Gordon Brown, leadership challenge.

[cp40]

so the prime minister we have who got the job without a public vote, and much cloak and dagger back room stuff, is looking like the target of a leadership challenge. Had the chance to call an election a couple of years ago, when ahead in the polls but hesitated.

 

Now apparently its the worse kept secret in parliament, that he will suffer a death by a thousand cuts...in other words attacked from all directions from the back benchers, who see a change in leadership as thier only hope now following the scandal of expenses, and the resignation of ministers before he had the balls to sack them.

 

I rekon if they do challenge him , he should fuck them off and call an ellection, that would sort the fuckers out.

 

The government is a shambles.

[Dokko]

It's the only way for Labour to hold on to power.

 

 

[Shearer9]

Tories saved themselves in the early 90s when they ousted a waning Thatcher, but Labour had better get on it pretty quick, the news cycle just keeps coming up with terrible stories for their government.  They need to change the message.

[cp40]

Tories saved themselves in the early 90s when they ousted a waning Thatcher, but Labour had better get on it pretty quick, the news cycle just keeps coming up with terrible stories for their government.  They need to change the message.

 

who the fuck would replace him, that has any credibility left?

 

Mandelson anyone?

[ikri]

There aren't exactly too many Labour MPs left who haven't been touched in some way by the general malaise that's afflicting the party.

 

Alan Johnson & David Miliband?  If either one walked down the street 95% of the people would have no idea who they were, their names are recognisable from the news but that's it.  I doubt too many people could tell you what their political ideals were.

 

If Labour end up with anyone of their ilk they'll disappear at the next election, they'll probably have another leadership election inside 18 months.

 

They'll probably end up with an old "experienced" politician like Jack Straw or someone who hasn't been tainted too badly by the current leadership like Hilary Benn.

[QBG]

They'll get battered in the MEP elections tomorrow and that will be all she wrote for Brown.

[cp40]

Its  hilarious tbh, first time ive been interested in politics since about 1997.

[Fenham Mag]

I can see Tony Blair coming back .

[Mowen]

There aren't exactly too many Labour MPs left who haven't been touched in some way by the general malaise that's afflicting the party.

 

Alan Johnson & David Miliband?  If either one walked down the street 95% of the people would have no idea who they were, their names are recognisable from the news but that's it.  I doubt too many people could tell you what their political ideals were.

 

If Labour end up with anyone of their ilk they'll disappear at the next election, they'll probably have another leadership election inside 18 months.

 

They'll probably end up with an old "experienced" politician like Jack Straw or someone who hasn't been tainted too badly by the current leadership like Hilary Benn.

 

Every fucker would recognise Johnson tbf.

 

http://a868.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/00538/76/88/538678867_l.jpg

[Pilko]

There aren't exactly too many Labour MPs left who haven't been touched in some way by the general malaise that's afflicting the party.

 

Alan Johnson & David Miliband?  If either one walked down the street 95% of the people would have no idea who they were, their names are recognisable from the news but that's it.  I doubt too many people could tell you what their political ideals were.

 

If Labour end up with anyone of their ilk they'll disappear at the next election, they'll probably have another leadership election inside 18 months.

 

They'll probably end up with an old "experienced" politician like Jack Straw or someone who hasn't been tainted too badly by the current leadership like Hilary Benn.

 

Every fucker would recognise Johnson tbf.

 

http://a868.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/00538/76/88/538678867_l.jpg

 

Johnson would sort out the MP expenses scandal in a single night for Brown:

 

"Just you, me, some chinese food and a couple of fuck off spreadsheets."

[GM]

I read this thread's title as "Gordon Brown, leadership-challenged"...which would be quite apt as he's a fucking diabolical "leader"...a worse "leader" than Kim Jong Il, Saddam Hussein, Robert Mugabe and Pol Pot combined.

[Dokko]

An email is circulating among Labour MPs encouraging Gordon Brown to step down as Prime Minister.

 

Sky News has obtained a copy of the email which says:

 

Dear Gordon,

 

Over the last 12 years in government, and before, you have made an enormous contribution to this country and to the Labour Party, and this is widely acknowledged.

 

However we are writing now because we believe that in the current political situation, you can best serve the Labour Party and the country by stepping down as party leader and prime minister.

 

And so allowing the party to find a new leader to take us into the next general election.

 

Yours,

 

XXXX

 

It then asks MPs to sign the letter and send it to a particular email address. It will only be "published" once 50 MPs have signed it.

 

The email was revealed on the day that Communities Secretary Hazel Blears said she was resigning from the Cabinet.

 

Sky's chief political correspondent Jon Craig said: "This is circulating amongst Labour MPs and it shows that the talk of a plot is real.

 

"My understanding is that the plan is to have this campaign ready to go after the results of the local council elections on Friday or possibly on Monday after the results of the European elections.

 

"It is all being done anonymously at the moment.

 

"At some stage, people will have to come out of the wood and identify themselves otherwise no one will take it seriously."

 

[GM]

Political insiders reckon he'll be gone in days.

 

 

[Keefaz]

Why's it so badly fucking punctuated? And written, in fact.

[GM]

Why's it so badly fucking punctuated?

 

I reckon Dave's had some sort of relapse and is editing random posts into poor English.

[Decky]

Maybe Blair should have stayed after all....

[cp40]

Why's it so badly fucking punctuated? And written, in fact.

 

 

cos they cant claim expenses for writing classes?

[Shearer9]

Maybe Blair should have stayed after all....

Surely that's the only way Labour would be able to win the election next year. 

[ikri]

Maybe Blair should have stayed after all....

 

Blair was a hundred times more competent and charismatic than Brown but he was still pretty damaged goods.

 

But he was pretty reviled by a huge number of people for the Iraq war & dodgy intelligence sagas, if he'd stayed as PM he'd not have fucked up quite as badly as Brown, but people would be talking of Blair being the election liability who should step down in place of Brown.

 

The entire party is fucked and they're only just starting to realise quite how badly the next election is going to hurt them.  By getting rid of Brown they can at least claim to be changing and hope that they'll get a bit of a bounce in the opinion polls, they'd have to call a general election pretty quickly though or they'd start haemorrhaging support again since they've run out of ideas that don't involve massive databases.

[Liam Liam Liam O]

There aren't exactly too many Labour MPs left who haven't been touched in some way by the general malaise that's afflicting the party.

 

Alan Johnson & David Miliband?  If either one walked down the street 95% of the people would have no idea who they were, their names are recognisable from the news but that's it.  I doubt too many people could tell you what their political ideals were.

 

If Labour end up with anyone of their ilk they'll disappear at the next election, they'll probably have another leadership election inside 18 months.

 

They'll probably end up with an old "experienced" politician like Jack Straw or someone who hasn't been tainted too badly by the current leadership like Hilary Benn.

 

I was saying the exact same thing today at work about Nick Clegg. 

 

I reckon 95% of people would probably recognise Nick Griffin though.

[ikri]

There aren't exactly too many Labour MPs left who haven't been touched in some way by the general malaise that's afflicting the party.

 

Alan Johnson & David Miliband?  If either one walked down the street 95% of the people would have no idea who they were, their names are recognisable from the news but that's it.  I doubt too many people could tell you what their political ideals were.

 

If Labour end up with anyone of their ilk they'll disappear at the next election, they'll probably have another leadership election inside 18 months.

 

They'll probably end up with an old "experienced" politician like Jack Straw or someone who hasn't been tainted too badly by the current leadership like Hilary Benn.

 

I was saying the exact same thing today at work about Nick Clegg. 

 

I reckon 95% of people would probably recognise Nick Griffin though.

 

Hopefully only because there'd be a crowd of people following down the street hurling rotten fruit at him.

 

Personally, I'd not recognise him if he walked through my living room (I might be a little concerned about why there's a fascist wandering my house though).

[The Prophet]

Ironically today was probably his best performance at PMQs, not that it makes a difference.

[Parky]

What's the beef with Brown anyway?

[Fenham Mag]

What's the beef with Brown anyway?

 

It doesn't really go with Burgers

[ikri]

What's the beef with Brown anyway?

 

He's a deeply uncharismatic leader during the worst economic period since the 1930's, surrounded by a load of self-serving unimaginative ministers more interested in looking busy than passing constructive legislation.  Plus, whilst he was chancellor he was warned about the coming of the current financial crisis on numerous occasions but was more interested in being the friend of business & finance than he was in doing anything to prevent the collapse (couldn't let the Tories accuse him of being a socialist by actually regulating the banks, etc.)