If Italy and France draw 0-0 and Holland beat Romania 3-0

[Guest maddog2]

Then all three teams will be having the same points, same goal difference, same goals for, same goals against and same head-to-head.

 

So who will go through and who will not in such a case?

 

PS: Sorry for creating a new thread, but felt that it deserved a separate thread instead of going into the Euro thread as it's an interesting question.

[biggs]

the top two teams from each group will qualify to the quarter-finals of the 2008 UEFA European Championship. if two teams are level on points in the group, the tiebreakers are as follows:

 

- number of points earned in matches between the teams in question;

- goal difference in matches between the teams in question (in cases where there are more than two teams equal on points);

- goals scored in matches between the teams in question (in cases where there are more than two teams equal on points);

- goal difference in all group matches;

- goals scored in all group matches;

- in cases where exactly two teams are equal in all previously listed critera and play one another to a draw in their final group match, kicks from the penalty mark will be conducted in lieu of the remaining criteria;

- the number of points obtained by the teams in question divided by the number of matches played in the qualifying competitions for the 2006 FIFA World Cup and 2008 UEFA European Championship;

- fair play conduct of the teams in the group stage;

- drawing of lots.

[biggs]

If Turkey and the Czech Republic draw their final Group A match in Geneva on Sunday, second place and a quarter-final berth will be decided on penalties.

 

Shoot-out chance

The Czech Republic lost 3-1 to Portugal on Wednesday evening and then Turkey beat Switzerland 2-1 – both after added-time goals. That leaves the Czech Republic and Turkey level on points, goal difference and goals scored, and according to Article 7.08 in the official 2008 UEFA European Championship regulations, in that instance, if the two equal teams are playing in the last game, their match is decided by spot-kicks after 90 minutes should it finish level.

 

Regulations

Article 7.08 reads: "If two teams which have the same number of points, the same number of goals scored and conceded play their last group match against each other and are still equal at the end of that match, the ranking of the two teams in question will be determined by kicks from the penalty mark, provided no other teams within the group have the same number of points on completion of all group matches." The full regulations can be read by clicking here. Whoever finishes second in Group A will play the winners of Group B in Vienna on 20 June. Portugal, as Group A winners, face the Group B runners-up in Basel the night before.

 

Precedent

The situation has arisen before in a UEFA final tournament. In the 2002/03 UEFA European Women's Under-19 Championship in Germany, Italy and Sweden went into their last group game exactly level. A last-gasp Italy goal made the score 3-3, and Sweden won the shoot-out 4-1, though they were to lose to Norway on penalties in the semi-finals. Meanwhile, while Turkey have never been in a major penalty shoot-out, the Czech Republic beat France 6-5 to reach the 1996 UEFA European Championship semi-finals and Czechoslovakia defeated West Germany 5-3 in the 1976 final and France 9-8 in the 1980 third-place match, giving the nation a major tourmament record of three wins out of three with all 20 attempts converted.

 

Experience

Meanwhile, both likely goalkeepers on Sunday have recent experience of major penalty shoot-outs. Turkey's Volkan Demirel saved three spot-kicks as Fenerbahçe SK defeated Sevilla FC 3-2 on penalties in the UEFA Champions League first knockout round in February. Fenerbahçe then lost to Chelsea FC, who reached the final only to be beaten 6-5 in a penalty competition by Manchester United FC in Moscow, Petr Čech saving from Cristiano Ronaldo.

Hope that helps

 

 

[SEMTEX]

Then all three teams will be having the same points, same goal difference, same goals for, same goals against and same head-to-head.

 

So who will go through and who will not in such a case?

 

PS: Sorry for creating a new thread, but felt that it deserved a separate thread instead of going into the Euro thread as it's an interesting question.

 

looking at those rules it'd be between italy and romania, as the goals scored in the matches between the 3 teams would be 1 goal for italy/romania and 0 goals for france.

[Keefaz]

- the number of points obtained by the teams in question divided by the number of matches played in the qualifying competitions for the 2006 FIFA World Cup and 2008 UEFA European Championship;

 

What a shit way to lose a match that'd be.

[James]

Has any team ever gone through with three draws?

[Guest Deep456]

Has any team ever gone through with three draws?

 

Or even 2?

[GoranBadlund]

 

Or even 2?

 

Definitely, Sweden always go through with 2 draws and one 1 win.

(Germany 06, Portugal 04, Japan/ S. Korea 02)

[morgs]

Has any team ever gone through with three draws?

 

switzerland in the world cup. didnt even score a goal

[Segun Oluwaniyi]

Switzerland definitely defeated Togo in the world cup

[ashtoon85]

They also beat South Korea. And finished top of their group.

[Guest optimistic nit]

Has any team ever gone through with three draws?

 

switzerland in the world cup. didnt even score a goal

 

 

they didn't concede, they did score.