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The fucking contempt the club has for everyone and everything is more sickening than the actual results and performances. Why MClaren would want to work for these fuckers I do not know. I guarantee he will resign at some point. Pardew was a slime ball and just as much of a twat as the likes of Ashley so they all got on like a house on fire. McCLaren is a decent bloke. Ah well, good luck to him.

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Appointment to be confirmed this afternoon. No press conference.

Love how they really have stuck to their promise of improving communications with the fans by doing things exactly the same as before :thup:

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Guest Roger Kint

Who's Simpson then?

 

Played for City & Derby in the 80's/90's and been knocking around as manager/assistant to a few lower league clubs. Might have been at Carlisle with Garde ;)

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Who's Simpson then?

 

Played for City & Derby in the 80's/90's and been knocking around as manager/assistant to a few lower league clubs. Might have been at Carlisle with Garde ;)

 

Yay! watched him in the 80´s at a lot of games.. He was a total disaster as a lower league manager though so keep him in just a coaching role

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Who's Simpson then?

 

Played for City & Derby in the 80's/90's and been knocking around as manager/assistant to a few lower league clubs. Might have been at Carlisle with Garde ;)

 

Yay! watched him in the 80´s at a lot of games.. He was a total disaster as a lower league manager though so keep him in just a coaching role

 

He was certainly no disaster at Carlisle, winning promotion 2 seasons in a row. Also found this on wiki  "He was also named as the League Two Manager of the Year and in the League Managers Association statistics was the best manager in the country on points per game above Rafael Benítez".

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Guest Roger Kint

Some saying that Steve Black could come back. Wasnt he here for a spell ages ago via the Falcons?

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http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/newcastle-can-expect-character-attitude-9424258

 

Steve McClaren Character, attitude, commitment. Character, attitude, commitment. Character, attitude...

 

There were Saturdays covering Steve McClaren’s Middlesbrough for the Sunday Sun when I actually contemplated copying his post-match quotes and pasting them into the following week’s paper.

 

Win, lose or bore. Character, attitude, commitment.

 

New to management then after forging his reputation as a coach, whether those words came from McClaren’s head, heart or a Pro-Licence manual, they were instant whitewash over the performance just viewed, papered over the dearth of dash and derring-do in his football, repressed on an altar of pragmatism, and came to sum up his five-year spell at the Riverside.

 

The first major trophy in the club’s history. Ergo, their most successful manager ever.

 

Boring, boring Boro. Teesside, still split.

 

It had all begun in a much breezier mood. Presented at the forefront of a backroom staff comprising Bill Beswick – “not a shrink,” the sports psychologist told me, “a stretch” – there was openness and optimism.

 

Later over lunch once, he was engaging, less guarded than he had, by then, become. Told us 6/10 for every defender, every game, made him happy.

 

That was the platform, and the problem.

 

Gareth Southgate was a great, first, marquee signing. Set an example, set standards. Solid and dependable. No frills.

 

So the football followed. McClaren’s first game in management was a 4-0 home defeat to Arsenal, the first of four straight losses culminating in a 4-1 Riverside reverse at the hands of Newcastle United.

 

By then, McClaren had switched from 4-3-3 to 5-3-2 and eventually, patchily, results started to come together. It would almost always remain, in terms of tactics, performance and form, just as inconsistent.

 

Occasional wins against the big boys, including something even of an Indian sign over Manchester United. Then less impressive displays and results against lesser lights.

 

In the former, rigid, well-rehearsed training ground game-plans came off. Often by a single goal. Worthy, laudable. Rarely terrifically exciting. In the latter, slow-starting Boro struggled to seize the early initiative, to be proactive, against clubs on a more familiar footing.

 

So though they reached the FA Cup semi-final, a 12th-place finish told just as much of the tale. Equally tellingly, two 11th places followed (as did a good record over Sunderland, which might help)...

 

But the latter, 2003/04, brought the Carling Cup and made McClaren the first English boss to win major domestic silverware since 1996.

 

It took them into Europe where, the following season, Boro beat Lazio and reached the last 16 of the UEFA Cup. Finished seventh, too, which restored them to Europe’s secondary competition.

 

This was the Boro of Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink, Mark Viduka, Bolo Zenden and a young Stewart Downing, making the football a touch – just a touch – more entertaining.

 

So it was that in 2006, McClaren’s last at the club, they rode a rollercoaster – via stoppage-time wins, inspired by all-out attack-minded substitutions, over FC Basle and Steaua Bucharest – to the UEFA Cup final. That they lost, therein, convincingly to Sevilla is airbrushed by some. The journey was the thing. The Carling Cup the greatest day. McClaren, their greatest manager.

 

Others remember that during that same season Boro slumped back to 14th, beaten 7-0 at Arsenal and 4-0 at home by Aston Villa, when a supporter threw his season ticket at the manager.

 

That was McClaren, dividing opinion. Successful on paper, dull on the pitch.

 

That was, also, a long, long time ago. Stints of varying success with England, FC Twente, VfL Wolfsburg, Nottingham Forest and Derby County have followed.

 

He will have learned, retained core principles and changed others.

 

So it is difficult to know what to expect.

 

My money’s on character, attitude...

 

 

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Press conferences cost money to organise you know.

 

With the scrutiny shone upon the club by the SP and AO campaigns, I think it's more that they don't want to create a rod for their own backs by either:

 

a) promising the world and failing to deliver/try to reach these objectives

b) openly setting the bar low, and being rightfully vilified for doing so

 

Not during ST sales time, any way. A different time of year and maybe they'd be more brazen and customarily insensate to fan opinion.

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Who's Simpson then?

 

Played for City & Derby in the 80's/90's and been knocking around as manager/assistant to a few lower league clubs. Might have been at Carlisle with Garde ;)

 

Yay! watched him in the 80´s at a lot of games.. He was a total disaster as a lower league manager though so keep him in just a coaching role

 

He was certainly no disaster at Carlisle, winning promotion 2 seasons in a row. Also found this on wiki  "He was also named as the League Two Manager of the Year and in the League Managers Association statistics was the best manager in the country on points per game above Rafael Benítez".

 

I was mostly thinking about Stockport where he outperformed your Carver in regards to avoiding winning games  :shifty:

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If he is a great coach then im really excited to see how Abeid, Cabella and Perez progress next year.

 

I hope Abeid gets another chance here. 

 

He had a great year in Greece and when he got into the team played well before his injuries.  Then he comes back and makes a mistake against Man Utd which leads to a goal.  After that, he barely featured and then it starts to be mentioned in news articles that the coaches don't think he can do this and that etc and he is likely to be one of the ones shipped out.

 

He is still young so why not try to coach the lad to address the shortcomings in his game instead of writing him off.  The attitude with Pardew and his staff seemed to be why bother trying to improve a player - just ship them out.  So MYM couldn't head a ball (like the other central defenders could!) so why not coach so he learns how to do that.  I can't believe how quick they were to write players off.

 

That is why the coaches needed to go as these players need to be looked at though fresh eyes without being influenced by entrenched opinions.

 

Hopefully such issues will now be addressed and we will see players starting to improve with the help of the staff.  Abeid might not be good enough but it seemed that he was never going to get the chance to prove himself either way.

 

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Press conferences cost money to organise you know.

 

With the scrutiny shone upon the club by the SP and AO campaigns, I think it's more that they don't want to create a rod for their own backs by either:

 

a) promising the world and failing to deliver/try to reach these objectives

b) openly setting the bar low, and being rightfully vilified for doing so

 

Not during ST sales time, any way. A different time of year and maybe they'd be more brazen and customarily insensate to fan opinion.

Aye, they are utter cowards man.

The infamous "top 10 goal" to be included in the press release, anyone? :anguish:

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Guest Brendan_Rice

the f*** article was that? a jumble of words

 

"Write drunk; edit sober." - Ernest Hemingway

 

I think he forgot to edit it.

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Guest firetotheworks

the f*** article was that? a jumble of words

 

"Write drunk; edit sober." - Ernest Hemingway

 

I think he forgot to edit it.

That's a class quote.

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