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I don't want a cheap car, just cheap fuel. Said everyone ever.

 

Cheers Stifler. Target mpg in these is 67mpg. I'm only getting 45 in my fiesta so doubt that that's realistic

 

Good luck getting 67 out of one! I wasn't close when I rented the thing and mine was just a 5 door hatch, expect more like 50 if you're driving sensibly.

 

It felt like I was getting 10mpg more than I would have from my Petrol Scirocco.

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Ordered a Ford Focus 1.6 TDCi Zetec Navigator estate. Had a test drive and loved it, such a jump up from my 11 plate Fiesta Zetec.

 

Bloke said to always take 15 off the mpg the brochures tell you, so 50 sounds right really.

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Regarding the choice between a Petrol or a Diesel engine, if you do lots of long journeys the Diesel is probably the way to go. If you do lots of short journeys go for Petrol. Diesel engines do not like short journeys. Diesel engined cars usually cost quite a bit more than the Petrol engined equivalent. If the Diesel engined model costs £11,000 and the Petrol engined model costs £10,000 then it will take quite a while for the Diesel engined car to make up that £1000 difference. Diesel engines cost more to service and are usually more expensive to fix.

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Although petrol engines may have caught up a little with diesel over recent years I think if you do a lot of miles (I've done 8500 since mid October) you can't go wrong with a diesel still. I got a Merc A-class CDI in mid October which costs around 70 quid to fill up, a tenner more than my old VW Fox, for 200-250 more miles per tank. I recently got it up to 80mpg on a trip back from Liverpool (when I wasn't rushing!).

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Well they've quoted me £730 for the oil usage repair. That's with Audi paying for all the parts and the dealer 70% of the labour leaving me to pay the 30%.

 

I'm going to moan at Audi UK to see if that will help but if I don't get anywhere I'm not sure what to do. Even eating oil like it does, £730 buys about 50,000 miles' worth of oil and I'll have got rid of it by then. On the other hand my car is instantly worth a load less because technically it's faulty and needs a repair. I asked if they'd give me market value for it tomorrow knowing that it needs a significant engine rebuild and they couldn't answer.

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Well they've quoted me £730 for the oil usage repair. That's with Audi paying for all the parts and the dealer 70% of the labour leaving me to pay the 30%.

 

I'm going to moan at Audi UK to see if that will help but if I don't get anywhere I'm not sure what to do. Even eating oil like it does, £730 buys about 50,000 miles' worth of oil and I'll have got rid of it by then. On the other hand my car is instantly worth a load less because technically it's faulty and needs a repair. I asked if they'd give me market value for it tomorrow knowing that it needs a significant engine rebuild and they couldn't answer.

 

That's total bollocks that like, how can a new car need an engine rebuilt after so few miles. Keep hammering at them Dave.

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Well they've quoted me £730 for the oil usage repair. That's with Audi paying for all the parts and the dealer 70% of the labour leaving me to pay the 30%.

 

I'm going to moan at Audi UK to see if that will help but if I don't get anywhere I'm not sure what to do. Even eating oil like it does, £730 buys about 50,000 miles' worth of oil and I'll have got rid of it by then. On the other hand my car is instantly worth a load less because technically it's faulty and needs a repair. I asked if they'd give me market value for it tomorrow knowing that it needs a significant engine rebuild and they couldn't answer.

 

Can you not just part ex it for something else?

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It's paid off and I was hoping to keep it until work make me buy a new one in a couple of years. It's ideal for us, this issue aside.

 

See if the dealer will give you a deal on a new or nearly new one as a gesture of goodwill. They can lose the cost of the repair in their margin.

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What percentage of the total worth of the car is £730? Is it not just worth taking the hit? £730 vs £20K+? By all means try your luck complaining to Audi.

 

I was stung a few years ago by Mazda for a replacement part for the Dynamic Stability System. They did a 'goodwill' discount on the price of the fix by 75% to around £350. The part failure was a well known problem but as it usually took 3 to 4 years from new to occur they didn't seem to fix any of them for free. I sent a complaint about having to pay for a repair to a known issue to Mazda customer services but they never replied. The same problem occurred on Golfs, Tourans, Leons, Alteas, Toledos, Octavias, BMW 1 Series, BMW 3 Series, Peugeot 407s, and Volvo S40s/V50s.

 

Is your car an Audi A5? It seems they have a lot of reported issues: -

http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/carbycar/audi/a5-2007/?section=good

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Most of them I haven't experienced or are actually pretty minor. The oil thing is mentioned a few times though, the bottom one is exactly the same as me! :laugh:

 

The thing about taking the hit is as I mentioned; it wouldn't actually save me anything (except the hassle of adding oil every two weeks). I'll be forced by work to get rid of it before I'd have spent that kind of money on oil.

 

It's paid off and I was hoping to keep it until work make me buy a new one in a couple of years. It's ideal for us, this issue aside.

 

See if the dealer will give you a deal on a new or nearly new one as a gesture of goodwill. They can lose the cost of the repair in their margin.

 

Need the money...

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Most of them I haven't experienced or are actually pretty minor. The oil thing is mentioned a few times though, the bottom one is exactly the same as me! :laugh:

 

The thing about taking the hit is as I mentioned; it wouldn't actually save me anything (except the hassle of adding oil every two weeks). I'll be forced by work to get rid of it before I'd have spent that kind of money on oil.

 

It's paid off and I was hoping to keep it until work make me buy a new one in a couple of years. It's ideal for us, this issue aside.

 

See if the dealer will give you a deal on a new or nearly new one as a gesture of goodwill. They can lose the cost of the repair in their margin.

 

Need the money...

 

Fair dos. In which case I'd be inclined to tell them you think you've got a case and are planning to go down the legal route unless they do it for free.

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When I bought the Merc it had a brake malfunction warning on the onboard computer which the dealer said only a Merc specialist would be able to fix so they booked it in with a specialist. We'll it turns out the malfunction is quite serious and the part alone will cost 1500 quid. On top of that parktronic and distronic are not functioning properly due to some broken sensors. Anyway the dealer true to their word will pay for the brake malfunction costs and it seems the sensors thing too all of which won't effect the warranty either as the two are separate. The Merc specialist is an indie and seems a good one, he even reprogrammed my car for free and reset several error codes and outside of the brakes and airmatic suspension I'm informed these cars are bulletproof.

 

I don't know how he did it but the mirrors fold automatically when I lock the car, headlamps, wipers and washers come on automatically as does adaptive cornering lights for country roads, automatic mirror dimming comes on automatically now too as does my seat and steering settings. Now I just need to suss out parktronic and distronic when it's fixed and the linguistic stuff RE phone, cd and sat nav. Oh and the paddle shift gears, which I don't like one bit but I'm told using makes the car far more fun driving.

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This particular part is supposedly built for life and in some rare extreme cases can be had from Merc for free as a result, but only if your car has full main dealer service history. Mine doesn't. The brakes on my car are or were at the time pretty revolutionary and therefore very expensive. They are there to stop a 550bhp car capable of 0-60 in 4.5 seconds and a top speed limited of 155mph, within a super fast time. Apparently Merc no longer fit this braking system due to the costs. The dealer said once it's fixed that's it, only pads and discs will ever need replaced. I've researched my car to fuck and it seems running costs wise it's no different to say a high end BMW or Audi, nowhere near your Porsches or Masseratties for example.

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Well, my car has been with Mercedes all day and the dealer has just phoned me to tell me that the brake system will at some point very soon, fail completely according to Mercedes. The total repair bill? 2.5K! Because the original part/s are meant to have a lifetime warranty, however, Merc themselves will contribute £1,750 with the dealer paying the rest. No cost to me and it doesn't effect my warranty either thankfully. The dealer will also fix the faulty parking sensors for free. It means I'm without my car for a week or so but at least a major major problem with this particular car is to be fixed and once its fixed it will last a decade or so. Researching the car before I bought it did reveal that the brake pump system can go and that its a hefty repair bill.

 

There are lots of owners on various forums who have had Merc cover the full repair cost or most of it due to the potential fatal consequences a total brake failure can lead to, but only for cars with a full MB main dealer service history. My car doesn't have a full Merc service history so the dealer I bought it from must of used their own clout and put pressure on Merc themselves to contribute the majority of the repair bill/costs which is good stuff all-round. No wonder they have a different brake system for their AMG models these days :D

 

For me, if this had been any other car, buying it and then losing it for a week or so due to a major repair bill, it would royally piss me off, but in these cars, that brake failure is going to happen at some point so I'm actually pleased its happened now and the dealer to be fair to them have been sound with everything.

 

Hopefully that's the last of any major repair bill for a good while.

 

In other news, one of our work vans needs a new clutch and gearbox...  :dave:

 

It has made us a lot of money in the 4 or so years we've owned it and it has done some mega drives, the furthers to Plymouth and back in 1 day, but fuck me we've had some problems with it.

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What's 'Motor Legal Expenses Insurance'? I've got an email from First Insurance asking if I want to renew it, can't remember even paying for it, they did sort my Insurance out with Arriva though.

 

Is it not just extra cover for legal expenses as obvious as that sounds? I was limited to 5K on my cover and for 30 quid I got it to any amount.

 

Aviva are wankers btw. Mind, aren't all insurance companies!

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Well, my car has been with Mercedes all day and the dealer has just phoned me to tell me that the brake system will at some point very soon, fail completely according to Mercedes. The total repair bill? 2.5K! Because the original part/s are meant to have a lifetime warranty, however, Merc themselves will contribute £1,750 with the dealer paying the rest. No cost to me and it doesn't effect my warranty either thankfully. The dealer will also fix the faulty parking sensors for free. It means I'm without my car for a week or so but at least a major major problem with this particular car is to be fixed and once its fixed it will last a decade or so. Researching the car before I bought it did reveal that the brake pump system can go and that its a hefty repair bill.

 

There are lots of owners on various forums who have had Merc cover the full repair cost or most of it due to the potential fatal consequences a total brake failure can lead to, but only for cars with a full MB main dealer service history. My car doesn't have a full Merc service history so the dealer I bought it from must of used their own clout and put pressure on Merc themselves to contribute the majority of the repair bill/costs which is good stuff all-round. No wonder they have a different brake system for their AMG models these days :D

 

For me, if this had been any other car, buying it and then losing it for a week or so due to a major repair bill, it would royally piss me off, but in these cars, that brake failure is going to happen at some point so I'm actually pleased its happened now and the dealer to be fair to them have been sound with everything.

 

Hopefully that's the last of any major repair bill for a good while.

 

In other news, one of our work vans needs a new clutch and gearbox...  :dave:

 

It has made us a lot of money in the 4 or so years we've owned it and it has done some mega drives, the furthers to Plymouth and back in 1 day, but fuck me we've had some problems with it.

 

Ridiculous, man. Fair play to you for getting your dream car but for the money you're talking I can't help thinking you could've got something that performs better, looks better and costs far less.

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Well, my car has been with Mercedes all day and the dealer has just phoned me to tell me that the brake system will at some point very soon, fail completely according to Mercedes. The total repair bill? 2.5K! Because the original part/s are meant to have a lifetime warranty, however, Merc themselves will contribute £1,750 with the dealer paying the rest. No cost to me and it doesn't effect my warranty either thankfully. The dealer will also fix the faulty parking sensors for free. It means I'm without my car for a week or so but at least a major major problem with this particular car is to be fixed and once its fixed it will last a decade or so. Researching the car before I bought it did reveal that the brake pump system can go and that its a hefty repair bill.

 

There are lots of owners on various forums who have had Merc cover the full repair cost or most of it due to the potential fatal consequences a total brake failure can lead to, but only for cars with a full MB main dealer service history. My car doesn't have a full Merc service history so the dealer I bought it from must of used their own clout and put pressure on Merc themselves to contribute the majority of the repair bill/costs which is good stuff all-round. No wonder they have a different brake system for their AMG models these days :D

 

For me, if this had been any other car, buying it and then losing it for a week or so due to a major repair bill, it would royally p*ss me off, but in these cars, that brake failure is going to happen at some point so I'm actually pleased its happened now and the dealer to be fair to them have been sound with everything.

 

Hopefully that's the last of any major repair bill for a good while.

 

In other news, one of our work vans needs a new clutch and gearbox...  :dave:

 

It has made us a lot of money in the 4 or so years we've owned it and it has done some mega drives, the furthers to Plymouth and back in 1 day, but f*** me we've had some problems with it.

 

Ridiculous, man. Fair play to you for getting your dream car but for the money you're talking I can't help thinking you could've got something that performs better, looks better and costs far less.

 

Its one of the world's most powerful cars and performs brilliantly, even in the wet it will out handle any Focus, Golf etc. Looks wise, it has its critics but for me its a beautiful and unique car. I love it. For my money the only thing I think I could have done better on is practicality and of course running costs. Power, luxury, performance, looks and exclusiveness though and I'd be hard pressed to find something like my car. And even then it seats 4 adults comfortably and the boot is huge so its not that impractical.

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Hi...I looked at the new Qashqai today...quite impressed..but it's 1.5 engine.... I've always had 1.6 or 1.8...Anybody got one thanks.

How do the power and torque figures of the 1.5 engine (see below) compare with the 1.6 or 1.8 engines you've had?

 

http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/road-tests/nissan/nissan-qashqai-2014-road-test/?section=engine

 

1.2 DIG-T (1197cc) 4-cylinder in line turbocharged petrol, six-speed manual: 115PS at 4500rpm; 190Nm torque at 2000rpm.

 

1.5 dCi (1461cc) 4-cylinder in line turbodiesel, six-speed manual: 110PS at 4000rpm; 260Nm torque at 1750rpm-2500rpm.

 

1.6 dCi (1598cc) 4-cylinder in line turbodiesel, six-speed manual (optional CVT): 130PS at 4000rpm; 320Nm torque at 1750rpm.

 

1.2 DIG-T 6-speed manual: 0-62mph 10.9 seconds; top speed 115mph. Combined consumption 50.4mpg, CO2 129g/km (VED Band D)

 

1.5 dCi 6-speed manual: 0-62mph 11.9 seconds; top speed 113mph. Combined consumption 74.3mpg, CO2 99g/km (VED Band A)

 

1.6 dCi 6-speed manual: 0-62mph 9.9 seconds; top speed 118mph. Combined consumption 64.2mpg, CO2 115g/km (VED Band C)

 

1.6 dCi CVT automatic: 0-62mph 11.1 seconds; top speed 114mph. Combined consumption 61.4mpg, CO2 119g/km (VED Band C)

 

1.6 dCi 4WD 6-speed manual: 0-62mph 10.5 seconds; top speed 118mph. Combined consumption 57.6mpg, CO2 129g/km (VED Band D)

 

http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/road-tests/nissan/nissan-qashqai-2014-road-test/?

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