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Old Willock would've been through for a 1v1 with the goalie, with a good margin to the nearest defender.

Sure. Can't speak for others, but I never use gross personally.

"We spent a lot since we brought in money from sales!" "Why are we using net spend instead of gross now?" Make up your mind @Froggy

The only reason I talk about net spend is because you started talking about the income from sales when discussing your spending in the summer. I thought it would be generous to include the sales aswell, since you were so eager to include them. If I start posting the gross spending, you would go on about how it doesn't account for the sales.

Anderson if I had to choose. Paqueta is 28 and looks a little bit overrated imo. Anderson is 23 and homegrown.

Okay lets do since INEOS arrived. Then you are second, less than €3m behind Arsenal with the highest net spend.

Then why did he use the word "bust"?

I simply said that your owners words was that you were in danger of going bust, and when I give you hard evidence of him using that word you, still deny it. You said that he didn't say "bust". He literally did. No brain gymnastics changes that.

Well, they should have spent the Isak money on Anderson.

The reason I pulled this up was because people were using Andersons g/a numbers at Forest against him. My point is that even if you are going to focus on that, those numbers can easily go up at a better club. Anderson has a better g/a output than Rice had at West Ham. Just about noone complains about Rices g/a output now.

Christ. Elliot freaking Anderson to Real Madrid would be something. Worst part is that he'd probably succeed there.

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/premier-league/fuenfjahresvergleich/wettbewerb/GB1 Even after you subtract the fees from sales, Man Utds net spend on transfer fees is the highest in the Prem over the last 5 years. That's before you consider their massive wage spending.

“The alternative isn’t very tenable, is it? Which is the club goes bust at Christmas. We don’t want that. We don’t want that." A huge difference that not even your owner understands? Literally says that he means going bust. It gets better: “Manchester United would have run out of cash (aka by his definition: go bust) by the end of this year - by the end of 2025 - after having me put $300m in and if we buy no new players in the summer." Apparently the cost cutting measures has meant that a club about to go bust even with 0 signings could go on a spending spree instead (third highest net spend in the league in the summer).

Anthony, Sancho, Højlund etc. Some really good PSR/financial work. We just need to buy high and sell low like you. If your financial situation isn't great, you should probably slow down the transfer spending? This summer didn't exactly look like a club that was about to go bust by christmas (your owners words).

Made some bad transfers.. Took -8 to get Woltemade, Gordon and James. I didn't watch our game, but to my understanding I was very unlucky with the Newcastle assets? Atleast the players I took out did poorly aswell, but they still got more (Minteh, Pedro and Tarkowski). Would have been so much better off just rolling and make some transfers now instead.

Eze would for sure start for us. Currently I'd start Trossard over Gordon/Barnes, but that's closer, and could change during the season. Hall needs to stay injury free over time and get back into form. At his best he would start over Calafiori. I guess Tino would be the starting LB and Timber RB. Anyways, I didn't mean to start a huge discussion about Arsenal. I just think it's mad to claim that we have a team which could challenge for the title. We have some great players, but even top 5 would be overperforming with our squad. It's such a stacked league, and even Spurs + Man Utd looks solid now.

On the flip side we faced them 1 month ago at SJP with a near fully fit squad and no fatigue. In that game they produced loads of chances and beat us in the end. Both starting 11s has also changed since last season. Gyokeres hasn't been great, but atleast for them they have a real striker now. We did win by 4 goals over 2, but I think they had more chances in both. We deserved it, but we had to play in a certain way. All of this is irrelevant anyways as 2 games of football doesn't decide which teams has the better starting 11. That ignores the fact that there are so many other factors at play in singular matches. If we happened to lose to Burnley with a fully fit squad, does that mean that they have better players? Does Sunderland have better players than Chelsea?

That's not how it works. Does Bournemouth have a much better starting 11 than us then? What about Fulham who beat us twice last year? There are tactics, matchups, and all sorts of other things going on.

If that was true, then Eddie is doing a terrible job. Which he certainly isn't.

Yeah, despite the difference in player material. We overperformed thanks to Howe and they underperformed (they were saving energy for CL in some games towards the end after having lost out on 1st). They have also strengthened the already good depth prelly well in the summer. I just really rate their squad, and if Arteta doesn't win it this season with this team, then it's all on him. Especially as Liverpool and Man City isn't all that (bar Haaland) in comparison, as they don't have the same balance in the team.

That's also a good point. Bruno is very reliable in terms of minutes, so I should probably change that one. They have better depth in midfield anyways.

On Livra and Timber. Livra is amazing defensively. However Timber is great both ways. Livra is only "ok" going forward. Last 2 seasons plus this one: Livra 69 games, 1 goals 2 assists Timber 40 games 3 goals 4 assists Yes, he plays for a better team, but Trippier proved that very high numbers can be done with us if you are top notch.

That I agree with. And that's the point of the convo.

I think only Newcastle fans would think this to be honest. It's more about how good Timber and Ødegaard are than a dig at Tino/Bruno. Tino is still young, but I'm not accounting for potensial.

I think Arsenal wanted Bruno, but he picked us to be a regular? Not sure, though.