t mind Stewart Donald either (although he’s the definition of small time)... I think neither of them really expected the level shithousery they were walking into.

Both old news and click bait all rolled into one.

Caulkin and Waugh have been briefed the same.

Basically they’ve been given notice that it’s going to be signed off imminently but haven’t had the official confirmation letter / email. I think it’s pretty clear that’s what George is saying.

So what. What has that got to do with Nufc and football? Jesus man, go fight her honour somewhere else! Don’t blame ManDoon for that ?... he’s replying to something I posted last night (a thread from someone who appeared knowledgable on the motives of Khashogji’s widow) but I pretty much immediately deleted it after realising it was bullshit. Didn’t think anyone would have had time to see / read it.

Article is here if anyone has a subscription to post it. From the little bits you can see it seems just like another rehash to me - https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/sport/premier-league-rivals-raise-concerns-over-saudis-newcastle-united-deal-z0dtpgmlv