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It's happened in America aswell.  So fucked up.

 

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/18/20090311/twl-eleven-killed-in-alabama-shooting-sp-2802f3e.html

 

A gunman in the southern state of Alabama killed at least ten people in a shooting rampage before turning the gun fatally on himself, local authorities and state police said. Skip related content

 

Police have not released the name of the shooter nor have they said what the motive for the Tuesday killings may have been.

 

Authorities began to uncover the grisly aftermath of the gunman's rage late Tuesday afternoon, when four adults and a child were found shot dead inside a residence in the town of Samson, the Alabama Department of Public Safety said in a statement.

 

The victims included the wife of a Geneva County sheriff's deputy and a year-old child, according to local news reports. Another young child is reportedly hospitalized with gunshot injuries.

 

The shooter moved on to a second home and shot and killed another adult, then a third home and killed another adult, police said.

 

"It is believed the gunman left that location, travelling on Alabama route 52 where he shot at a state trooper's vehicle, striking the vehicle seven times and slightly wounding the trooper due to broken glass," it said.

 

The shooter pulled over on the road at Samson Pipe and Supply where he shot and killed a person, then shot dead yet another victim at a service station.

 

Sirens wailing, police chased the shooter to Reliable Metal Products, a local business located just north of the city of Geneva that makes parts for heating and air condition units, "where he fired an estimated 30-round burst.

 

"One bullet grazed the Geneva Police chief, who was saved from serious injury by his bullet-proof vest," the DPS statement read.

 

"The subject entered the business. Within minutes, shots were heard from within Reliable Metal, and law enforcement officers found him dead from what are believed to be self-inflicted gunshots."

 

Local television WEAR 3 News reported that the shooter had worked in the past at Reliable Metal, though it was unclear when or if he had been fired or laid off.

 

"This is a very complicated investigation that is unfolding," the Alabama DPS said.

 

Late Tuesday police also linked a fire at a Samson home to the shooter. One adult died in the blaze.

 

Much of the downtown area of Sampson, population 2,000, was cordoned off overnight as several police agencies investigated the shootings.

 

Police trooper Kevin Cook, spokesman for Alabama state troopers, told reporters the gunman used a semi-automatic weapon, but gave no further details.

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Its always going to happen, someone freaks out and goes on a rampage.  You cant stop it.  Remove guns, they will use knives and so on.

 

 

 

Wrong. Less casualties and more chance of stopping them or escaping from a knife-wielding lunatic.

 

Countries where guns are outlawed have usually a far lower murder rate than countries where they're easily accessible. Sure you're gonna get your lunatic once-in-a-while, but the frequency of guncrime and the ease with which one acquires the weapon is shockingly scary. I just don't see the point in anyone needing a gun, ever, unless you're in the Army or going hunting (which also I'm against, so there goes that :D).

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I thought Germany was the same as us and guns were banned unlike the US.

 

But you agree with me that if someone is going to spaz out then they will spaz out and grab what they can?

 

Unfortunately, yes. I lived in Croydon and in the year I moved away from there an attack took place where this mental naked guy borrowed a samurai sword and slashed a few in his local church before being wrestled down from the back. A few months ago in my local plaza a couple was stabbed to death by a madman with a knife.

 

These things happen. Someone once said our lives are all indebted to the murderers who haven't found us yet, or something like that.

 

*shrug*

 

But banning guns might just reduce the number of casualties, if not the number of overall mental lunatics.

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I thought Germany was the same as us and guns were banned unlike the US.

 

But you agree with me that if someone is going to spaz out then they will spaz out and grab what they can?

 

Unfortunately, yes. I lived in Croydon and in the year I moved away from there an attack took place where this mental naked guy borrowed a samurai sword and slashed a few in his local church before being wrestled down from the back. A few months ago in my local plaza a couple was stabbed to death by a madman with a knife.

 

These things happen. Someone once said our lives are all indebted to the murderers who haven't found us yet, or something like that.

 

*shrug*

 

But banning guns might just reduce the number of casualties, if not the number of overall mental lunatics.

 

guns also increase the severity of the injuries - you can kill a lot of people in a very short time with a gun

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At the very most, I think all a private citizen could ever possibly need would be a handgun, rifle, or shotgun.  It's ludicrous that here in the US you can still buy machine guns or high powered assault rifles fairly easily.  I hunt a good bit and everyone I know that hunts takes gun safety very seriously, but it just goes to show that isn't enough, I think there are still over 10,000 gun deaths in the US every year.

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At the very most, I think all a private citizen could ever possibly need would be a handgun, rifle, or shotgun.  It's ludicrous that here in the US you can still buy machine guns or high powered assault rifles fairly easily.  I hunt a good bit and everyone I know that hunts takes gun safety very seriously, but it just goes to show that isn't enough, I think there are still over 10,000 gun deaths in the US every year.

 

actually over 30,000 in the US, half of those suicides. Germany's rate of gun ownership is about 6 times higher than in the UK and their regulations far more lax than ours. The wider proliferation of guns in general circulation, the easier it is for nutters to acquire those weapons, legally or otherwise.

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I heard a tale once about some bloke going mental in Monkseaton and shooting at people on the street, round Churchill playing fields I think... Don't think anyone died. Anyone remember this? Might have been in the 70s or 80s?

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I heard a tale once about some bloke going mental in Monkseaton and shooting at people on the street, round Churchill playing fields I think... Don't think anyone died. Anyone remember this? Might have been in the 70s or 80s?

i remember. wasn't long after hungerford i think. 1 person got injured i think.

 

it gave rise to the joke. how do you get to whitley bay ?  well you shoot through monkseaton.........................

 

 

edit....infact there was a murrrda.....http://www.newsguardian.co.uk/latest-news/Shooting-survivors-call-for-law.4273728.jp

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I heard a tale once about some bloke going mental in Monkseaton and shooting at people on the street, round Churchill playing fields I think... Don't think anyone died. Anyone remember this? Might have been in the 70s or 80s?

 

Yeah, Robert Sartin - went to my school :/

 

Was in the paper again a few years ago because someone thought Laser Quest would be a good venue for his day trip from the mental hospital.

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I heard a tale once about some bloke going mental in Monkseaton and shooting at people on the street, round Churchill playing fields I think... Don't think anyone died. Anyone remember this? Might have been in the 70s or 80s?

i remember. wasn't long after hungerford i think. 1 person got injured i think.

 

it gave rise to the joke. how do you get to whitley bay ?  well you shoot through monkseaton.........................

 

 

edit....infact there was a murrrda.....http://www.newsguardian.co.uk/latest-news/Shooting-survivors-call-for-law.4273728.jp

 

I remember this well. I was at Whitley Bay seafront when loads of police cars went past with the lights and sirens going. I had a friend in the street where the person was killed.

 

While checking this in Google I found this: -

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?p=361579

It's scary how many nutters there are in the world.

 

Thanks for the info. Funny I can't remember it happening at all, even though I lived in Cullercoats at the time.

 

Edit: never heard the shoot thorugh Monkseaton joke either!

 

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