Dokko Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 http://i.thisislondon.co.uk/i/pix/2009/07/gary-reinbach-415x275.jpg A 22-year-old alcoholic has died after being refused a life-saving liver transplant because he was too ill to leave hospital and prove he could stay sober. http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-News/Alcoholic-22-Dies-After-Being-Refused-Life-Saving-Liver-Transplant/Article/200907315342299?lpos=UK_News_Carousel_Region_0&lid=ARTICLE_15342299_Alcoholic%2C_22%2C_Dies_After_Being_Refused_Life-Saving_Liver_Transplant Image should be put in a drink aware campaign, fuking hell that's haunting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiquidAK Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 He looks like he should be on the Simpsons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 He looks like he should be on the Simpsons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 No i wont, it's too good. vodka red bull>> life The red bull is worse for you than the Vodka. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haz Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 The red Bull wont fuck your liver up. Vodka will. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 The red Bull wont fuck your liver up. Vodka will. Na just give you blood clots are heart disease. Vodka will take care of the liver. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Snrub Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 Wtf.. If he was too ill to leave the hospital you'd think he could have got the benefit of the doubt and they would actually save his life. That's shocking. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest n4e Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 Shame. Always thougth Tooj was a good poster aswell. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haz Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 22 and liver beyond recovery. Why should someone who needs the liver more go back in the queue until he stopped drinking? If he couldnt stop the drinking they would not transplant. Just like they wont do vascular surgery on you while you continue to smoke. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Libertine Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 slightly off topic but its amazing how cannabis is still illegal and very frowned upon but has never killed anyone and alcohol and tobacco are legal and encouraged (to a point) despite killing millions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haz Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 It' still early doors on the Cannabis although there is growing evidence it kills brain cells. No point in making alchohol and tobacco ilegal because we have seen what happens in prohibition. Best way, in the case of tobacco is to continue putting the squeeze on in terms of it being socially unacceptable and illegal to smoke in more and more areas. Then, in the case of alcohol, educate more and more but this aint going to be easy since the bottom line is alcohol makes folks feel good. Tobacco merely fuels a craving. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatwax Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 There's no doubt that cannabis has an affect on the brain, just like Haz says though it's still early days onto the extent of potential damage. I drank fairly often when I was at uni and I'm sure many on here did/do/will.. but I'm sure I didn't drink nearly enough to get anywhere near needing a liver transplant. How much do you need to drink to get an addiction to this stuff? I just can't get my head around what it'd take.. I'm guess it's also specific on the personality on the person getting addicted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haz Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 It isnt about quantity that gets you addicted; it's how your constitution comes to rely on it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crumpy Gunt Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 http://i.thisislondon.co.uk/i/pix/2009/07/gary-reinbach-415x275.jpg A 22-year-old alcoholic has died after being refused a life-saving liver transplant because he was too ill to leave hospital and prove he could stay sober. http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-News/Alcoholic-22-Dies-After-Being-Refused-Life-Saving-Liver-Transplant/Article/200907315342299?lpos=UK_News_Carousel_Region_0&lid=ARTICLE_15342299_Alcoholic%2C_22%2C_Dies_After_Being_Refused_Life-Saving_Liver_Transplant Image should be put in a drink aware campaign, fuking hell that's haunting. My best pal died at 27 of similar. He was also refused a transplant although at the time I doubt they were capable of doing the op without him bleeding to death. Something to do with the damaged liver not being able to produce enough of what it needs to make the blood clot. I'm sure someone with more medical knowledge will confirm this as the case. Wasn't a nice way to watch someone go but to his credit my mate blamed no one but himself. Perhaps now it brings home what a complete and utter cunt George Best actually was. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 It' still early doors on the Cannabis although there is growing evidence it kills brain cells. No point in making alchohol and tobacco ilegal because we have seen what happens in prohibition. Best way, in the case of tobacco is to continue putting the squeeze on in terms of it being socially unacceptable and illegal to smoke in more and more areas. Then, in the case of alcohol, educate more and more but this aint going to be easy since the bottom line is alcohol makes folks feel good. Tobacco merely fuels a craving. Source please. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 I knew loads of people in my teens who took cannabis and most of them ended up going to harder drugs. It is also no surprise that so far they have amounted to fuck all, still pissing about round the old estate. I know from personal experience that for some people, possibly most people, it is a downward spiral onto other drugs that will do harm. Best thing to do really is stay clear from what is illegal and get your buzz from sociably acceptable things like alcohol. No doubt that will piss a few smokers off on here, but I can only say what I seen. Obviously not everyone ends up fucked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stephen927 Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 Must have been a hardcore drinker from a pretty young age to have a fucked liver at 22. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest toonlass Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 They should show this lad's picture to teenage school kids. Infact his family should stop blaming the NHS for not doing a liver transplant and when they are strong enough should go round schools, with this lad's photo and tell the teenagers what happened to him because he was a binge drinker. Might frighten some of them into stopping. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 Strange though it may sound I think everybody who needs help should get it. Not sure of the inns and outs of liver transplants but it is important always to try and save a human life. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest toonlass Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 Strange though it may sound I think everybody who needs help should get it. Not sure of the inns and outs of liver transplants but it is important always to try and save a human life. And the money should come from? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 Strange though it may sound I think everybody who needs help should get it. Not sure of the inns and outs of liver transplants but it is important always to try and save a human life. And the money should come from? Oh your pocket Blefuscu, where else?! Lad's made mistakes, time to help him out and not worry about the fucking money for a change. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keefaz Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 There's a shortage of donor organs: sadly, someone's going to have to miss out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest toonlass Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 Strange though it may sound I think everybody who needs help should get it. Not sure of the inns and outs of liver transplants but it is important always to try and save a human life. And the money should come from? Oh your pocket Blefuscu, where else?! Lad's made mistakes, time to help him out and not worry about the fucking money for a change. There are many people with illnesses not caused by their own actions who are denied treatment. For example, did you know that people with leukemia over the age of 55 are not routinely given a bone marrow transplant? Is that fair? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 Strange though it may sound I think everybody who needs help should get it. Not sure of the inns and outs of liver transplants but it is important always to try and save a human life. And the money should come from? Oh your pocket Blefuscu, where else?! Lad's made mistakes, time to help him out and not worry about the fucking money for a change. There are many people with illnesses not caused by their own actions who are denied treatment. For example, did you know that people with leukemia over the age of 55 are not routinely given a bone marrow transplant? Is that fair? Yeah but the point you made was about money, therefore the point I was making was that if it's about money then pay it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest toonlass Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 Strange though it may sound I think everybody who needs help should get it. Not sure of the inns and outs of liver transplants but it is important always to try and save a human life. And the money should come from? Oh your pocket Blefuscu, where else?! Lad's made mistakes, time to help him out and not worry about the fucking money for a change. There are many people with illnesses not caused by their own actions who are denied treatment. For example, did you know that people with leukemia over the age of 55 are not routinely given a bone marrow transplant? Is that fair? Yeah but the point you made was about money, therefore the point I was making was that if it's about money then pay it. So what would you get rid of to pay for the Liver transplant? Because there is only a finite amount of money that the NHS has, and only a finite amount of organs for transplant. What services would you be willing to get rid of to pay for every Liver transplant required? Where would you get the Livers from? How would you decide who needed an organ more? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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