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What are people's thoughts on the whole campaign of getting Jeff Buckley to no.1? If people don't know, his song "Hallelujah" has been covered by that X Factor winner in the hope of getting the no.1 Xmas spot. Buckley fans are trying to get his version there instead as a bit of a 2 fingered salute to the manufactured style of reality TV and the pop industry. At least that's what I see it as.

 

So what do you think about it? Is this campaign demeaning the value of a no.1 spot? That is, if there is much value in it still? Or is it a good thing to be supposedly sending a signal to manufactured pop, if it is?

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If Len hadn't told us the story there, I would have NO IDEA who this Buckey character is!

 

So it matters not a ot to me anyway!  O0

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x factor has killed the charts. worthless cover versions at number 1 for weeks and weeks defies the point of the charts.

 

I think it's a good thing as it may actually educate the clueless masses into listening to some decent music for a change.

 

and this ^

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x factor has killed the charts. worthless cover versions at number 1 for weeks and weeks defies the point of the charts.

 

I think it's a good thing as it may actually educate the clueless masses into listening to some decent music for a change.

 

and this ^

 

good point Bramley apple tart!  :clap:

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Aye, what happened to the good old days when the charts actually stood for something artistically profound.

 

Stuff like Grandad with him off of Dads Army or Shadapayaface the borderline racist classic.  Even in those halcyon years though, the charts had lost some of the purity of the fifties when I Taut I Taw A Puddy Tat by Tweetie Pie was a beacon of quality pop music.

 

You didn't need organised movements in them days.  EVERYTHING was great.

 

Of course Itunes and the record companies don't give a fuck what you buy as long as you buy something and this is perfect for them to bring in the cynical generation x download market that don't ever buy downloads on this sort of principle.  Suckered.

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What are people's thoughts on the whole campaign of getting Jeff Buckley to no.1? If people don't know, his song "Hallelujah" has been covered by that X Factor winner in the hope of getting the no.1 Xmas spot. Buckley fans are trying to get his version there instead as a bit of a 2 fingered salute to the manufactured style of reality TV and the pop industry. At least that's what I see it as.

 

So what do you think about it? Is this campaign demeaning the value of a no.1 spot? That is, if there is much value in it still? Or is it a good thing to be supposedly sending a signal to manufactured pop, if it is?

 

Isn't Buckley's just a cover of the original by Leonard Cohen anyway? So Buckley's fans are sticking 2 fingers up at someone who covered his cover version of a song?

 

No value ever in the charts these days, it used to be the highlight of the week to listen to the charts to see who was at number one. Not so much now.

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What are people's thoughts on the whole campaign of getting Jeff Buckley to no.1? If people don't know, his song "Hallelujah" has been covered by that X Factor winner in the hope of getting the no.1 Xmas spot. Buckley fans are trying to get his version there instead as a bit of a 2 fingered salute to the manufactured style of reality TV and the pop industry. At least that's what I see it as.

 

So what do you think about it? Is this campaign demeaning the value of a no.1 spot? That is, if there is much value in it still? Or is it a good thing to be supposedly sending a signal to manufactured pop, if it is?

 

Leonard Coen originally did the song, like, but I agree with the sentiment, even though Buckley's was a cover too.

 

Top class cover, mind :)

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It's fucking stupid, now because i've always liked Jeff Buckley as an artist i'll probably be seen as a "follower" because of it. Let sleeping dogs lie, why would you buy it now? if you thought it was that good anyway you'd already have it.

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It's fucking stupid, now because i've always liked Jeff Buckley as an artist i'll probably be seen as a "follower" because of it. Let sleeping dogs lie, why would you buy it now? if you thought it was that good anyway you'd already have it.

 

Hello fellow music snob.  :smug:

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It's fucking stupid, now because i've always liked Jeff Buckley as an artist i'll probably be seen as a "follower" because of it. Let sleeping dogs lie, why would you buy it now? if you thought it was that good anyway you'd already have it.

 

I said that, I had a go at a mate because she was going on about how god Jeff Buckley is and she's not even got Grace!

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Simon Cowell owns the rights to all three versions of Hallilujah anyway, so this is a pretty feeble way of sticking two-fingers up at the X Factor, by ploughing money into the pockets of its main architect.  He's also on record as saying that the Buckley version is one of his favourite songs of all time, so I can't imagine he'd be too bothered about having the two versions at number one and two in the charts.

 

Does it really look like a backlash anyway?  Or does it just come acorss as "X Factor is so huge and popular that the choice of christmas single reignited intrest in the Jeff Buckley version to the extent that it shot up the charts to number 3 in the weeks following the final" or whatever?

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To be honest, I have always liked Jeff Buckley's version. Grace was voted in the top 5 albums of all time. However I don't think this new version is too bad. Its nice to hear covers that are done well. There have been some songs that have just been horrendous and killed any emotion that the previous versions had.

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It's fucking stupid, now because i've always liked Jeff Buckley as an artist i'll probably be seen as a "follower" because of it. Let sleeping dogs lie, why would you buy it now? if you thought it was that good anyway you'd already have it.

 

:lol: amen.

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To be honest i would rather people focused on a violent hate campaign against those who buy x-factor singles.

 

I'd rather people just let others get on with whatever they want to do.

 

The music charts in this country have long since had little to no relevance to the actual quality of musician's output. Getting Rick Astley or Jeff Buckley there as a protest of sorts isn't going to change anything.

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What are people's thoughts on the whole campaign of getting Jeff Buckley to no.1? If people don't know, his song "Hallelujah" has been covered by that X Factor winner in the hope of getting the no.1 Xmas spot. Buckley fans are trying to get his version there instead as a bit of a 2 fingered salute to the manufactured style of reality TV and the pop industry. At least that's what I see it as.

 

So what do you think about it? Is this campaign demeaning the value of a no.1 spot? That is, if there is much value in it still? Or is it a good thing to be supposedly sending a signal to manufactured pop, if it is?

 

Buckley fans are obviously pretty dim. It's not his song. It was written by Leonard Cohen and covered by all sorts of people before Buckley did it. John Cale's is the best version.

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I should probably point out I'm not particularly a fan of Buckley myself, not really heard much of his stuff. Just a thought-provoker.

 

I think the heart of the matter is the value of the no.1 spot. It's merely symbolic, and even now its losing, or has lost, its symbolism.

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