Mowen Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 Might be bollocks... seems true though. All mobile numbers to be put in one directory, you need to remove yours at the website in the title (currently down) unless you fancy a little cold calling. Hadn't seen this anywhere else. http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/industry_sectors/telecoms/article6459097.ece The first directory service that claims to be able to find any British mobile phone number is expected to cause a row over privacy when it begins operation next week. For a £1 charge, 118800.co.uk will be able to connect customers of its service to any of Britain’s 42 million mobile phones, it says. The directory, which goes live on June 18 and already contains “millions” of mobile numbers and their users, is the first of its kind in the UK. It will function along the lines of an old-fashioned telephone operator: users will call the service and ask to be connected to the mobile phone of a person. The service calls that mobile phone and asks for permission to connect the call. The service has been developed using data bought from market research businesses. People not wishing to be included on the list must inform the directory by text or phone that they wish to opt out. They will be charged their standard network rate and face a wait of four weeks before their number is excluded. Connectivity, the company behind the service, insisted yesterday that “users’ privacy is paramount”. It stressed that none of the numbers or personal details on its directory would ever be divulged and callers will be connected to the number they request only if the call receiver agrees. It said it had worked closely with consumer bodies such as the Office of the Information Commissioner (ICO) during the development of the service. The ICO confirmed that it had held discussions with the group but warned the service would need to implement its suggestions and obtain consent from the individuals involved to comply with the Data Protection Act. However, privacy groups said that it would provoke serious anger from people concerned about having their private lives invaded. Simon Davies, of Privacy International, who worked on the project as a paid consultant during its early phase, said: “There are fundamental privacy issues. The company needs to be far more specific about where it acquired the numbers on its directory and from what sources.” While people on the directory must have, at some stage, agreed to have their number circulated, many would have unwittingly done so, he said, by failing to tick a box on a market research form, for example. Many would be alarmed to discover that they now featured on a national mobile phone database. “The dynamics of disclosure with mobile phones is radically different from landlines,” he added. “People tend to enjoy selective disclosure with their mobile phones.” There is also a danger that marketing companies and businesses could abuse the service to get hold of potential customers, providing a further route of annoying spam. Connectivity said that its data “generally comes from companies who collect mobile telephone numbers from customers in the course of doing business and have been given permission by customers to share those numbers.” Although mobile phone operators keep personal details of contract customers, their information is sullied because the person registered with the phone might not be the user. Connectivity, whose service is being tested online before its launch as both an internet and phone service, initially planned to seek the permission of all mobile phone users on its list by contacting them. It then decided it was more “relevant” for people to choose to opt in or out when someone first tried to get hold of them. Far from being angry, the company believes that many people will want to participate in a service. It wants mobile phone users to sign up by detailing their number and home and workplace details on its website. If the requested user fails to answer, the service will leave a message with the contact details of the person seeking to speak to them. Shona Forster, Connectivity’s marketing director, said: “The person whose number it is is always in control. Their privacy is of paramount importance to us.” Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 Was in the news a few weeks back. Pretty fucking stupid IYAM. Edit - article's from 9th June. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowen Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 Was in the news a few weeks back. Pretty fucking stupid IYAM. Got an email about it on friday. Looks legit, staggering that it exists. Rumour has it the reason the site's down is more to do with the volumes who want to remove their numbers rather than because it needs any maintenance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jill Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 Heard about it a while ago, got myself removed, though not entirely convinced by the whole "we don't pass your number on.. honest.." .. we shall see. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest toonlass Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 Went on a few weeks ago and removed myself from it. Shouldn't be allowed tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 Was in the news a few weeks back. Pretty fucking stupid IYAM. Got an email about it on friday. Looks legit, staggering that it exists. Rumour has it the reason the site's down is more to do with the volumes who want to remove their numbers rather than because it needs any maintenance. Oh it's definitely legit, there was a spokeswoman on Five Live defending it. It's blatant abuse of privacy and marketing rules. You shouldn't have to fucking opt out of this kind of thing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowen Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 Was in the news a few weeks back. Pretty fucking stupid IYAM. Got an email about it on friday. Looks legit, staggering that it exists. Rumour has it the reason the site's down is more to do with the volumes who want to remove their numbers rather than because it needs any maintenance. Oh it's definitely legit, there was a spokeswoman on Five Live defending it. It's blatant abuse of privacy and marketing rules. You shouldn't have to fucking opt out of this kind of thing. Thought it might be viral advertising at first Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 They can't give out your number, and when BBC News tried it out none of the 10 people they tried to contact through the service were on their database. If you don't trust them then it's probably better not to give them your number on their 'remove me' page when they probably don't have it in the first place. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jill Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 If you don't trust them then it's probably better not to give them your number on their 'remove me' page when they probably don't have it in the first place. This only crossed my mind after I'd put my number in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 If you don't trust them then it's probably better not to give them your number on their 'remove me' page when they probably don't have it in the first place. This only crossed my mind after I'd put my number in. I've often thought that after applying to have my email address removed from spam lists. They know my email address is valid and that I read them now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GM Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 On the upside however, I now have mobile numbers for Kylie Minogue, Uri Geller, Richard Branson, Mike Ashley and Yehudi Menuhin. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 Stuff like this is new in the UK? We've had this as long as I can remember, free as well, tons of these sites, phone and text services to get someones number. Pretty useful when you can't remember someones number. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keefaz Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 Stuff like this is new in the UK? We've had this as long as I can remember, free as well, tons of these sites, phone and text services to get someones number. Pretty useful when you can't remember someones number. And especially handy for me and my fellow stalkers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
indi Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 Unfortunately it'll be an automated message you'll get if someone wants to call you, but imagine the abuse they'd take if it was a real person, that'd have to be one of the shitest jobs ever. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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