Shearergol Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 has craig david appeared yet on ssn or what whats going on with this window, im lost It's closed. We've signed Taylor today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexf Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 has craig david appeared yet on ssn or what whats going on with this window, im lost im still waiting for him to come back on because we never got confirmation that we were done for the day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mofo Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 There was absolutely no reason whatsoever not to insist upon getting Johnson as part of the Given deal if we really wanted him. Stinks to high heaven, this whole thing. Mother fucking this? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karjala Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 How much does the 17th place team get in prize money? Ashley will pocket that too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 Wouldn't amaze me if David Craig knew full well fuck all was happening and just stood there all day to keep the viewing figures nice and high. Those stupid Newcastle fans, they'll be tuned in all day if we present from the training ground or something. And it worked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sicko2ndbest Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 Boys i'm sorry, but i think we all need to take a trip to see an osteopath. Its no good spending all day bending over and taking it up the ass like we have today! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatwax Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 Boys i'm sorry, but i think we all need to take a trip to see an osteopath. Its no good spending all day bending over and taking it up the ass like we have today! Black power?! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
quayside Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 £3m profit for the club, Ashley must be laughing all the way to the bank! OK, I realise people are pissed off, but why has the finances thread been forgotten? The club is losing £20m a season. How exactly is Ashely pocketing cash? It's not.. Just a paper "loss".. OK, Ashley is putting £20m a year in to cover wages. Better? Nope, we made a loss due to player amortisation. Means nothing in terms of cash flow. I see. So in terms of cash flow where did the £30 million of new cash that Ashley put into the club during the year end up then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sicko2ndbest Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 Boys i'm sorry, but i think we all need to take a trip to see an osteopath. Its no good spending all day bending over and taking it up the ass like we have today! Black power?! whatever floats your boat Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 £3m profit for the club, Ashley must be laughing all the way to the bank! OK, I realise people are pissed off, but why has the finances thread been forgotten? The club is losing £20m a season. How exactly is Ashely pocketing cash? It's not.. Just a paper "loss".. OK, Ashley is putting £20m a year in to cover wages. Better? Nope, we made a loss due to player amortisation. Means nothing in terms of cash flow. I see. So in terms of cash flow where did the £30 million of new cash that Ashley put into the club during the year end up then? I'd be interested in seeing that actually. What was the clubs total cash coming in and total cash going out? (so no amortisation, none of Ashley's money ect, just club revenue minus real cash costs). I'm not claiming he's made money by the way, I'd just be interested in seeing that if you'd be so kind, just whenever you've got time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
quayside Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 £3m profit for the club, Ashley must be laughing all the way to the bank! OK, I realise people are pissed off, but why has the finances thread been forgotten? The club is losing £20m a season. How exactly is Ashely pocketing cash? It's not.. Just a paper "loss".. OK, Ashley is putting £20m a year in to cover wages. Better? Nope, we made a loss due to player amortisation. Means nothing in terms of cash flow. I see. So in terms of cash flow where did the £30 million of new cash that Ashley put into the club during the year end up then? I'd be interested in seeing that actually. What was the clubs total cash coming in and total cash going out? (so no amortisation, none of Ashley's money ect, just club revenue minus real cash costs). I'm not claiming he's made money by the way, I'd just be interested in seeing that if you'd be so kind, just whenever you've got time. Its on the finances thread but I'll stick it on here as well: This is a basic cash flow for the year ended 30th June 2008 Cash out from day to day operations £5 million (Income roughly £99m less wages £70m and other operating costs about £34m) Interest paid on loans that have now been repaid £8 million Money paid out for players bought £27 million Money paid out for other assets £3 million Loan repaid £70 million Total out = £113 million Money in from sale of players £8 million Net cash going out = £105 million (£100 million funded by Ashley, the rest by the bank) So Ashley put in £100 million of which £70 million paid off old debt, meaning £30 million was used to keep the club going. There's no "paper loss" about that £30 million. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 We will have signed a big name player on the sly Will be released tomorrow Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted February 3, 2009 Share Posted February 3, 2009 We will have signed a big name player on the sly Will be released tomorrow Romario, out of retirement, thats what Wise was doing in Brazil. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest toonlass Posted February 3, 2009 Share Posted February 3, 2009 How much does the 17th place team get in prize money? Ashley will pocket that too. Bullshit. I'm no Ashley supporter, but so far he has put money into the club and there is no evidence of him taking anything out. Ok he is crap at running the club and that needs to be sorted damn quick, but he is not Freddy Shepherd who was happy to line his pockets with a paycheck. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted February 3, 2009 Share Posted February 3, 2009 http://www.nufc.premiumtv.co.uk/staticFiles/4e/24/0,,10278~140366,00.pdf Could be an interesting way for unhappy people to contact the club in their numbers if co-ordinated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted February 3, 2009 Share Posted February 3, 2009 http://www.nufc.premiumtv.co.uk/staticFiles/4e/24/0,,10278~140366,00.pdf Could be an interesting way for unhappy people to contact the club in their numbers if co-ordinated. They are £75 and using that as a way of getting at Ashley shows a complete lack of respect for the many families who have stones for loved ones that have passed away. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sicko2ndbest Posted February 3, 2009 Share Posted February 3, 2009 http://www.nufc.premiumtv.co.uk/staticFiles/4e/24/0,,10278~140366,00.pdf Could be an interesting way for unhappy people to contact the club in their numbers if co-ordinated. They are £75 and using that as a way of getting at Ashley shows a complete lack of respect for the many families who have stones for loved ones that have passed away. Agree Fake messages Fake credit card details is the answer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 3, 2009 Share Posted February 3, 2009 http://www.nufc.premiumtv.co.uk/staticFiles/4e/24/0,,10278~140366,00.pdf Could be an interesting way for unhappy people to contact the club in their numbers if co-ordinated. What a mongoloid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted February 3, 2009 Share Posted February 3, 2009 How much does the 17th place team get in prize money? Ashley will pocket that too. Bullshit. I'm no Ashley supporter, but so far he has put money into the club and there is no evidence of him taking anything out. Ok he is crap at running the club and that needs to be sorted damn quick, but he is not Freddy Shepherd who was happy to line his pockets with a paycheck. do you line your pockets with a paycheck btw? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted February 8, 2009 Share Posted February 8, 2009 Forgot about this. The money we paid out for players compared to what we brought in is a little bit odd. We spent about £45 million on players and sold players for nearly £40 million in the period covered by these accounts. Yet while we paid out £27 million we only brought in £8 million. Obviously transfer fee's are usually paid in instalments and even past transfers will be included in the actual paid out and brought in numbers. However I just find the difference between them strange. Anyway to the cash flow. So basically it was £113 million spent by the club on wages, loan interest, buying players and operating costs and £107 brought back in from club revenue and player sales. While Ashley took on £70 million of the club debt interest free. So the actual short fall in club cash flow was £6 million. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
quayside Posted February 8, 2009 Share Posted February 8, 2009 Forgot about this. The money we paid out for players compared to what we brought in is a little bit odd. We spent about £45 million on players and sold players for nearly £40 million in the period covered by these accounts. Yet while we paid out £27 million we only brought in £8 million. Obviously transfer fee's are usually paid in instalments and even past transfers will be included in the actual paid out and brought in numbers. However I just find the difference between them strange. Anyway to the cash flow. So basically it was £113 million spent by the club on wages, loan interest, buying players and operating costs and £107 brought back in from club revenue and player sales. While Ashley took on £70 million of the club debt interest free. So the actual short fall in club cash flow was £6 million. Who were the players sold for £40 million in the period to 30 June 2008? Thinking back I can remember Parker and Dyer going for money. Luque also may have gone for money but not for much (the club suubstantially wrote his value down to reflect the sum received). Bramble, Moore and a few others went for nothing. Anyone else go for money? Also don't follow where you get that figure of 113 million spent by the club from: Wages 70m loan interest 8m Buying players 27m Operating costs 34m Those add up to £139 million (not £113 million) The club also spent £3 million on other assets leaving a total outward spend of £142 million Money in was £99 million income and £8 million from players sales = £107 million So the cash loss was £142m less £107m which = £35 million, And, as I said, Ashley funded £30 million of it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Heneage Posted February 8, 2009 Share Posted February 8, 2009 http://www.nufc.premiumtv.co.uk/staticFiles/4e/24/0,,10278~140366,00.pdf Could be an interesting way for unhappy people to contact the club in their numbers if co-ordinated. They are £75 and using that as a way of getting at Ashley shows a complete lack of respect for the many families who have stones for loved ones that have passed away. True there are a lot of lovely messages on those stones why be so childish as to ruin them with Anti Ashley messages. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thespence Posted February 8, 2009 Share Posted February 8, 2009 http://www.nufc.premiumtv.co.uk/staticFiles/4e/24/0,,10278~140366,00.pdf Could be an interesting way for unhappy people to contact the club in their numbers if co-ordinated. Or people could try one of the following: How to contact the Club Newcastle United has a new telephone number- 0844 372 1892 Whether you want the latest ticket news, to buy a shirt from one of our stores, book a meeting room or hospitality suite or speak to Customer Services, you should dial 0844 372 1892. For specific services please dial: Shearers Bar Enquiries: 0844 372 1892 ext. 8688 Press and Publications Press Office : 0844 372 1892 ext. 8420 Photography : 0844 372 1892 ext. 8579 Programme Subscriptions : 08700 20 20 20 Programme Advertising : 020 7332 6286 Publications Editor : 0844 372 1892 ext. 8579 Club Services Learning Centre : 0844 372 1892 ext. 8526 Lost Property : 0844 372 1892 ext. 8469 Recruitment Enquiries : 0844 372 1892 ext. 8696 Academy Enquiries : 0191 215 3201 Lottery Enquiries : 0844 372 1892 ext. 8502 Customer comments, complaints or suggestions Please contact Customer Services between 9am - 5pm Monday to Friday. Telephone: 0844 372 1892 Email : [email protected] For all online technical queries please contact [email protected] Contact the Club by fax : Main Fax : 0191 201 8600 Matchday Corporate Hospitality : 0191 201 8602 Conference and Banqueting : 0191 201 8611 Academy : 0191 215 3217 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted February 8, 2009 Share Posted February 8, 2009 Who were the players sold for £40 million in the period to 30 June 2008? Thinking back I can remember Parker and Dyer going for money. Luque also may have gone for money but not for much (the club suubstantially wrote his value down to reflect the sum received). Bramble, Moore and a few others went for nothing. Anyone else go for money? Also don't follow where you get that figure of 113 million spent by the club from: Wages 70m loan interest 8m Buying players 27m Operating costs 34m Those add up to £139 million (not £113 million) The club also spent £3 million on other assets leaving a total outward spend of £142 million Money in was £99 million income and £8 million from players sales = £107 million So the cash loss was £142m less £107m which = £35 million, And, as I said, Ashley funded £30 million of it. The player sales I looked at were anyone bought and sold fron June 2007 until August 2008. Now why did I look up till August 2008 you say, well I was told by people on here that the likes of James Milners transfer was included in these accounts, despite happening in late August. Also I got the £113 million number from your post: This is a basic cash flow for the year ended 30th June 2008 Total out = £113 million Looking back at it I assume you didn't include the £34 million operating cost in the total out number for some reason, and I didn't catch it. Which brings me to a question, how the fuck are we spending £34 million on operating costs?! Surely that's not normal?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
quayside Posted February 8, 2009 Share Posted February 8, 2009 Who were the players sold for £40 million in the period to 30 June 2008? Thinking back I can remember Parker and Dyer going for money. Luque also may have gone for money but not for much (the club suubstantially wrote his value down to reflect the sum received). Bramble, Moore and a few others went for nothing. Anyone else go for money? Also don't follow where you get that figure of 113 million spent by the club from: Wages 70m loan interest 8m Buying players 27m Operating costs 34m Those add up to £139 million (not £113 million) The club also spent £3 million on other assets leaving a total outward spend of £142 million Money in was £99 million income and £8 million from players sales = £107 million So the cash loss was £142m less £107m which = £35 million, And, as I said, Ashley funded £30 million of it. The player sales I looked at were anyone bought and sold fron June 2007 until August 2008. Now why did I look up till August 2008 you say, well I was told by people on here that the likes of James Milners transfer was included in these accounts, despite happening in late August. Also I got the £113 million number from your post: This is a basic cash flow for the year ended 30th June 2008 Total out = £113 million Looking back at it I assume you didn't include the £34 million operating cost in the total out number for some reason, and I didn't catch it. Which brings me to a question, how the f*** are we spending £34 million on operating costs?! Surely that's not normal?? The £113 million you quoted is not made up the same way as the £113 million I quoted. Without going into a detailed and boring reconciliation please trust me when I say Ashley put in £30 million of new money. An analysis of the £34 million operating costs is not easy to get at. I havent got the accounts in front of me now but I'll see what I can get out tomorrow. Off the top of my head it is the running costs of SJP and the clubs other facilities. It also includes any costs such as the the catering provided, match day programmes, warehousing for merchandise etc. As I said I'll have a look tomorrow... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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