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so America is to get a Black president,

 

Lewis Hamilton is Formula 1 champion.

 

Shola Ameobi is even turning into a footballer.

 

How long before we get a Black Prime minister?

 

Will it ever happen, what are the barriers?

 

Who are the candidates?

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so America is to get a Black president,

 

Lewis Hamilton is Formula 1 champion.

 

Shola Ameobi is even turning into a footballer.

 

How long before we get a Black Prime minister?

 

Will it ever happen, what are the barriers?

 

Who are the candidates?

 

We're halfway there now with a Brown one.

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We've never had a black forum admin either. Or a disabled one. Or a straight man to the best of my knowledge.

 

WAY behind on our equality quota.

 

 

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We've never had a black forum admin either. Or a disabled one. Or a gay to the best of my knowledge.

 

WAY behind on our equality quota.

 

One moderator is 50-60% deaf, so it is not that bad.

 

Why do you think he's only a moderator?  :shifty:

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I don't think there will be. There isn't much of a will for one to happen than in America due to the segregation etc... Also the proportion of the population that is black is greatly smaller than in America. 

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for the same reason there'll probably never be an Asian president in the US, unlikely in the near future.

 

Not enough people.

 

Not enough influence on the culture.

 

Not enough sense of historical injustice that makes it imperative, etc.

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for the same reason there'll probably never be an Asian president in the US, unlikely in the near future.

 

Not enough people.

 

Not enough influence on the culture.

 

Not enough sense of historical injustice that makes it imperative, etc.

Mmmmm dunno. if labour had a black leader would people not vote for him because he was black ?

 

 

 

(can...worms...open)

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The 1.2% number is misleading.  Obama's achievement wasn't about proportional representation for black Americans, it was to show that a kid with a white mother, black father and of Kenyan family origin can rise from poverty to the highest office in the land.  Would that be possible in a country where the greatest indicator of whether you are going to hold high office is still whether you went to Eton, Fettes or Rugby?

 

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for the same reason there'll probably never be an Asian president in the US, unlikely in the near future.

 

Not enough people.

 

Not enough influence on the culture.

 

Not enough sense of historical injustice that makes it imperative, etc.

Mmmmm dunno. if labour had a black leader would people not vote for him because he was black ?

 

 

 

(can...worms...open)

 

I think they'd have more of a chance getting in than an Asian PM but I really couldn't see the public warming to them. Although the actual leader of the party is far less important here than in America, here policy of the party general gets them elected, so race may be less of an issue than some may think. 

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The 1.2% number is misleading.  Obama's achievement wasn't about proportional representation for black Americans, it was to show that a kid with a white mother, black father and of Kenyan family origin can rise from poverty to the highest office in the land.  Would that be possible in a country where the greatest indicator of whether you are going to hold high office is still whether you went to Eton, Fettes or Rugby?

 

 

John Major was from Brixton and left school at 16. Thatcher, a women (allegedly), grew up in a flat above a shop in Grantham. Gordon Brown went to a state comp in Kircaldy. the first British PM from an ethnic minority was Disraeli in 1868 - the clue's in the name.

 

your current prez is the son of the former CIA head and former president. you have to go back to 1963 and Alex Douglas Home to find a british PM as politically connnected, monied and upper class as him, John Kerry or Al Gore.

 

6% of brits are educated in private, fee-paying schools, 12% of Americans are. Obama should know, he went to one ($16,725 a year at current rates) the same school as the founders of AOL and Ebay - how's that for being connected? That's right, he's a former public schoolboy. and as he was the only african-american in the senate, there's now none.

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