Fugazi Posted June 1, 2009 Share Posted June 1, 2009 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/8076848.stm Sounds grim. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiquidAK Posted June 1, 2009 Share Posted June 1, 2009 In before Lost reference. In all seriousness, quite tragic. With any luck there will be some survivors, but how long can people last in the sea, assuming they even survived the original crash. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fugazi Posted June 1, 2009 Share Posted June 1, 2009 In before Lost reference. In all seriousness, quite tragic. With any luck there will be some survivors, but how long can people last in the sea, assuming they even survived the original crash. Glad that's out of the way. Doesn't look good for there being many survivors. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Nguyen Van Falk Posted June 1, 2009 Share Posted June 1, 2009 Oh Jacob you scoundrel, what will you get up to next? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasper Posted June 1, 2009 Share Posted June 1, 2009 It's a bit of a mystery from what I've read. A lightning strike shouldn't do anything like that... And even when they lose electricity they still have a lot of manual systems for flying the plane. Some people reckon the most likely (still extremely far fetched) thing that could have happened is lighting & turbulance causing the hull to break very quickly. Would explain why they didn't manage to send a radio message. How the hell would that happen though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted June 1, 2009 Share Posted June 1, 2009 It's a bit of a mystery from what I've read. A lightning strike shouldn't do anything like that... And even when they lose electricity they still have a lot of manual systems for flying the plane. Some people reckon the most likely (still extremely far fetched) thing that could have happened is lighting & turbulance causing the hull to break very quickly. Would explain why they didn't manage to send a radio message. How the hell would that happen though any finns on board ?.......the media line is sickeningly put in this country that there are 5 british on board. as if it is more of a disaster because of it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasper Posted June 1, 2009 Share Posted June 1, 2009 None. People from all the countries surrounding us but zero from Finland Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedro111 Posted June 1, 2009 Share Posted June 1, 2009 It's a bit of a mystery from what I've read. A lightning strike shouldn't do anything like that... And even when they lose electricity they still have a lot of manual systems for flying the plane. Some people reckon the most likely (still extremely far fetched) thing that could have happened is lighting & turbulance causing the hull to break very quickly. Would explain why they didn't manage to send a radio message. How the hell would that happen though any finns on board ?.......the media line is sickeningly put in this country that there are 5 british on board. as if it is more of a disaster because of it. Well, it is the British media reporting to the British people so you would expect that. Same in every country I would imagine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted June 1, 2009 Share Posted June 1, 2009 It's a bit of a mystery from what I've read. A lightning strike shouldn't do anything like that... And even when they lose electricity they still have a lot of manual systems for flying the plane. Some people reckon the most likely (still extremely far fetched) thing that could have happened is lighting & turbulance causing the hull to break very quickly. Would explain why they didn't manage to send a radio message. How the hell would that happen though any finns on board ?.......the media line is sickeningly put in this country that there are 5 british on board. as if it is more of a disaster because of it. Well, it is the British media reporting to the British people so you would expect that. Same in every country I would imagine. non the less sickening for it. echoes of the old spitting image skit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearer9 Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 It's a bit of a mystery from what I've read. A lightning strike shouldn't do anything like that... And even when they lose electricity they still have a lot of manual systems for flying the plane. Some people reckon the most likely (still extremely far fetched) thing that could have happened is lighting & turbulance causing the hull to break very quickly. Would explain why they didn't manage to send a radio message. How the hell would that happen though any finns on board ?.......the media line is sickeningly put in this country that there are 5 british on board. as if it is more of a disaster because of it. Well, it is the British media reporting to the British people so you would expect that. Same in every country I would imagine. non the less sickening for it. echoes of the old spitting image skit Keeps getting reported here as 2 Americans on board. I get the fact that in a situation like this, nationality doesn't matter, each one of those people on board on the plane had human dignity and rights and deserve to be respected as a human. But I'm not really offended by that kind of reporting. It's an issue that Americans (or Britons, French, etc) will have to deal with, the respective state departments and national leaders will also likely have to deal with it, plus there are people that know or are related to those killed within the respective country. I suppose in some way, I can understand someone else being slightly offended by that type of reporting, even though I'm not. But sickened? Come off it. You're parsing this way too much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob W Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 The important thing is to find out what happened FFS - this one is strange (or rather untypical) Of course modern jets are all run on electronics and if there was a major breakdown god knows what bits might start misbehaving - at 35,000 ft, in the dark, off W Africa............... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Micktoon Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 The important thing is to find out what happened FFS - this one is strange (or rather untypical) Of course modern jets are all run on electronics and if there was a major breakdown god knows what bits might start misbehaving - at 35,000 ft, in the dark, off W Africa............... Agree, never liked flying but thanks to pills and alcohol I get through my all to frequent flights. However this scenario is what I fear most, take off and landing has never put the shits up me, but dropping out the sky is the cause of my pills and alcohol. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Parka Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 Pretty much fucked even if they survived the crash. Shocking really, doesn't happen much thats for sure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest toonlass Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 How can you lose a Jumbo? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 How can you lose a Jumbo? ? Land it in the Atlantic Ocean? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northerngimp Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 Jets are pretty stable its only when the engines stop you are in trouble. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveItIfWeBeatU Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 I guess it's just denial but they were interviewing some British relatives of passengers on the news last night. The family said "I guess no news is good news". Not when it comes to a plane going missing it isn't. If a plane is 9 hours late after leaving it's safe to assume they aren't going to turn up. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8077437.stm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasper Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 Even if you lose all power it still doesnt come crashing down. In decent conditions this type of plane has a glide ratio of 12:1. So when the plane drops 100m it glides 1200m. So dropping from about 10km it would still glide 120km. In worse conditions it would be less ofcourse. They also have a lot of back up systems for power. Atleast one air turbine that generates power from the air speed and gives power to the most important systems, including the radio. So my guess is the hull has quickly broken somehow. Either because of the weather and maybe some manufacturing failure or a bomb. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LooneyToonArmy Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 Plane searchers spot ocean debris http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8079122.stm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 I guess it's just denial but they were interviewing some British relatives of passengers on the news last night. The family said "I guess no news is good news". Not when it comes to a plane going missing it isn't. If a plane is 9 hours late after leaving it's safe to assume they aren't going to turn up. Saw a relative of the guy from up here who's missing saying when she rings his phone and it goes to voicemail and "Surely if the phone was at the bottom of the sea then it wouldn't work, so maybe they're all right somewhere." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 I guess it's just denial but they were interviewing some British relatives of passengers on the news last night. The family said "I guess no news is good news". Not when it comes to a plane going missing it isn't. If a plane is 9 hours late after leaving it's safe to assume they aren't going to turn up. Saw a relative of the guy from up here who's missing saying when she rings his phone and it goes to voicemail and "Surely if the phone was at the bottom of the sea then it wouldn't work, so maybe they're all right somewhere." I know I shouldn't but . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 I guess it's just denial but they were interviewing some British relatives of passengers on the news last night. The family said "I guess no news is good news". Not when it comes to a plane going missing it isn't. If a plane is 9 hours late after leaving it's safe to assume they aren't going to turn up. Saw a relative of the guy from up here who's missing saying when she rings his phone and it goes to voicemail and "Surely if the phone was at the bottom of the sea then it wouldn't work, so maybe they're all right somewhere." No, the voicemail is recorded on the networks recorder I think, meaning that it will do that, hence the reason how you can leave a message if the phone is turned off. Also, I think we can rule out a bomb, if their was one then I'm sure some terroists would of said it was them by now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crumpy Gunt Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 Even if you lose all power it still doesnt come crashing down. In decent conditions this type of plane has a glide ratio of 12:1. So when the plane drops 100m it glides 1200m. So dropping from about 10km it would still glide 120km. In worse conditions it would be less ofcourse. They also have a lot of back up systems for power. Atleast one air turbine that generates power from the air speed and gives power to the most important systems, including the radio. So my guess is the hull has quickly broken somehow. Either because of the weather and maybe some manufacturing failure or a bomb. I think the fucker crashed me mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 I guess it's just denial but they were interviewing some British relatives of passengers on the news last night. The family said "I guess no news is good news". Not when it comes to a plane going missing it isn't. If a plane is 9 hours late after leaving it's safe to assume they aren't going to turn up. Saw a relative of the guy from up here who's missing saying when she rings his phone and it goes to voicemail and "Surely if the phone was at the bottom of the sea then it wouldn't work, so maybe they're all right somewhere." No, the voicemail is recorded on the networks recorder I think, meaning that it will do that, hence the reason how you can leave a message if the phone is turned off. Also, I think we can rule out a bomb, if their was one then I'm sure some terroists would of said it was them by now. :lol: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jill Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 The important thing is to find out what happened FFS - this one is strange (or rather untypical) Of course modern jets are all run on electronics and if there was a major breakdown god knows what bits might start misbehaving - at 35,000 ft, in the dark, off W Africa............... Agree, never liked flying but thanks to pills and alcohol I get through my all to frequent flights. However this scenario is what I fear most, take off and landing has never put the shits up me, but dropping out the sky is the cause of my pills and alcohol. Agree with this to some extent - I hate take off and landing as well, but the idea of just falling from the sky does scare the shit out of me. I also have to have valium & alcohol to fly, and I don't think I could ever do long haul as the idea of sitting waiting for something terrible to happen for hours does not appeal. Strangely, Air Crash Investigation is one of my favourite shows. If anything, it's drilled it into my mind that it's always a chain of events which causes disasters. All that said, awful, awful tragedy. They're gonners, but I dare say if it was one of my relatives, I'd be clinging onto a tiny piece of hope. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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