BlueStar Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 Are they getting worse? I'm used to just rolling my eyes at them and thinking people shouldn't get too worked up about the kind of stuff they spew out but recently... http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/4551/n5587349263635882798795.jpg http://www.thepickards.co.uk/index.php/200903/sunday-express-lashes-out-at-dunblane-survivors/ This was the front of the Scottish Daily Express the other day. They've basically waited till the kids who survived the Dunblane massacre hit 18 and trawled social networking sites to find out if any of them have been drinking, swearing or making rude gestures to the camera and spread them across the first three pages of the paper so it can accuse them of "shaming" their classmates who died. I mean, what the fuck? The Sunday Express can reveal how, on their web-based social networking sites, some of them have boasted about alcoholic binges and fights. For instance, [name removed] — who was hit by a single bullet and watched in horror as his classmates died — makes rude gestures in pictures he posted on his Bebo site, and boasts of drunken nights out. Oh no! A teenager who survived being shot by a madman actually acting like a teenager? Lock him up! On the plus side it's getting them investigated by the IPCC http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2009/mar/16/pcc-targets-sunday-express-over-dunblane-claims Peter Hitchens in the Daily Mail yesterday, saying that women who get raped after drinking deserve less sympathy and are "culpable, just as she would be culpable if she crashed a car and injured someone while drunk, or stepped out into the traffic while drunk and was run over." http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1045954/PETER-HITCHENS-How-Left-censored-blindingly-obvious-truth-rape.html Really thought I was past being even the slightest bit bothered by this kind of thing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 That's a disgrace. Ironic that it's these right-wing lunatics who are actually the danger to society. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedro111 Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 What a disgrace. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveItIfWeBeatU Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 Newspaper circulations are falling. One good way to generate sales is by having sensationalist, reactionary headlines on the front cover for people to talk about. I don't read newspapers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest toonlass Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 I think if I had been shot by a gunman and watched as my classmates and teachers had died in front of me when I was tiny I would probably be on more than just the normal teenage drinking binge. What do these newspapers want the Dunblane survivors to be like? Zombies who have no emotions, no normality? FFS is scandalisation at its worst. Maybe they should leave the bairns alone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 Lad I lived with in first year was from Dunblane, same year as Andy Murray I think, he was in the school at the time of the shootings - just remembers it as a time of 'lots of days of school and a weird atmosphere around the place' He liked a drink or two as well Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ikri Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 But without the Hate Mail who will we know who we're meant to hate this week? Both the Mail and the Express are complete jokes of newspapers. Their reporting is a mess and their bias couldn't be more obvious if it jumped up and slapped you in the face. They've become so predictable that people have made fairly accurate Daily Mail Headline Generators and the superb twat-o-tron for Daily Mail & BBC Have Your Say comments pages. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 Just spotted that one blog has turned the tables and done some cherry picking from the author of the articles social networking sites http://www.bloggerheads.com/archives/2009/03/paula_murray_drinks.asp Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 I get the Daily Mail now and again on a sunday when theres something with it thats interesting. Like a while back they had those posters every week with different types of wildlife. I dont buy papers in general, but at the same time I dont understand it when people get papers that have opinions theyre always going to agree with. At least in buying a newspaper you disagree with your seeing things from another side, as opposed being preached to as the converted. This story on the other hand.....disgusting. But its provoked a reaction, and thats good I guess. But yeah, its too far I think. They should be punished for printing such a non-story in such a derogatory and disgusting way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 I only really read the times regularly, but even they have a certain take on things. No where near as bad as the daily fail though. I suppose it was only a matter of time, that they turned from being racist and started picking on everyone else in society. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzzieMandias Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 One of the great pleasures of living abroad is that things like the Daily Hatemail pretty much cease to bother you. There are crap newspapers here, too, but I don't even really notice them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 http://whythatsdelightful.wordpress.com/2009/03/18/the-express-wins-the-race-to-the-bottom/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Icke - Son of God Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 I get the Daily Mail now and again on a sunday when theres something with it thats interesting. Like a while back they had those posters every week with different types of wildlife. I dont buy papers in general, but at the same time I dont understand it when people get papers that have opinions theyre always going to agree with. At least in buying a newspaper you disagree with your seeing things from another side, as opposed being preached to as the converted. That's the saddest thing about newspapers nowadays - it's more to do with opinion and spin than actual news. They're playing to an audience rather than reporting the facts. In my experience as both a journo and a newspaper reader the only two genuine newspapers on the market today are The Guardian and The Times. Everything else isn't worth the paper they're printed on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 http://www.bloggerheads.com/archives/2009/03/paula_murray_drinks.asp Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 Passively, I see it as a slow news day. Otherwise, I find her pathetic, with journalistic skills that rank alongside those of a piece of cheese. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 Passively, I see it as a slow news day. Otherwise, I find her pathetic, with journalistic skills that rank alongside those of a piece of cheese. Paula Murray Cheese ------ Nixon ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 Passively, I see it as a slow news day. Otherwise, I find her pathetic, with journalistic skills that rank alongside those of a piece of cheese. Paula Murray Cheese ------ Nixon ? Alan Oliver? They're like a crimefighting quartet.... who do more damage than good Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowen Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 I get the Daily Mail now and again on a sunday when theres something with it thats interesting. Like a while back they had those posters every week with different types of wildlife. I dont buy papers in general, but at the same time I dont understand it when people get papers that have opinions theyre always going to agree with. At least in buying a newspaper you disagree with your seeing things from another side, as opposed being preached to as the converted. That's the saddest thing about newspapers nowadays - it's more to do with opinion and spin than actual news. They're playing to an audience rather than reporting the facts. In my experience as both a journo and a newspaper reader the only two genuine newspapers on the market today are The Guardian and The Times. Everything else isn't worth the paper they're printed on. I'm just down to the indie now. Got bored of the Guardian telling me what to think, and I'm suspicious of anything owned by Rupert Murdoch. I thought the mail and express couldn't shock me any more, but that dunblane story.... fuck me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest toonlass Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 Yep, its the Indie for me too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giselle Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 I get the Daily Mail now and again on a sunday when theres something with it thats interesting. Like a while back they had those posters every week with different types of wildlife. I dont buy papers in general, but at the same time I dont understand it when people get papers that have opinions theyre always going to agree with. At least in buying a newspaper you disagree with your seeing things from another side, as opposed being preached to as the converted. This story on the other hand.....disgusting. But its provoked a reaction, and thats good I guess. But yeah, its too far I think. They should be punished for printing such a non-story in such a derogatory and disgusting way. I read The Guardian and The Independent and yes, I agree that certain newspapers will have certain biases but each newspaper also has stories on certain subjects that are printed more regularly than others. The Independent, for example, will be more likely to print stories on global warming and scientific research than celebrity gossip (or shit like this Dunblane thing that the Mail have printed), and that's why I buy it - because I get to read about issues which I care about. Obviously you supplement it by buying specific magazines (like the New Scientist and the Economist) but newspapers just give a daily picture of the stuff that you care about. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiquidAK Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 But without the Hate Mail who will we know who we're meant to hate this week? Both the Mail and the Express are complete jokes of newspapers. Their reporting is a mess and their bias couldn't be more obvious if it jumped up and slapped you in the face. They've become so predictable that people have made fairly accurate Daily Mail Headline Generators and the superb twat-o-tron for Daily Mail & BBC Have Your Say comments pages. "COULD ASYLUM SEEKERS HAVE SEX WITH COMMON SENSE AND DECENCY?" "HAS THE EURO KILLED CLIFF RICHARD?" "COULD THE GERMANS INFECT THE MEMORY OF DIANA WITH AIDS?" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest toonlass Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 COULD GYPSIES KILL PROPERTY PRICES? WILL JACQUI SMITH STEAL FROM THE ROYAL FAMILY? IS THE E.U. IMPREGNATING YOUR MORTGAGE? COULD THE NANNY STATE GIVE THE MIDDLE CLASS CANCER? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Icke - Son of God Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 I get the Daily Mail now and again on a sunday when theres something with it thats interesting. Like a while back they had those posters every week with different types of wildlife. I dont buy papers in general, but at the same time I dont understand it when people get papers that have opinions theyre always going to agree with. At least in buying a newspaper you disagree with your seeing things from another side, as opposed being preached to as the converted. That's the saddest thing about newspapers nowadays - it's more to do with opinion and spin than actual news. They're playing to an audience rather than reporting the facts. In my experience as both a journo and a newspaper reader the only two genuine newspapers on the market today are The Guardian and The Times. Everything else isn't worth the paper they're printed on. I'm just down to the indie now. Got bored of the Guardian telling me what to think, and I'm suspicious of anything owned by Rupert Murdoch. I thought the mail and express couldn't shock me any more, but that dunblane story.... fuck me I find it to be the complete opposite. The Independent is more preachy whereas the Grauniad seems to be able to seperate fact and opinion fairly well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest toonlass Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 HAS FEMINISM TURNED HOMEOWNERS GAY? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowen Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 I get the Daily Mail now and again on a sunday when theres something with it thats interesting. Like a while back they had those posters every week with different types of wildlife. I dont buy papers in general, but at the same time I dont understand it when people get papers that have opinions theyre always going to agree with. At least in buying a newspaper you disagree with your seeing things from another side, as opposed being preached to as the converted. That's the saddest thing about newspapers nowadays - it's more to do with opinion and spin than actual news. They're playing to an audience rather than reporting the facts. In my experience as both a journo and a newspaper reader the only two genuine newspapers on the market today are The Guardian and The Times. Everything else isn't worth the paper they're printed on. I'm just down to the indie now. Got bored of the Guardian telling me what to think, and I'm suspicious of anything owned by Rupert Murdoch. I thought the mail and express couldn't shock me any more, but that dunblane story.... fuck me I find it to be the complete opposite. The Independent is more preachy whereas the Grauniad seems to be able to seperate fact and opinion fairly well. Interesting. I used to get the guardie nigh on every day in uni when it was only 20p, but it was starting to piss me off, and came to a head with one article I thought was completely outrageous (can't even remember what it was about tbf ) Enjoyed the indie a lot more over the last twelve months or so, but I get papers far less frequently now, so it's less likely to grind on me. Now I'm working I don't find time to do things like read papers, I only get about 50 mins reading time on trains a day, I sleep on the way home and I want to enjoy my journey in, so I read a book. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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